high school seniors in California will be automatically admitted to a California State University

[Anonymous]

What I like about the plan is that students are supposed to get letters letting them know how eligible they are. That may motivate some of them to work on classes/grades.
But as of right now, things are well set up for CC to UC transfers not CSU to UC transfers. Many high schoolers will continue to favor community colleges for no/low cost tuition with guaranteed transfer to UCs (not Berkeley/UCLA)
The 6 that are not part of this are the most desirable csus. The poster who noted that many of the others are struggling with enrollment/budget problems is correct.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Doesn't everyone already get into Mason?

Basically. Why not abolish applications?

[Anonymous]

These campuses are included:
Cal State Bakersfield
Cal State Channel Islands
Cal State Chico
Cal State Dominguez Hills
Cal State East Bay
Cal State Fresno
Cal Poly Humboldt
Cal State LA (California State University, Los Angeles)
Cal Maritime Academy (in Vallejo)
Cal State Monterey Bay
Cal State Northridge
Cal State Sacramento (Sacramento State)
Cal State San Bernardino
Cal State San Marcos
San Francisco State
Sonoma State
Stanislaus State

[Anonymous]

California has a demographic problem. There is a very high achieving top end. However, there is a horribly performing bottom. Unfortunately those at the bottom vastly outnumber those at the top. That's why you see states like Florida surpass California in high school testing. California has desperately tried to raise the bottom performance. They made illegal the use of the SAT in admissions, made community college free for 2 years, spend 2x as much for Title I schools than more affluent ones. They pay their teachers the most money of all the states.

But unfortunately it comes down to demographics.

[Anonymous]

There are a lot of crappy cal states.

[Anonymous]

Is San Francisco State not good? I thought it was a decent school. And Humbolt.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:No application needed. Considering how good CSUs are academically, it can’t get better for MC UMC kids. And they can transfer to UCB UCLA if they want, the two long established T20 schools.

CA is going to CA: drill into their youngest that there is no place other than CA to breathe, live, study, work, retire, die

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:12th graders at our California school have guaranteed admission to our local Cal State. Contrary to the mythology spread on DCUM, many of the Cal States are day campuses with struggling enrollments and huge budget shortfalls. They’re similar to community colleges. San Diego State and Cal Poly SLO, with their traditional residential experiences, are the exceptions, not the norms.

So this makes sense!

might as well go to uc merced which has a 95% acceptance rate

This is false.

There are so many excellent csus. SJSU is the oldest founding CSU, also the best among Csus. SFSU, Sonoma state, SLO, Long Beach, east bay.

DP. The schools that are not included are: Cal Poly SLO, Cal Poly Pomona, San Diego State, Long Beach, Fullerton, and SJSU. So you really aren't contradicting the PP.

[Anonymous]

It's a ridiculous idea. Almost all those Cal States accept 80-95% of every student who applies.

The Cal States that are competitive to get into (unless you are from out of state and then it is way easier because CA gets more tuition from out of state students):

Cal Poly San Luis Obispo -
Over 21,000 students applied just for the College of Engineering for 1,491 spots;

3,861 for college of architecture for 434 spots;

3,759 students applied to major in psychology
and there were only 80 spaces for freshman in 2025.

San Diego State
Long Beach State

If you can't be bothered to fill out an application that does NOT require any essays or letters of recommendation like the Cal State Application, then a 4 year college isn't for you.

[Anonymous]

Cal Northridge has one of the best music programs in the country, definitely in CA.

So that would be worthwhile.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Doesn't everyone already get into Mason?

Basically. Why not abolish applications?

Wish more schools would do that. It’s literally insane the way kids with perfect grades and SAT scores also need to be able to write heartfelt, insightful essays about how they want to change the world in order to be allowed to study linear algebra.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:What I like about the plan is that students are supposed to get letters letting them know how eligible they are. That may motivate some of them to work on classes/grades.
But as of right now, things are well set up for CC to UC transfers not CSU to UC transfers. Many high schoolers will continue to favor community colleges for no/low cost tuition with guaranteed transfer to UCs (not Berkeley/UCLA)
The 6 that are not part of this are the most desirable csus. The poster who noted that many of the others are struggling with enrollment/budget problems is correct.

Yes, but who is going to read these letters to the students?

[Anonymous]

I think this is a cost savings measure on both the college and student side of things. There’s a lot of overhead associated with managing and reviewing applications. Easier to just use existing state data and tell every student their guaranteed admit. It’s still up to the students to enroll. Knowing one guaranteed spot should help students narrow their focus for other applications.

Honestly, I wish all states would do this.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:California has a demographic problem. There is a very high achieving top end. However, there is a horribly performing bottom. Unfortunately those at the bottom vastly outnumber those at the top. That's why you see states like Florida surpass California in high school testing. California has desperately tried to raise the bottom performance. They made illegal the use of the SAT in admissions, made community college free for 2 years, spend 2x as much for Title I schools than more affluent ones. They pay their teachers the most money of all the states.

But unfortunately it comes down to demographics.

Do you have any data and research to back up these claims? From the outside looking in, there are more than enough students to fill almost every UC, plus a strong community college to UC pipeline plus California exports a ton students to surrounding states.

When you look at just the number of high school seniors graduate in CA, it was over 400,000 last year, that’s likely at least double the number in FL. If CA even had 70% of their high school graduates college ready, just by numbers that would be more than all the graduating high school seniors in FL and would still I’ll leave more than the number of MD graduating seniors left behind.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What I like about the plan is that students are supposed to get letters letting them know how eligible they are. That may motivate some of them to work on classes/grades.
But as of right now, things are well set up for CC to UC transfers not CSU to UC transfers. Many high schoolers will continue to favor community colleges for no/low cost tuition with guaranteed transfer to UCs (not Berkeley/UCLA)
The 6 that are not part of this are the most desirable csus. The poster who noted that many of the others are struggling with enrollment/budget problems is correct.

Yes, but who is going to read these letters to the students?

AI can do that now