I rose from admin to VP , how do I make next jump

[Anonymous]

I don't understand - what's above VP? What industry?

[Anonymous]

Change companies

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Change companies

I think that is a bad move for OP. She has as an inflated title for her skills and experience from her description; that will be apparent if she laterals to another VP role.

We should just talk digits. How much are you making at VP, north of $350k?

[Anonymous]

Industry is key here.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Change companies

I think that is a bad move for OP. She has as an inflated title for her skills and experience from her description; that will be apparent if she laterals to another VP role.

We should just talk digits. How much are you making at VP, north of $350k?

National company, East Coast Sector, VP in labor/goods acquisition, reporting to Sector president. Grew in another company to director level, made move to VP in current company. 6 years with current company. Every time I made a move from all prior jobs (total 3 jobs prior current, first two were about a year or two each not related to current industry, admin level), all counteroffered, then tried to call me back a month or so later. Female, early 40s. Just under $350k. Industry is very male, construction.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Change companies

I think that is a bad move for OP. She has as an inflated title for her skills and experience from her description; that will be apparent if she laterals to another VP role.

We should just talk digits. How much are you making at VP, north of $350k?

National company, East Coast Sector, VP in labor/goods acquisition, reporting to Sector president. Grew in another company to director level, made move to VP in current company. 6 years with current company. Every time I made a move from all prior jobs (total 3 jobs prior current, first two were about a year or two each not related to current industry, admin level), all counteroffered, then tried to call me back a month or so later. Female, early 40s. Just under $350k. Industry is very male, construction.

Are you OP? You said you worked way up over 15 years from Admin, implying one company. If they are taking you for granted and prior companies tried to call you back, why not just go back?

[Anonymous]

In my experience, the people who are successful at moving from "doer" to "strategist" end up getting laid off when there's a downturn. They also have a tough time finding a lateral position because they can't actually do anything.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:In my experience, the people who are successful at moving from "doer" to "strategist" end up getting laid off when there's a downturn. They also have a tough time finding a lateral position because they can't actually do anything.

True. Because the ones who start off as a strategist never did anything but rose because of “networking” (usually white guys looking for a minimum protege) and nepotism.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Change companies

I think that is a bad move for OP. She has as an inflated title for her skills and experience from her description; that will be apparent if she laterals to another VP role.

We should just talk digits. How much are you making at VP, north of $350k?

National company, East Coast Sector, VP in labor/goods acquisition, reporting to Sector president. Grew in another company to director level, made move to VP in current company. 6 years with current company. Every time I made a move from all prior jobs (total 3 jobs prior current, first two were about a year or two each not related to current industry, admin level), all counteroffered, then tried to call me back a month or so later. Female, early 40s. Just under $350k. Industry is very male, construction.

How many levels are they above you, to CEO?

Sector president is obviously next step, but jobs get rarer and rarer as yougrt higher up.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Change companies

I think that is a bad move for OP. She has as an inflated title for her skills and experience from her description; that will be apparent if she laterals to another VP role.

We should just talk digits. How much are you making at VP, north of $350k?

National company, East Coast Sector, VP in labor/goods acquisition, reporting to Sector president. Grew in another company to director level, made move to VP in current company. 6 years with current company. Every time I made a move from all prior jobs (total 3 jobs prior current, first two were about a year or two each not related to current industry, admin level), all counteroffered, then tried to call me back a month or so later. Female, early 40s. Just under $350k. Industry is very male, construction.

How many levels are there above you, to CEO?

Sector president is obviously next step, but jobs get rarer and rarer as you get higher up.

[Anonymous]

You can try for a similar level at a larger company, probably pays more. But your company knowledge is worth the most at your current company.
You can also try resigning and becoming a consultant.

[Anonymous]

VP can means very different things in different industries..on wall street for example there are a lot of "VPs" under 30 and their level of responsibility isn't that much to be honest.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Change companies

I think that is a bad move for OP. She has as an inflated title for her skills and experience from her description; that will be apparent if she laterals to another VP role.

We should just talk digits. How much are you making at VP, north of $350k?

National company, East Coast Sector, VP in labor/goods acquisition, reporting to Sector president. Grew in another company to director level, made move to VP in current company. 6 years with current company. Every time I made a move from all prior jobs (total 3 jobs prior current, first two were about a year or two each not related to current industry, admin level), all counteroffered, then tried to call me back a month or so later. Female, early 40s. Just under $350k. Industry is very male, construction.

Kudos to you OP. Impressive - sincerely.

This may be a dumb question, but have you let your leadership know you are interested in advancing? I imagine there can't be that many sector president jobs and your company does some sort of succession planning.

Next, does your company have a strategic plan? If you know how everything works under the hood I guarantee that you have ideas of value to contribute.

But everyone is right - you have to stop the - "it's just easier if I do it myself" mindset and lead the team. This is hard. I am struggling with it myself right now.

Last, don't sell yourself short. Imposter syndrome is rampant. The people speaking up in meetings don't have something extra special that you don't. Try to reframe your thinking from I was just an admin to I've worked at all levels of this business and that positions me to have valuable input.

Good luck.