Mid ranked State schools but full merit

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Eh only if my kid really really wanted to be in that state and was okay being surrounded with kids From that state. There will be nearly zero geographic diversity.


Wrong — SEC schools have large numbers of kids OOS


That’s not really true…only Alabama really does with 60% OOS.

The top schools like UGA, UT and Florida don’t because they purposely restrict OOS (UGA is probably highest at 20%).

The bottom tier academic schools don’t because they just aren’t particularly coveted by OOS…schools like Ole Miss and LSU are also 80%+ in state.

Now 20% of these schools is a decent # of kids.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Eh only if my kid really really wanted to be in that state and was okay being surrounded with kids From that state. There will be nearly zero geographic diversity.


Wrong — SEC schools have large numbers of kids OOS


That’s not really true…only Alabama really does with 60% OOS.

The top schools like UGA, UT and Florida don’t because they purposely restrict OOS (UGA is probably highest at 20%).

The bottom tier academic schools don’t because they just aren’t particularly coveted by OOS…schools like Ole Miss and LSU are also 80%+ in state.

Now 20% of these schools is a decent # of kids.


I'd bet only one SEC school has more than 30% OOS. That one is probably 90%+ and is outside all of the terms of this thread.
Anonymous
Colorado State is 45% OOS and has some good programs. I would definitely want me kid to consider a $0 undergrad experience. Going out West for school could be fun.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Eh only if my kid really really wanted to be in that state and was okay being surrounded with kids From that state. There will be nearly zero geographic diversity.


Wrong — SEC schools have large numbers of kids OOS


That’s not really true…only Alabama really does with 60% OOS.

The top schools like UGA, UT and Florida don’t because they purposely restrict OOS (UGA is probably highest at 20%).

The bottom tier academic schools don’t because they just aren’t particularly coveted by OOS…schools like Ole Miss and LSU are also 80%+ in state.

Now 20% of these schools is a decent # of kids.


I'd bet only one SEC school has more than 30% OOS. That one is probably 90%+ and is outside all of the terms of this thread.


I think you mean Vandy…yes forgot about Vandy which is private.

No..Alabama is 60% OOS. It’s really odd that Alabama is generally shunned by its own state considering Auburn is at least at 40% OOS.
Anonymous
huge opportunity cost.

as Taylor Swift said, Your (kid's) attention is expensive. Down just give it away.

if you can't afford college, there's FA everywhere up and down the selectivity level.

if you can afford college, don't do this. I understand not wanting to pay 90k a year, but there are state schools, OOS with merit, or private with merit.

this will hurt future earnings for decades and your kid will miss out on engaging with kids from different places w different views.

unless you're not telling us something really unique - like students wants into agricultural dev and Utah State has a program she loved - then no. (I think Colorado State may be an outlier here, maybe there are other good programs)
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Eh only if my kid really really wanted to be in that state and was okay being surrounded with kids From that state. There will be nearly zero geographic diversity.


Wrong — SEC schools have large numbers of kids OOS


That’s not really true…only Alabama really does with 60% OOS.

The top schools like UGA, UT and Florida don’t because they purposely restrict OOS (UGA is probably highest at 20%).

The bottom tier academic schools don’t because they just aren’t particularly coveted by OOS…schools like Ole Miss and LSU are also 80%+ in state.

Now 20% of these schools is a decent # of kids.


I'd bet only one SEC school has more than 30% OOS. That one is probably 90%+ and is outside all of the terms of this thread.

U Mississippi 35% in-state/63% out of state
Clemson 52% in-state/46% out of state
Georgia Tech 56% in-state/35% out of state
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I probably already know the answer to this but how does DCUM feel about mid ranked state universities offering either in state tuition or almost full merit to out of state kids with high GPAs. Would you consider if for your kid?

Examples of schools doing this:
University of New Mexico
Norther Arizona
Univ of Montana
Univ of Wyoming
Colorado State
Idaho
Oregon State
Utah State



Northern Arizona.

"We smoke grade A trees cause our grades is D's."

Make sure your kid likes weed!
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Eh only if my kid really really wanted to be in that state and was okay being surrounded with kids From that state. There will be nearly zero geographic diversity.


Wrong — SEC schools have large numbers of kids OOS


That’s not really true…only Alabama really does with 60% OOS.

The top schools like UGA, UT and Florida don’t because they purposely restrict OOS (UGA is probably highest at 20%).

The bottom tier academic schools don’t because they just aren’t particularly coveted by OOS…schools like Ole Miss and LSU are also 80%+ in state.

Now 20% of these schools is a decent # of kids.


I'd bet only one SEC school has more than 30% OOS. That one is probably 90%+ and is outside all of the terms of this thread.

U Mississippi 35% in-state/63% out of state
Clemson 52% in-state/46% out of state
Georgia Tech 56% in-state/35% out of state


Well, the bottom two are ACC schools….
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Eh only if my kid really really wanted to be in that state and was okay being surrounded with kids From that state. There will be nearly zero geographic diversity.


Wrong — SEC schools have large numbers of kids OOS


That’s not really true…only Alabama really does with 60% OOS.

The top schools like UGA, UT and Florida don’t because they purposely restrict OOS (UGA is probably highest at 20%).

The bottom tier academic schools don’t because they just aren’t particularly coveted by OOS…schools like Ole Miss and LSU are also 80%+ in state.

Now 20% of these schools is a decent # of kids.


I'd bet only one SEC school has more than 30% OOS. That one is probably 90%+ and is outside all of the terms of this thread.

U Mississippi 35% in-state/63% out of state
Clemson 52% in-state/46% out of state
Georgia Tech 56% in-state/35% out of state


Well, the bottom two are ACC schools….


Or was that the point? SEC school has more OOS? Slow this morning….
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Eh only if my kid really really wanted to be in that state and was okay being surrounded with kids From that state. There will be nearly zero geographic diversity.


Wrong — SEC schools have large numbers of kids OOS


That’s not really true…only Alabama really does with 60% OOS.

The top schools like UGA, UT and Florida don’t because they purposely restrict OOS (UGA is probably highest at 20%).

The bottom tier academic schools don’t because they just aren’t particularly coveted by OOS…schools like Ole Miss and LSU are also 80%+ in state.

Now 20% of these schools is a decent # of kids.


I'd bet only one SEC school has more than 30% OOS. That one is probably 90%+ and is outside all of the terms of this thread.

U Mississippi 35% in-state/63% out of state
Clemson 52% in-state/46% out of state
Georgia Tech 56% in-state/35% out of state


Well, the bottom two are ACC schools….

Sorry. Of the full SEC (list per google), 11 have 30%+ OOS, and only three (in TX and FL) have <30% OOS:

Kentucky 61% in state/37% OOS
Florida 80% in state/15% OOS
Alabama 35% in state/65% OOS
Arkansas 39% in state/60% OOS
Auburn 58% in state/41% OOS
LSU 65% in state/34% OOS
South Carolina 52% in state/47% OOS
Missouri 70% in state/30% OOS
Ole Miss 35% in state/63% OOS
Texas A&M 93% in state/6% OOS
Mississippi State 59% in state/40% OOS
Oklahoma 53% in state/45% OOS
Tennessee 54% in state/45% OOS
Texas 88% in state/8% OOS

Point being that the poster guessing that only one SEC school has under 30% OOS was very incorrect, as was the poster guessing that LSU and Ole Miss were 80%+ in state.
Anonymous
Of those, only Oregon State. NAU isn’t too bad, but there is no reason for anyone from the DMV to consider any of these schools. Zero.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I probably already know the answer to this but how does DCUM feel about mid ranked state universities offering either in state tuition or almost full merit to out of state kids with high GPAs. Would you consider if for your kid?

Examples of schools doing this:
University of New Mexico
Norther Arizona
Univ of Montana
Univ of Wyoming
Colorado State
Idaho
Oregon State
Utah State


Colorado State
Oregon State
U Utah

Might consider Montana State Bozeman; depends on how competitive the kid is.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Of the schools listed, UNM is in the largest city of roughly 1 million people. For DMV folks who couldn't stand living in small/remote college towns, UNM is probably the best. Albuquerque is also the easiest to get to.



A friend went there years ago after failing out of another school. He was able to get in state tuition. Worked out great for him. He now has a Phd.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:huge opportunity cost.

as Taylor Swift said, Your (kid's) attention is expensive. Down just give it away.

if you can't afford college, there's FA everywhere up and down the selectivity level.

if you can afford college, don't do this. I understand not wanting to pay 90k a year, but there are state schools, OOS with merit, or private with merit.

this will hurt future earnings for decades and your kid will miss out on engaging with kids from different places w different views.

unless you're not telling us something really unique - like students wants into agricultural dev and Utah State has a program she loved - then no. (I think Colorado State may be an outlier here, maybe there are other good programs)


Are you saying because presumably OP is from the DMV that going to these colleges will hurt their future prospects (colleges aren’t known/respected by employers?)? What other schools, equivalent in price, would you recommend that would be better for their career & connections? I assume some of these schools are about $25k all in, if that. By the way, I don’t disagree with you. It would be a hard no for me as well.
Anonymous
I think I would pick a few of those schools over JMU or VCU? Fort Collins is cool and the job market seems good in Colorado.

I probably would not pick Wyoming because Cheyenne is not great.
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