FCPS 3rd grade teacher discipline

[Anonymous]

I'm a fan of strict, but this seems counterproductive. Some kids won't care or will even act out more to draw attention. Some kids will be deeply shamed. But the class won't be more well behaved.

Our school does something more like verbal reminder(s), write a note about your behavior and what you need to improve that your parents have to sign and return, then call the parents/send you to the office as the 1, 2, 3. The speed of the escalation depends on the severity of the offense. Kids will get a lot more verbal warnings for talking out of turn than for hitting someone.

[Anonymous]

I’m okay with strict, but this seems like she does not seem like she has good methods for controlling the class. I would escalate.

[Anonymous]

This is insane and illegal, not to mention contrary to all research about child development in the last thirty years. Demand she stopped or be fired. I would seriously tell the school you're going to file a complaint with the superintendent.

All of you people defending this are abusive psychopaths.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:oh poor baby has to raise their hand for 30 seconds boo hoo

It’s public shaming. She might as well give them a dunce cap. The intent is to shame the child into behaving. That isn’t best practice and hasn’t been for a long time. It shows the teacher is very lacking in modern classroom management skills.

And classrooms have been rife with behavioral problems for a long time

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:oh poor baby has to raise their hand for 30 seconds boo hoo

It’s public shaming. She might as well give them a dunce cap. The intent is to shame the child into behaving. That isn’t best practice and hasn’t been for a long time. It shows the teacher is very lacking in modern classroom management skills.

And classrooms have been rife with behavioral problems for a long time

Why stop there? Why not just paddle them like in Texas or Florida? They have excellent education results right?

[Anonymous]

Considering the current state of behavior in classrooms- I see good for her. Come down on it like a hammer from the start and there will be far fewer problems moving forward. This is not inflicted pain- but it is embarrassing

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:oh poor baby has to raise their hand for 30 seconds boo hoo

It’s public shaming. She might as well give them a dunce cap. The intent is to shame the child into behaving. That isn’t best practice and hasn’t been for a long time. It shows the teacher is very lacking in modern classroom management skills.

And classrooms have been rife with behavioral problems for a long time

Why stop there? Why not just paddle them like in Texas or Florida? They have excellent education results right?

Kids should behave or their parents can educate them and discipline as they see fit.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:oh poor baby has to raise their hand for 30 seconds boo hoo

It’s public shaming. She might as well give them a dunce cap. The intent is to shame the child into behaving. That isn’t best practice and hasn’t been for a long time. It shows the teacher is very lacking in modern classroom management skills.

And classrooms have been rife with behavioral problems for a long time

Why stop there? Why not just paddle them like in Texas or Florida? They have excellent education results right?

Kids should behave or their parents can educate them and discipline as they see fit.

What does that have to do with anything? Define behave. Define discipline.

[Anonymous]

I'd reach out to her and confirm and then tell her its not an ok method for your child and if she has issues, reach out to you.

[Anonymous]

Those of you saying paddling kids works for a punishment, I’ve worked at schools with corporal punishment like paddling. It did nothing to curb the behavior. In fact thr behavior was the worst at any school I’ve ever taught at.

[Anonymous]

You need to call the principal immediately about this. It is totally not okay.

-experienced FCPS elementary teacher

[Anonymous]

Just to clarify for people who are saying that this is good punishment for bad behaviors.. The reasons these kids had to go to the corner and raise arm for 5 mins or even 30 seconds were talking among friends while the teacher was talking or getting out of their seat. It wasn’t just a handful of kids getting it multiple times; it was majority of the kids in the whole class, every day of the first week. You make it sound like this 3rd grade AAP class is a scene out of Dangerous Minds movie. I don’t know how you (the ones who are mocking my concern as a parent saying “boohoo” or “they should be paddled” and such) are raising your children, but this is absolutely illegal in VA per 22VAC40-141-150. Which quotes “there shall be no physical punishment… forcing a child to assume an uncomfortable position like keeping arms raised above or horizontal to the body”. It’s unbelievable how you’re saying I’m a high-maintenance or gentle parent to make excuses for this teacher and this absurd punishment of shaming 8 year olds in front of the whole class. It IS both physical and psychological abuse. But if you still think this is acceptable, maybe next time you make a mistake at work, you should be told to stand in a corner and raise your arm for 30 mins in front of the whole company.

FYI, other parents must’ve reported her because she apparently told the whole class this morning that she won’t be doing the “arm raising thing” anymore. Relieved that this was resolved right away but shocked and disappointed at some of the responses. I appreciate the comments with constructive advice and support.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Just to clarify for people who are saying that this is good punishment for bad behaviors.. The reasons these kids had to go to the corner and raise arm for 5 mins or even 30 seconds were talking among friends while the teacher was talking or getting out of their seat. It wasn’t just a handful of kids getting it multiple times; it was majority of the kids in the whole class, every day of the first week. You make it sound like this 3rd grade AAP class is a scene out of Dangerous Minds movie. I don’t know how you (the ones who are mocking my concern as a parent saying “boohoo” or “they should be paddled” and such) are raising your children, but this is absolutely illegal in VA per 22VAC40-141-150. Which quotes “there shall be no physical punishment… forcing a child to assume an uncomfortable position like keeping arms raised above or horizontal to the body”. It’s unbelievable how you’re saying I’m a high-maintenance or gentle parent to make excuses for this teacher and this absurd punishment of shaming 8 year olds in front of the whole class. It IS both physical and psychological abuse. But if you still think this is acceptable, maybe next time you make a mistake at work, you should be told to stand in a corner and raise your arm for 30 mins in front of the whole company.

FYI, other parents must’ve reported her because she apparently told the whole class this morning that she won’t be doing the “arm raising thing” anymore. Relieved that this was resolved right away but shocked and disappointed at some of the responses. I appreciate the comments with constructive advice and support.

Is teacher one of the intl program ones? Have read here that they come in and are really thrown by kids behavior in US schools and this sounds like someone needs to school system.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Just to clarify for people who are saying that this is good punishment for bad behaviors.. The reasons these kids had to go to the corner and raise arm for 5 mins or even 30 seconds were talking among friends while the teacher was talking or getting out of their seat. It wasn’t just a handful of kids getting it multiple times; it was majority of the kids in the whole class, every day of the first week. You make it sound like this 3rd grade AAP class is a scene out of Dangerous Minds movie. I don’t know how you (the ones who are mocking my concern as a parent saying “boohoo” or “they should be paddled” and such) are raising your children, but this is absolutely illegal in VA per 22VAC40-141-150. Which quotes “there shall be no physical punishment… forcing a child to assume an uncomfortable position like keeping arms raised above or horizontal to the body”. It’s unbelievable how you’re saying I’m a high-maintenance or gentle parent to make excuses for this teacher and this absurd punishment of shaming 8 year olds in front of the whole class. It IS both physical and psychological abuse. But if you still think this is acceptable, maybe next time you make a mistake at work, you should be told to stand in a corner and raise your arm for 30 mins in front of the whole company.

FYI, other parents must’ve reported her because she apparently told the whole class this morning that she won’t be doing the “arm raising thing” anymore. Relieved that this was resolved right away but shocked and disappointed at some of the responses. I appreciate the comments with constructive advice and support.

I'm not saying the teacher's method of discipline was necessarily the right one....but why are the kids talking to their friends when the teacher is talking or getting out of their seats when they're not supposed to? I see this stuff all the time and just don't understand why we've decided not to teach our kids not to do these things. it's rude and disrespectful.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:oh poor baby has to raise their hand for 30 seconds boo hoo

It’s public shaming. She might as well give them a dunce cap. The intent is to shame the child into behaving. That isn’t best practice and hasn’t been for a long time. It shows the teacher is very lacking in modern classroom management skills.

I think for bad behavior we do need to bring back some shaming You need to learn consequences of poor behavior. I would probably oppose the arm raising but standing in the corner - Sure! If it deters others? Great! My kids' private uses "positive discipline" and I think that only works for some things. For others, they positively send kids out of the class for some time.