IEP for anxiety and OCD

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Experienced special education teacher here who also has had OCD for years:

No school has the staffing to pull a child for 1:1 teaching. They might get small group instruction if they are way below grade level and need a specialized math or reading program. Those children might also have intellectual deficits or behavioral issues, so if your child doesn’t fit there, that’s difficult for your child.

An IEP would be to address specific goals, and the eligibility for an IEP would depend on their being an educational impact of the child’s disability. So you’d be looking for an eligibility of emotional disability due to the anxiety and OCD. Your child might benefit from another school geared towards ED kids.

Your child’s therapist or doctor and you need to consider what the triggers are for the OCD in the current classroom and how to make things better there. They will not get pulled out to work on grade level lessons 1:1.

I would focus on working on the anxiety and OCD. They will just manifest themselves in a new setting, anyway. If the child is not on medication, please try that first, as it can be like a miracle for people with your child’s profile. I’ll never forget getting on meds for OCD and how relieved I was. When my child developed OCD, I took her right for therapy and meds. I’d never let my child suffer with the agonizing worry that I had. She was able to go off the meds after a few years.

My autistic ES child gets pulled for 30 minutes 3x per week for 1:1 grade level lessons. They work on preteaching and finishing work she couldn't do in the classroom. Other times she gets 1:1 attention from the special ed teacher inside the gen ed classroom. I agree that you aren't going to get all day 1:1 instruction (in public school or anywhere else), but some 1:1 time is appropriate and realistic.

Our school offers exactly this for various kids with IEPs with various diagnoses. This is exactly what we are hoping to get. I don’t think it’s unrealistic at all to push for it considering he can’t function in a regular classroom without doing OCD rituals and being constantly distracted an overcome with anxiety at all times.
-OP

PP who got the nonmainstream placement. This sounds like a good and achievable outcome, but your child might have to fail into it. To go from a 504 to 6+ individual service hours is a big step. And I think it would be helpful to look at the alternatives for MS. Those kind of service hours seems like something you’d see in ES.

You haven’t mentioned your district. Maybe if you did people could offer additional things for you to look at.

Good luck. It takes time to get an optimal plan.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Experienced special education teacher here who also has had OCD for years:

No school has the staffing to pull a child for 1:1 teaching. They might get small group instruction if they are way below grade level and need a specialized math or reading program. Those children might also have intellectual deficits or behavioral issues, so if your child doesn’t fit there, that’s difficult for your child.

An IEP would be to address specific goals, and the eligibility for an IEP would depend on their being an educational impact of the child’s disability. So you’d be looking for an eligibility of emotional disability due to the anxiety and OCD. Your child might benefit from another school geared towards ED kids.

Your child’s therapist or doctor and you need to consider what the triggers are for the OCD in the current classroom and how to make things better there. They will not get pulled out to work on grade level lessons 1:1.

I would focus on working on the anxiety and OCD. They will just manifest themselves in a new setting, anyway. If the child is not on medication, please try that first, as it can be like a miracle for people with your child’s profile. I’ll never forget getting on meds for OCD and how relieved I was. When my child developed OCD, I took her right for therapy and meds. I’d never let my child suffer with the agonizing worry that I had. She was able to go off the meds after a few years.

My autistic ES child gets pulled for 30 minutes 3x per week for 1:1 grade level lessons. They work on preteaching and finishing work she couldn't do in the classroom. Other times she gets 1:1 attention from the special ed teacher inside the gen ed classroom. I agree that you aren't going to get all day 1:1 instruction (in public school or anywhere else), but some 1:1 time is appropriate and realistic.

Our school offers exactly this for various kids with IEPs with various diagnoses. This is exactly what we are hoping to get. I don’t think it’s unrealistic at all to push for it considering he can’t function in a regular classroom without doing OCD rituals and being constantly distracted an overcome with anxiety at all times.
-OP

Are you sure your child wouldn’t do the same ocd rituals in the pull-outs or find new rituals? You need to find a therapist who specializes in ocd and anxiety so these conditions can be managed

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Experienced special education teacher here who also has had OCD for years:

No school has the staffing to pull a child for 1:1 teaching. They might get small group instruction if they are way below grade level and need a specialized math or reading program. Those children might also have intellectual deficits or behavioral issues, so if your child doesn’t fit there, that’s difficult for your child.

Yes, we are doing that but we’re trying to help him not continually fall behind at school in the meantime. His preoccupation with everything around him in a classroom of 27 students greatly impacts his ability to focus compared to working one on one with an adult in a quiet setting.
-OP

An IEP would be to address specific goals, and the eligibility for an IEP would depend on their being an educational impact of the child’s disability. So you’d be looking for an eligibility of emotional disability due to the anxiety and OCD. Your child might benefit from another school geared towards ED kids.

Your child’s therapist or doctor and you need to consider what the triggers are for the OCD in the current classroom and how to make things better there. They will not get pulled out to work on grade level lessons 1:1.

I would focus on working on the anxiety and OCD. They will just manifest themselves in a new setting, anyway. If the child is not on medication, please try that first, as it can be like a miracle for people with your child’s profile. I’ll never forget getting on meds for OCD and how relieved I was. When my child developed OCD, I took her right for therapy and meds. I’d never let my child suffer with the agonizing worry that I had. She was able to go off the meds after a few years.

My autistic ES child gets pulled for 30 minutes 3x per week for 1:1 grade level lessons. They work on preteaching and finishing work she couldn't do in the classroom. Other times she gets 1:1 attention from the special ed teacher inside the gen ed classroom. I agree that you aren't going to get all day 1:1 instruction (in public school or anywhere else), but some 1:1 time is appropriate and realistic.

Our school offers exactly this for various kids with IEPs with various diagnoses. This is exactly what we are hoping to get. I don’t think it’s unrealistic at all to push for it considering he can’t function in a regular classroom without doing OCD rituals and being constantly distracted an overcome with anxiety at all times.
-OP

Are you sure your child wouldn’t do the same ocd rituals in the pull-outs or find new rituals? You need to find a therapist who specializes in ocd and anxiety so these conditions can be managed

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Experienced special education teacher here who also has had OCD for years:

No school has the staffing to pull a child for 1:1 teaching. They might get small group instruction if they are way below grade level and need a specialized math or reading program. Those children might also have intellectual deficits or behavioral issues, so if your child doesn’t fit there, that’s difficult for your child.

An IEP would be to address specific goals, and the eligibility for an IEP would depend on their being an educational impact of the child’s disability. So you’d be looking for an eligibility of emotional disability due to the anxiety and OCD. Your child might benefit from another school geared towards ED kids.

Your child’s therapist or doctor and you need to consider what the triggers are for the OCD in the current classroom and how to make things better there. They will not get pulled out to work on grade level lessons 1:1.

I would focus on working on the anxiety and OCD. They will just manifest themselves in a new setting, anyway. If the child is not on medication, please try that first, as it can be like a miracle for people with your child’s profile. I’ll never forget getting on meds for OCD and how relieved I was. When my child developed OCD, I took her right for therapy and meds. I’d never let my child suffer with the agonizing worry that I had. She was able to go off the meds after a few years.

My autistic ES child gets pulled for 30 minutes 3x per week for 1:1 grade level lessons. They work on preteaching and finishing work she couldn't do in the classroom. Other times she gets 1:1 attention from the special ed teacher inside the gen ed classroom. I agree that you aren't going to get all day 1:1 instruction (in public school or anywhere else), but some 1:1 time is appropriate and realistic.

Our school offers exactly this for various kids with IEPs with various diagnoses. This is exactly what we are hoping to get. I don’t think it’s unrealistic at all to push for it considering he can’t function in a regular classroom without doing OCD rituals and being constantly distracted an overcome with anxiety at all times.
-OP

Are you sure your child wouldn’t do the same ocd rituals in the pull-outs or find new rituals? You need to find a therapist who specializes in ocd and anxiety so these conditions can be managed

Yes, we are doing that but we’re trying to help him not continually fall behind at school in the meantime. His preoccupation with everything around him in a classroom of 27 students greatly impacts his ability to focus compared to working one on one with an adult in a quiet setting.
-OP

[Anonymous]

Going from gen ed unsupported to 1:1 isn’t happening. Those are opposite sides of the LRE continuum. Other options in the middle include gen ed with aide support/co-teaching or small group instruction. I do not see a school considering 1:1 instruction if co-teaching and/or small group instruction haven’t been tried yet

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Going from gen ed unsupported to 1:1 isn’t happening. Those are opposite sides of the LRE continuum. Other options in the middle include gen ed with aide support/co-teaching or small group instruction. I do not see a school considering 1:1 instruction if co-teaching and/or small group instruction haven’t been tried yet

They are already doing small group with him. And the aide works with him regularly in the gen ed class.
-OP

[Anonymous]

Is he in ERP therapy? Is he medicated?

[Anonymous]

Hi, I have a child with ADHD, OCD, ASD. Middle school has been very hard, we did partially homeschooling, now back to school in 8th grade but not really working well. He has an IEP since ES.
It’s not the same situation, mine is extremely challenging because of the multiple diagnoses and medication challenges, but I can see how OCD can really impair the learning of a child.
Once they get fixated on something and the rituals. I really hope that your child responds to medication and treatment and the school provides support. All the best to you.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Going from gen ed unsupported to 1:1 isn’t happening. Those are opposite sides of the LRE continuum. Other options in the middle include gen ed with aide support/co-teaching or small group instruction. I do not see a school considering 1:1 instruction if co-teaching and/or small group instruction haven’t been tried yet

They are already doing small group with him. And the aide works with him regularly in the gen ed class.
-OP

I thought he only had a 504 now? So no special ed support = gen ed.

[Anonymous]

First step is to initiate full scale eligibility testing for an ED category. I have never seen this level of service with a 504.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:First step is to initiate full scale eligibility testing for an ED category. I have never seen this level of service with a 504.

We asked for that at the LSC meeting. But they basically dismissed our request because he is not “failing” academically. Do I have to formally in writing request that specifically now?
-OP