I asked Chatgpt to DX my kid

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Anonymous wrote:And the results were quite interesting!

I did this because of the Sparks study on the 4 autism types. I couldn't tell where my son would land in these.


So I put in all his test results and symptoms , and it came up... not autism.

Which we have always thought, but the school system has always disagreed.



The Sparks study is on kids diagnosed through a medical model. The educational diagnosis of autism is completely separate. It has different criteria.


But why should it be different? That sends a lot of people down the wrong path.


I didn’t say it should or shouldn’t be different. I said it is different. The eligibility categories under IDEA are defined by federal and state law. Because there are only a handful of categories they are written to be broad enough that children who need help receive it, and therefore do not align exactly with medical diagnoses.


The truth is there ARE plenty of other designations besides ASD in the IDEA but autism has become the go to.



There are 12 other categories, or 13 if you include developmental delay. There are over 300 diagnoses in the DSM alone, plus of course, students can qualify for conditions that aren't in the DSM.

Other IDEA categories also cover broad groups of children. I've had two kids qualified under OHI. One was ventilator dependent, and profoundly physically disabled. The other has ADHD.

All the categories are broad. The Autism category under IDEA is also broader than the DSM category.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:Please invest in your kid by paying for a full
Neuro psych test


We have our answers. No reason to throw 5 grand away.




Then why are you using ChatGPT to question those answers?
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:You put in his ADOS result and Chat GPT said he didn’t have autism?


ADOS is 1 test in many the battery of tests.. It is not definitive.



Ok … did you put it into ChatGPT? Exactly what did you enter into the prompt? What did the actual medical professionals give as a diagnosis?

The idea that you seem to genuinely believe that a ChatGPT “diagnosis” has value just boggles the mind.
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Anonymous wrote:You put in his ADOS result and Chat GPT said he didn’t have autism?


ADOS is 1 test in many the battery of tests.. It is not definitive.



Ok … did you put it into ChatGPT? Exactly what did you enter into the prompt? What did the actual medical professionals give as a diagnosis?

The idea that you seem to genuinely believe that a ChatGPT “diagnosis” has value just boggles the mind.


Oh get over yourself. It is just an experiment. I was interested in how my kid, who the school system was always desperate to label as autistic, would fit into the four categories of the Sparks study.

And the answer was, given his test results, was that he really didn't.

And yes I included the autism assessment results as well... where he didn't test as ASD.

My son still has disabilities that are serious enough to affect his daily functioning. But labeling it autism never aided him or moved him forward. It was just a convenient short cut.

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Anonymous wrote:You put in his ADOS result and Chat GPT said he didn’t have autism?


ADOS is 1 test in many the battery of tests.. It is not definitive.



Ok … did you put it into ChatGPT? Exactly what did you enter into the prompt? What did the actual medical professionals give as a diagnosis?

The idea that you seem to genuinely believe that a ChatGPT “diagnosis” has value just boggles the mind.


Oh get over yourself. It is just an experiment. I was interested in how my kid, who the school system was always desperate to label as autistic, would fit into the four categories of the Sparks study.

And the answer was, given his test results, was that he really didn't.

And yes I included the autism assessment results as well... where he didn't test as ASD.

My son still has disabilities that are serious enough to affect his daily functioning. But labeling it autism never aided him or moved him forward. It was just a convenient short cut.



Denial ain’t just a river in Egypt.
Anonymous
As a mom with a late diagnosed teen, you sound like you still need to do some work on yourself.

You wasted time trying to “prove the school wrong” on AI, but don’t want to get a neuropsych. You are on hung up a label, which really doesn’t matter. Your kid has special needs. He presents as autistic and you have a problem with it. Get over it.

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Anonymous wrote:As a mom with a late diagnosed teen, you sound like you still need to do some work on yourself.

You wasted time trying to “prove the school wrong” on AI, but don’t want to get a neuropsych. You are on hung up a label, which really doesn’t matter. Your kid has special needs. He presents as autistic and you have a problem with it. Get over it.



+1,000,000
Anonymous
This doesn’t surprise me. The schools just use the autism spectrum as a big catch bucket. They need a label to give your DC an IEP, so they can use the overly broad criteria to achieve this. This why some are labeled ASD when very young and then outgrow the diagnosis. There’s a lot of mis-diagnosing going on, but if it gets your DC specialized support that can be a good thing.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:You put in his ADOS result and Chat GPT said he didn’t have autism?


ADOS is 1 test in many the battery of tests.. It is not definitive.



Ok … did you put it into ChatGPT? Exactly what did you enter into the prompt? What did the actual medical professionals give as a diagnosis?

The idea that you seem to genuinely believe that a ChatGPT “diagnosis” has value just boggles the mind.


Oh get over yourself. It is just an experiment. I was interested in how my kid, who the school system was always desperate to label as autistic, would fit into the four categories of the Sparks study.

And the answer was, given his test results, was that he really didn't.

And yes I included the autism assessment results as well... where he didn't test as ASD.

My son still has disabilities that are serious enough to affect his daily functioning. But labeling it autism never aided him or moved him forward. It was just a convenient short cut.



What diagnosis did you get from an actual professional? I’m not understanding why you are so hostile to the school using a label that allows your kid to get services.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:As a mom with a late diagnosed teen, you sound like you still need to do some work on yourself.

You wasted time trying to “prove the school wrong” on AI, but don’t want to get a neuropsych. You are on hung up a label, which really doesn’t matter. Your kid has special needs. He presents as autistic and you have a problem with it. Get over it.



The label DID matter. He didn't make progress in any of the ASD programs they tried over the years.

He made progress when they moved him to a smaller class with less language load but still following the general curriculum.

Even the school had to admit it.

Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:You put in his ADOS result and Chat GPT said he didn’t have autism?


ADOS is 1 test in many the battery of tests.. It is not definitive.



Ok … did you put it into ChatGPT? Exactly what did you enter into the prompt? What did the actual medical professionals give as a diagnosis?

The idea that you seem to genuinely believe that a ChatGPT “diagnosis” has value just boggles the mind.


Oh get over yourself. It is just an experiment. I was interested in how my kid, who the school system was always desperate to label as autistic, would fit into the four categories of the Sparks study.

And the answer was, given his test results, was that he really didn't.

And yes I included the autism assessment results as well... where he didn't test as ASD.

My son still has disabilities that are serious enough to affect his daily functioning. But labeling it autism never aided him or moved him forward. It was just a convenient short cut.



What diagnosis did you get from an actual professional? I’m not understanding why you are so hostile to the school using a label that allows your kid to get services.


Severe receptive language disorder with a mild intellectual disorder. But a normal nonverbal IQ. That came from a PhD psychologist specializing in autism who tested him in middle school and then again high school.

All the other earlier testing had shown no autism as well and low receptive language, but no one really understood how to help him. But they had a lot of autism programs so they shoved him in there.

The PhD said he had only encountered one student who tested like our son in his 40 year career.

Because of the early rush to the ASD label, they were trying to fix what wasn't wrong. Everything stemmed from the poor receptive language.













Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:You put in his ADOS result and Chat GPT said he didn’t have autism?


ADOS is 1 test in many the battery of tests.. It is not definitive.



Ok … did you put it into ChatGPT? Exactly what did you enter into the prompt? What did the actual medical professionals give as a diagnosis?

The idea that you seem to genuinely believe that a ChatGPT “diagnosis” has value just boggles the mind.


Oh get over yourself. It is just an experiment. I was interested in how my kid, who the school system was always desperate to label as autistic, would fit into the four categories of the Sparks study.

And the answer was, given his test results, was that he really didn't.

And yes I included the autism assessment results as well... where he didn't test as ASD.

My son still has disabilities that are serious enough to affect his daily functioning. But labeling it autism never aided him or moved him forward. It was just a convenient short cut.



What diagnosis did you get from an actual professional? I’m not understanding why you are so hostile to the school using a label that allows your kid to get services.


Severe receptive language disorder with a mild intellectual disorder. But a normal nonverbal IQ. That came from a PhD psychologist specializing in autism who tested him in middle school and then again high school.

All the other earlier testing had shown no autism as well and low receptive language, but no one really understood how to help him. But they had a lot of autism programs so they shoved him in there.

The PhD said he had only encountered one student who tested like our son in his 40 year career.

Because of the early rush to the ASD label, they were trying to fix what wasn't wrong. Everything stemmed from the poor receptive language.















Cool story bro.
Anonymous
My husband felt a sting in his chest but chatgpt told me for free that it was heartburn from his gross lunch.
Anyway, funeral is in Tuesday.
Anonymous
Autism is passe. There are more fashionable diagnoses now. IYKYK.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:Confirmation bias. It only knows about your kid what you are feeding it, and you have a bias.


I put in all his test results without comment. I didn't leave anything out.

In fact I asked it to match us with one of the Sparks categories.


Uh, did the test results say autism? That's the point of the test.
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