National Honor Society GPA and Grades Variance?

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Anonymous wrote:Just anecdotal - I know for NJHS (at Middle School) it is up to the school. At our MS, they raised it to 3.75 GPA vs 3.5 because there were too many eligible kids at the 3.5 level.

Is that calculation weighted or unweighted?

Well, given the fact they are "invited" at the end of 7th grade, I would think there's not much weighting going on....the only weighted grade would be a 7th grader taking Algebra 1 or Geometry, right?

I've been told you can have one B, whatever that means.

Each Honors class could get a 0.5 bump up?

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Yes students still put honor society in college applications.

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Math is math. English is English. The honors classes or no honors classes are offered at every high school in fcps. Each curriculum level is consistent at each school. That’s not the problem. IB is same level of rigor as AP, and not all kids take those levels of courses at any of the high schools. If Langley is so much better than they should have as high of requirements as South Lakes.

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Anonymous wrote:Math is math. English is English. The honors classes or no honors classes are offered at every high school in fcps. Each curriculum level is consistent at each school. That’s not the problem. IB is same level of rigor as AP, and not all kids take those levels of courses at any of the high schools. If Langley is so much better than they should have as high of requirements as South Lakes.

They don’t because it’s harder to get an A at Langley than at SLHS - in both regular and honors classes.

In any case why do you care? Did your child not get invited? Or you’re worried it’s not prestigious enough? Go to TJ or private then.

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NHS variations have existed for years I went to high school in another state and we only had two schools in the county and they had different requirements for NHS back in the early 90s. I missed it because of this, long story not important not, but divides go back years. It's not really national in that way.

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I don’t get why our school (at least, perhaps others) has so many additional leadership and service requirements for NHS. It’s an honor society - seems like it should be academic and these other traits are deserving of their own recognition.

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Anonymous wrote:Great question. They are all weighted that I’m aware of but unsure.

The bigger concern was that schools like South Lakes requires more from its students than a school like Langley. So it’s easier to make NHS at Langley than South Lakes. Some high schools have minimum gpa required as 3.7 and others have a minimum at 3.5. That’s a big difference between having on average A- vs. B+ average.

South Lakes is an easier school overall so they should make the requirements harder.

Would think opposite - if think Langley is better school then there should be more kids getting 3.7 weighted so could do the higher gpa

It’s easier to get As at SLHS - so they make it a little tougher to get into NHS.

It’s harder to get As at Langley, therefore they drop the requirements a little.

How do you not get this?

NP - what evidence do you have that it’s harder to get As at Langley? I call BS and I’m not a SLHS parent.

SLHS is an IB school. Not that many kids do the full IB diploma. They do not have AP classes.

That does not mean it’s harder to get As at Langley.

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Anonymous wrote:Great question. They are all weighted that I’m aware of but unsure.

The bigger concern was that schools like South Lakes requires more from its students than a school like Langley. So it’s easier to make NHS at Langley than South Lakes. Some high schools have minimum gpa required as 3.7 and others have a minimum at 3.5. That’s a big difference between having on average A- vs. B+ average.

South Lakes is an easier school overall so they should make the requirements harder.

Would think opposite - if think Langley is better school then there should be more kids getting 3.7 weighted so could do the higher gpa

It’s easier to get As at SLHS - so they make it a little tougher to get into NHS.

It’s harder to get As at Langley, therefore they drop the requirements a little.

How do you not get this?

NP - what evidence do you have that it’s harder to get As at Langley? I call BS and I’m not a SLHS parent.

SLHS is an IB school. Not that many kids do the full IB diploma. They do not have AP classes.

That does not mean it’s harder to get As at Langley.

Tell someone who cares.

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Why do people think students at Langley are better than students at other schools. Very sad to see this negativity. The point isn’t about the students. The point is about the opportunities available should be consistent with prestigious national honor societies. If there were differences in past that’s an opportunity to correct and make better. Why can’t we focus on improvements without going into corners? We can do this people. This is a valid observation and an easy thing to improve.

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Anonymous wrote:Great question. They are all weighted that I’m aware of but unsure.

The bigger concern was that schools like South Lakes requires more from its students than a school like Langley. So it’s easier to make NHS at Langley than South Lakes. Some high schools have minimum gpa required as 3.7 and others have a minimum at 3.5. That’s a big difference between having on average A- vs. B+ average.

South Lakes is an easier school overall so they should make the requirements harder.

Would think opposite - if think Langley is better school then there should be more kids getting 3.7 weighted so could do the higher gpa

It’s easier to get As at SLHS - so they make it a little tougher to get into NHS.

It’s harder to get As at Langley, therefore they drop the requirements a little.

How do you not get this?

NP - what evidence do you have that it’s harder to get As at Langley? I call BS and I’m not a SLHS parent.

SLHS is an IB school. Not that many kids do the full IB diploma. They do not have AP classes.

That does not mean it’s harder to get As at Langley.

Tell someone who cares.

I care and so do many viewing and commenting on this thread.

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Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Great question. They are all weighted that I’m aware of but unsure.

The bigger concern was that schools like South Lakes requires more from its students than a school like Langley. So it’s easier to make NHS at Langley than South Lakes. Some high schools have minimum gpa required as 3.7 and others have a minimum at 3.5. That’s a big difference between having on average A- vs. B+ average.

South Lakes is an easier school overall so they should make the requirements harder.

Would think opposite - if think Langley is better school then there should be more kids getting 3.7 weighted so could do the higher gpa

It’s easier to get As at SLHS - so they make it a little tougher to get into NHS.

It’s harder to get As at Langley, therefore they drop the requirements a little.

How do you not get this?

NP - what evidence do you have that it’s harder to get As at Langley? I call BS and I’m not a SLHS parent.

SLHS is an IB school. Not that many kids do the full IB diploma. They do not have AP classes.

So the SLHS students would not be getting the 1.0 GPA bump so would be harder to get 3.5 or 3.7 at SLHS and easier to get at Langley if taking AP. Makes sense. Thanks.

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Anonymous wrote:Why do people think students at Langley are better than students at other schools. Very sad to see this negativity. The point isn’t about the students. The point is about the opportunities available should be consistent with prestigious national honor societies. If there were differences in past that’s an opportunity to correct and make better. Why can’t we focus on improvements without going into corners? We can do this people. This is a valid observation and an easy thing to improve.

Are people here saying Langley students aren’t as strong students and that’s why they need more help (lower GPA) to get certain honors? Doesn’t make sense if saying they are better so that’s why need lower standards.

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Anonymous wrote:SOO sick and tired of all the people that think everything in FcPS needs to be in lock step school to school.

Its the same school system. I'm one of those people annoyed nothing is lock step. Why have a large school system if you arent going to have similar standards from school to school? At least admit you have little influence on the schools and just provide assistance in certain central office areas. Its so annoying to hear how FCPS is so bad but then its not even the same from any one school to another. To me the state should have a standard for NHS.

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Anonymous wrote:SOO sick and tired of all the people that think everything in FcPS needs to be in lock step school to school.

Its the same school system. I'm one of those people annoyed nothing is lock step. Why have a large school system if you arent going to have similar standards from school to school? At least admit you have little influence on the schools and just provide assistance in certain central office areas. Its so annoying to hear how FCPS is so bad but then its not even the same from any one school to another. To me the state should have a standard for NHS.

It is a huge huge school system. One way to help rebalance that is letting schools have autonomy over certain things. Making everything lock step at this massive county size will feel like a straight jacket of compliance to a non responsive system. It would be different in a small system with just a handful of schools and genuine responsiveness to parent input. The scale of FCPS is entirely different though.

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Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Great question. They are all weighted that I’m aware of but unsure.

The bigger concern was that schools like South Lakes requires more from its students than a school like Langley. So it’s easier to make NHS at Langley than South Lakes. Some high schools have minimum gpa required as 3.7 and others have a minimum at 3.5. That’s a big difference between having on average A- vs. B+ average.

South Lakes is an easier school overall so they should make the requirements harder.

Would think opposite - if think Langley is better school then there should be more kids getting 3.7 weighted so could do the higher gpa

It’s easier to get As at SLHS - so they make it a little tougher to get into NHS.

It’s harder to get As at Langley, therefore they drop the requirements a little.

How do you not get this?

NP - what evidence do you have that it’s harder to get As at Langley? I call BS and I’m not a SLHS parent.

SLHS is an IB school. Not that many kids do the full IB diploma. They do not have AP classes.

So the SLHS students would not be getting the 1.0 GPA bump so would be harder to get 3.5 or 3.7 at SLHS and easier to get at Langley if taking AP. Makes sense. Thanks.

IB Classes, at leas the HL versions, get a 1 point bump in GPA. I think the SL classes get a .5 bump. Essentially, HL = AP, SL = Honors. The GPA bumps are there. Diploma candidates have to take a certain number of HL classes, I don’t know what that number of classes is.

I am surprised that the GPA for NHS is below a 3.7. A 3.5 should be pretty easy to get at most schools.