No essay required by Clemson?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:A lot of state schools don't read essays. When you are admitting tens of thousands of kids, who cares or has time to differentiate?

UVA, UGA, you know, actual decent state schools.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:A lot of state schools don't read essays. When you are admitting tens of thousands of kids, who cares or has time to differentiate?

Just make the essays shorter by imposing a word limit; for example, a word limit of 2 might produce a great Why Clemson essay composed of "Go Tigers ".

If anyone needs help composing a two word limit essay for Indiana, Penn State, or UVa, I think that I can help.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:What decent school doesn’t consider the essay lol what a joke

Schools have plenty of data/information and a major essay.
Additional essays are dumb useless
You don't even know who actually wrote it.  Total BS. 
Students don't need additional burdens after years of hard work. Get rid of it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What decent school doesn’t consider the essay lol what a joke

Schools have plenty of data/information and a major essay.
Additional essays are dumb useless
You don't even know who actually wrote it.  Total BS. 
Students don't need additional burdens after years of hard work. Get rid of it.

But Clemson doesn't even want the Common App essay. I'm okay with the change, but I am just surprised, and DD didn't know until she opened a Common App account.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What decent school doesn’t consider the essay lol what a joke

Schools have plenty of data/information and a major essay.
Additional essays are dumb useless
You don't even know who actually wrote it.  Total BS. 
Students don't need additional burdens after years of hard work. Get rid of it.

I agree. The supplemental essays are ridiculous. Every one of my DC’s friends has an “essay coach” that basically drafts ALL the supplemental essays. These kids pay $10-15k and are completely done with their applications already. Yes, I admit it. I am jealous given the nagging going on daily in my house. DC is only applying to 11 schools and has around 20 supplemental essays.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It’s the easiest way to juice applications and then appear more selective than you really are.

This. It used to be super easy to get into, then they got good at football and tons of people applied by checking a box. Now they are terrible at football again, so should be easier to get in.

[Anonymous]

Just like hiring managers don't read cover letters. "I'm hard working and a team player, and will be an asset to the organization because blah, blah, blah..." Who cares? Everyone just judges based on the resume. Clemson admitted 23,000 students last year. You think they are saying "Well, Sally's stats are lower than Johnny's, but her essay just hit harder according to our hourly-paid temp admissions reader." It is a waste of their time/money to evaluate based on essays at that scale.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Just like hiring managers don't read cover letters. "I'm hard working and a team player, and will be an asset to the organization because blah, blah, blah..." Who cares? Everyone just judges based on the resume. Clemson admitted 23,000 students last year. You think they are saying "Well, Sally's stats are lower than Johnny's, but her essay just hit harder according to our hourly-paid temp admissions reader." It is a waste of their time/money to evaluate based on essays at that scale.

On that basis…just eliminate admissions staff and have AI spit out acceptances.

Honestly, maybe this is what most colleges should do.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Just like hiring managers don't read cover letters. "I'm hard working and a team player, and will be an asset to the organization because blah, blah, blah..." Who cares? Everyone just judges based on the resume. Clemson admitted 23,000 students last year. You think they are saying "Well, Sally's stats are lower than Johnny's, but her essay just hit harder according to our hourly-paid temp admissions reader." It is a waste of their time/money to evaluate based on essays at that scale.

On that basis…just eliminate admissions staff and have AI spit out acceptances.

Honestly, maybe this is what most colleges should do.

For the big state schools, yes they should, if they aren't already. Iowa State and UIowa already do this (algo-based admissions).

Clemson admitted 23,000 students, but only 20% enrolled. Why split hairs and read personal essays if 4 out of 5 students the admissions reader "loves" based on their personal statenent aren't enrolling anyway?

It's a totally different admissions culture compared to low admit/high yield schools where every admit counts. For honors colleges/merit scholarships, yes, then take a look.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Just like hiring managers don't read cover letters. "I'm hard working and a team player, and will be an asset to the organization because blah, blah, blah..." Who cares? Everyone just judges based on the resume. Clemson admitted 23,000 students last year. You think they are saying "Well, Sally's stats are lower than Johnny's, but her essay just hit harder according to our hourly-paid temp admissions reader." It is a waste of their time/money to evaluate based on essays at that scale.

On that basis…just eliminate admissions staff and have AI spit out acceptances.

Honestly, maybe this is what most colleges should do.

Yes I actually prefer AI do the selection and Tesla self-driving.

It'll be much more fair/effective and safer.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Just like hiring managers don't read cover letters. "I'm hard working and a team player, and will be an asset to the organization because blah, blah, blah..." Who cares? Everyone just judges based on the resume. Clemson admitted 23,000 students last year. You think they are saying "Well, Sally's stats are lower than Johnny's, but her essay just hit harder according to our hourly-paid temp admissions reader." It is a waste of their time/money to evaluate based on essays at that scale.

On that basis…just eliminate admissions staff and have AI spit out acceptances.

Honestly, maybe this is what most colleges should do.

For the big state schools, yes they should, if they aren't already. Iowa State and UIowa already do this (algo-based admissions).

Clemson admitted 23,000 students, but only 20% enrolled. Why split hairs and read personal essays if 4 out of 5 students the admissions reader "loves" based on their personal statenent aren't enrolling anyway?

It's a totally different admissions culture compared to low admit/high yield schools where every admit counts. For honors colleges/merit scholarships, yes, then take a look.

LMAO right all these students write about how much they love the school and its a perfect fit, then only 25% choose the school. Total waste of effort by both sides.

[Anonymous]

With the shift to AI use and the political fallout of attempts to ensure diversity, there will likely be a realignment from from “holistic” reviews that more heavily weight essays to admissions based on stats and verifiable awards, etc. Essays matter less and less, so colleges won’t want to waste their time (or the student’s).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:A lot of state schools don't read essays. When you are admitting tens of thousands of kids, who cares or has time to differentiate?

Just make the essays shorter by imposing a word limit; for example, a word limit of 2 might produce a great Why Clemson essay composed of "Go Tigers ".

If anyone needs help composing a two word limit essay for Indiana, Penn State, or UVa, I think that I can help.

“Admit me.”

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:What decent school doesn’t consider the essay lol what a joke

you seem pretty upset by it

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:A lot of state schools don't read essays. When you are admitting tens of thousands of kids, who cares or has time to differentiate?

Just make the essays shorter by imposing a word limit; for example, a word limit of 2 might produce a great Why Clemson essay composed of "Go Tigers ".

If anyone needs help composing a two word limit essay for Indiana, Penn State, or UVa, I think that I can help.

Gaslight much? Clemson's overall national rankings are not on the same level as Penn State for sure.