Notre Dame reaffirms test-optional admissions policy as top-10 universities reimplement requirement

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Anonymous wrote:Precalc as an AP level class is an oxymoron.

Sure. But an AP Precalc score is a standardized test score in a core subject that isn’t an SAT/ACT score, so it’s extremely useful for schools that want to play the rankings game.

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Anonymous wrote:Is ND more "woke" than we thought?

What does this have anything to do with being "woke?"

Although, you know, it's a Catholic institution. And Catholics are pretty damn woke. You heard of this Pope guy? WOKE.

You know who else was Woke? JESUS. All that crap about loving neighbors and feeding the poor. Also, he was a colored guy. WOKE.

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Anonymous wrote:Maybe because Notre Dame draws from such a large Catholic population they could do this. They probably have a long history with parochial schools.

I did a quick google. For the class of '22, 44% of enrollees attended public school; 38% attended Catholic school; and 18 percent attended private/charter school.

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Anonymous wrote:ND is basically a liberal arts college.

Um, where did you get that sense? It is #20 in the USNWR rankings and has a business school, college of science, college of arts and letters, school of architecture, college of engineering, school of global affairs, and a law school.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:ND is basically a liberal arts college.

You need to look up “liberal arts college.”

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Anonymous wrote:I wonder if it’s the case that Midwest high schools don’t inflate GPA, so that the Midwest kids’ GPA actually predicts college success better. They admit a lot Midwest kids. [/quote

Midwest schools all inflate with exception to some Catholic high schools.

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Anonymous wrote:Why not? If most of their applicants are taking AP Lang/Lit and AP Calc, why would they need the SAT?

Agreed. And with the new AP Precalc exam, you can get AP scores in all four core subjects from kids taking a bog-standard college prep junior year schedule of AP Lang, APUSH, AP Physics 1, and AP Precalc. It’s a hair’s breadth away from being A Levels.

I'm not even worried about AP precal. I just think that with the level of competition in their pool, I'm guessing they have kids in APs that are way more advanced. Who cares if they can read a passage and answer a few questions on the SAT when you know they've done AP Lang and AP Lit?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Is ND more "woke" than we thought?

What does this have anything to do with being "woke?"

Although, you know, it's a Catholic institution. And Catholics are pretty damn woke. You heard of this Pope guy? WOKE.

You know who else was Woke? JESUS. All that crap about loving neighbors and feeding the poor. Also, he was a colored guy. WOKE.

You probably think you're so smart making this comment. What an idiot you are!

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Is ND more "woke" than we thought?

What does this have anything to do with being "woke?"

Although, you know, it's a Catholic institution. And Catholics are pretty damn woke. You heard of this Pope guy? WOKE.

You know who else was Woke? JESUS. All that crap about loving neighbors and feeding the poor. Also, he was a colored guy. WOKE.

You probably think you're so smart making this comment. What an idiot you are!

I agree the Pope isn’t woke. Everything else pp said is accurate though, although of course “colored guy” is inappropriate, it should be “person of color.”

Still has nothing to do with test optional policies, however.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Is ND more "woke" than we thought?

There is nothing woke about any catholics whatsoever.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:ND is basically a liberal arts college.

You need to look up “liberal arts college.”

Show me where I'm wrong. You want to talk about their Engineering program for starters?

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[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:https://www.ndsmcobserver.com/article/2025/11/notre-dame-remains-test-optional-adds-video-portion-of-application

There is somehting unique about midwest schools, Chicago, NU, and ND. Are these schools going to stay test optional for a longer period of time or possibly permanently?

This may be overlooked by many, but the article says about 30% of their REA admits did not submit scores. Notre Dame is a solid viable option for test optional kids.

Div 1 sports for 2 of them. Much more $$$

[Anonymous]

You guys really are idiots aren’t you? You need to get out of your bubble.

The money at Notre Dame and a school like Northwestern, Duke and Vanderbilt comes from NCAA revenue sports. That’s what’s most important. They will never go back to requiring scores. They need the ability to recruit whoever they want to however they want to. The world is different now with the NCAA transfer portal than it was before 2020.

Wake up everyone. This has nothing to do with rankings.

Idiots.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:You guys really are idiots aren’t you? You need to get out of your bubble.

The money at Notre Dame and a school like Northwestern, Duke and Vanderbilt comes from NCAA revenue sports. That’s what’s most important. They will never go back to requiring scores. They need the ability to recruit whoever they want to however they want to. The world is different now with the NCAA transfer portal than it was before 2020.

Wake up everyone. This has nothing to do with rankings.

Idiots.

ND has plenty of money without football lol.