Rich Kids Cheating

Anonymous
Stanford's motto is: if you are not even resourceful enough to fake disability you are not going to cut it in Silicon Valley, so a spot at Stanford is wasted on you.

All of HYPSM is difficult to get into, but Stanford's is the most gameable of all of T20.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:So by not being disabled, will my kid be considered "diversity" at Stanford since so many kids are "disabled"?

I would love to read the sob story essays these kids wrote about how their "disability" made life so challenging for them. The schools have brought this upon themselves.

And no, I'm not a cold-hearted jerk. I feel for those with legit disabilities that negatively impact their lives. But the whole situation has gone completely overboard and these fake disabilities are only damaging to those with legit ones.


Uh, they don't mention a word of this in their applications.


Why do you act so self-assured about this? How do you know? I am willing to bet (but unlike you, I admit that I do not know for sure) that plenty of these kids write sob story application essays about "overcoming" their "debilitating" disabilities. That is unfortunately how the game is played these days. A kid who has lived a normal childhood with no major challenges or crises is at a major disadvantage.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:So by not being disabled, will my kid be considered "diversity" at Stanford since so many kids are "disabled"?

I would love to read the sob story essays these kids wrote about how their "disability" made life so challenging for them. The schools have brought this upon themselves.

And no, I'm not a cold-hearted jerk. I feel for those with legit disabilities that negatively impact their lives. But the whole situation has gone completely overboard and these fake disabilities are only damaging to those with legit ones.

Uh, they don't mention a word of this in their applications.

Why do you act so self-assured about this? How do you know? I am willing to bet (but unlike you, I admit that I do not know for sure) that plenty of these kids write sob story application essays about "overcoming" their "debilitating" disabilities. That is unfortunately how the game is played these days. A kid who has lived a normal childhood with no major challenges or crises is at a major disadvantage.

(Actual) SN parent here. I don't know either, but this question comes up all the time on SN related online forums, with professionals who work with college applicants, and among parents. The resounding advice is always, don't do it. I have a feeling that most Brown, Harvard, Amherst and Stanford applicants aren't traveling in the same circles as I am.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Stanford's motto is: if you are not even resourceful enough to fake disability you are not going to cut it in Silicon Valley, so a spot at Stanford is wasted on you.

All of HYPSM is difficult to get into, but Stanford's is the most gameable of all of T20.


+1 Stanford loves kids who make up cr@p!!!
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:That’s fine take all of the extra time and advantages in college but good luck at holding a real job, these weak types will get weeded out very quickly.


Yup.

Boss: Client needs the report in an hour
Snowflake new employee: But I have an accommodation for extra time
Boss: Client needs the report in an hour
Snowflake: I said I have an accommodation
Boss: Great. Then I will find someone else who can actually do the work or else the client will hire a different firm that can. We are running a business, not a charity
Snowflake: I'm going to HR
Boss: Good, they will find you a nice, low stress back office job at 1/4 the pay.


In good news then you don’t have to worry about it because the market will naturally fix this on its own!
Anonymous
Doesn’t this include allergies.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Doesn’t this include allergies.


Sorry but allergy/nervousness is a farce. The student knows it. Their parents know it. The doctor who writes the required report knows it. The professor knows it. The people at the disability testing center know it. It's just legitimized cheating.

This is not to downplay real disability. I have students who are on the autism spectrum. You can tell after talking to them for 15 seconds. I support them seeking out accommodation. But for every such authentic case, I don't know how many fake ones are there.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:So by not being disabled, will my kid be considered "diversity" at Stanford since so many kids are "disabled"?

I would love to read the sob story essays these kids wrote about how their "disability" made life so challenging for them. The schools have brought this upon themselves.

And no, I'm not a cold-hearted jerk. I feel for those with legit disabilities that negatively impact their lives. But the whole situation has gone completely overboard and these fake disabilities are only damaging to those with legit ones.


Uh, they don't mention a word of this in their applications.


Why do you act so self-assured about this? How do you know? I am willing to bet (but unlike you, I admit that I do not know for sure) that plenty of these kids write sob story application essays about "overcoming" their "debilitating" disabilities. That is unfortunately how the game is played these days. A kid who has lived a normal childhood with no major challenges or crises is at a major disadvantage.


Not true at all. One of my children has a real learning disability and it’s not ADHD. He’s the most intelligent one in the family. It’s a nonverbal disability and it’s a crappy one to have. His nonverbal IQ tested at 108 and his verbal IQ tested at 135, a gap that is significant enough to determine a learning issue. He knows everything and has always read several grades ahead of his grade and he could complete math games on the computer at 18 mos. I can have a conversation with him about anything, historical events, US history, current world history, religion and his knowledge is so deep I just can’t understand it.

He would trade palaces in a second with someone without the types of challenges he faces. He’s not good with his hands so trade schools are out. He will go to a state school that he qualifies for with his grades all As and Bs, no APs. We will get him tutors so he can get the work on paper.

I would guess ADHD is the most lied about disability and Adderall the most prescribed medication. It’s easy to get a therapist or psychiatrist to diagnose ADHD. The posts on the teen section has posts where mothers complain their child started getting Cs in 8th grade and everyone will chime in, it’s ADHD. It couldn’t possibly be he isn’t skilled enough to keep up with the advanced math. No, they’d rather give their child a disability than admit math is just not a strong point.
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