Any point apply to SCEA if GPA/score is less than perfect?

[Anonymous]

Same at ours, Princeton picks fgli every year.

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Anonymous wrote:GPA is 3.85~3.9 with SAT>1530. Top rigor track from a private with no class rank but knowing that some classmates have GPA>3.9.

The first thing these SCEA schools look at is the rigor. GPA comes next. At our school every year it’s the highest rigor kids get accepted.

Not true at ours. Major and accomplishments tend to have an influence.

[Anonymous]

My unhooked public school kid (from a good but not famous hs in New England) got in SCEA with strong but imperfect stats. I have no insider knowledge but generally believe that once you get into “ very strong” quantitative measures the process moves to evaluate in all of the “holistic” stuff. So better to have strong/imperfect stats with amazing essay/ECs/LOR than perfect stats but not a lot else.

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Anonymous wrote:My DC applied from a Big3 school this year and the SCEA schools as well as several other Ivies (Brown, Penn) definitely just took the highest GPA applicants. If there were 3.97s in the mix, they took them over the 3.89s every time. There was no "well the 3.89 has better extracurriculars" at all.

NP - I’m curious how is this calculated? DC is at a private where no one has a 4.0. All the top kids have at least 2-3 A- or even a B+. Will it matter to top colleges if the A-was in freshman year. There are 5 kids all have the same top GPA but some A-/B+ come from 9th vs 11th, or do they just look at the reported GPA?

There will definitely be kids who have no B+. If your kid is reporting grades to you, they probably dont know very well. Both my kids went to the same top rigorous private. My ds was not well informed and thought top kids had many A- etc and he had a 3.89 gpa. But at the time of applying he came to know there were kids who were almost 4.0. Now my DD has almost a perfect gpa and knows kids who are like her and thinks there are more than 5 students like her (all As and maybe one or two A-).

[Anonymous]

The other issue is there is very little advantage with SCEA unless you are hooked (athletes and legacies, questbridge).
I think a better question for your DC is whether it is better to apply ED to say Northwestern or Cornell where there is a boost for ED and perhaps your student may be the best student from your school applying?

[Anonymous]

The 4.0 low rigor kid at our private school went to UCLA. The 3.8+ high rigor in at ivies. OP, sounds like your counselor considers your kid in the competitive pool.

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Anonymous wrote:The other issue is there is very little advantage with SCEA unless you are hooked (athletes and legacies, questbridge).
I think a better question for your DC is whether it is better to apply ED to say Northwestern or Cornell where there is a boost for ED and perhaps your student may be the best student from your school applying?

Or Brown, Duke, Columbia, Rice, Vanderbilt.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The other issue is there is very little advantage with SCEA unless you are hooked (athletes and legacies, questbridge).
I think a better question for your DC is whether it is better to apply ED to say Northwestern or Cornell where there is a boost for ED and perhaps your student may be the best student from your school applying?

Or Brown, Duke, Columbia, Rice, Vanderbilt.

Rice, NU, Chicago, JHU, and Vandy have ED2, these are nice options after SCEA reject.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The other issue is there is very little advantage with SCEA unless you are hooked (athletes and legacies, questbridge).
I think a better question for your DC is whether it is better to apply ED to say Northwestern or Cornell where there is a boost for ED and perhaps your student may be the best student from your school applying?

Or Brown, Duke, Columbia, Rice, Vanderbilt.

Rice, NU, Chicago, JHU, and Vandy have ED2, these are nice options after SCEA reject.

NU does not have ED2. Not sure why an SCEA reject wouldn't be able to get into a few of these schools RD...

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The other issue is there is very little advantage with SCEA unless you are hooked (athletes and legacies, questbridge).
I think a better question for your DC is whether it is better to apply ED to say Northwestern or Cornell where there is a boost for ED and perhaps your student may be the best student from your school applying?

Or Brown, Duke, Columbia, Rice, Vanderbilt.

Rice, NU, Chicago, JHU, and Vandy have ED2, these are nice options after SCEA reject.

No. NU does not

[Anonymous]

For HYPSM you apply SCEA to get early result. There is no advantage to applying SCEA/REA to HYPSM.

Outside of HYPSM, there is a huge advantage for T6 to T20.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The other issue is there is very little advantage with SCEA unless you are hooked (athletes and legacies, questbridge).
I think a better question for your DC is whether it is better to apply ED to say Northwestern or Cornell where there is a boost for ED and perhaps your student may be the best student from your school applying?

Or Brown, Duke, Columbia, Rice, Vanderbilt.

Rice, NU, Chicago, JHU, and Vandy have ED2, these are nice options after SCEA reject.

NU does not have ED2. Not sure why an SCEA reject wouldn't be able to get into a few of these schools RD...

That is true from our school. They also apply to the other four HYPSM RD. Some got in.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The other issue is there is very little advantage with SCEA unless you are hooked (athletes and legacies, questbridge).
I think a better question for your DC is whether it is better to apply ED to say Northwestern or Cornell where there is a boost for ED and perhaps your student may be the best student from your school applying?

Or Brown, Duke, Columbia, Rice, Vanderbilt.

Can a 3.85 from a top private with top rigor, 1560 get into schools listed above? Unhooked, good ECs but not amazing, good teachers rec, full pay

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The other issue is there is very little advantage with SCEA unless you are hooked (athletes and legacies, questbridge).
I think a better question for your DC is whether it is better to apply ED to say Northwestern or Cornell where there is a boost for ED and perhaps your student may be the best student from your school applying?

Or Brown, Duke, Columbia, Rice, Vanderbilt.

Rice, NU, Chicago, JHU, and Vandy have ED2, these are nice options after SCEA reject.

NU does not have ED2. Not sure why an SCEA reject wouldn't be able to get into a few of these schools RD...

That is true from our school. They also apply to the other four HYPSM RD. Some got in.

What are the stats of these kids who hit in HYPMS in RD after early rejection?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The other issue is there is very little advantage with SCEA unless you are hooked (athletes and legacies, questbridge).
I think a better question for your DC is whether it is better to apply ED to say Northwestern or Cornell where there is a boost for ED and perhaps your student may be the best student from your school applying?

Or Brown, Duke, Columbia, Rice, Vanderbilt.

Can a 3.85 from a top private with top rigor, 1560 get into schools listed above? Unhooked, good ECs but not amazing, good teachers rec, full pay

Male to brown ED, yes absolutely, if no legacies.
The others are easier than Brown, other than maybe Duke. Depends on the competition there.