3rd grade APS class - 60% boys

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:There are all boys schools all over the world, including some very prestigious ones here, and the teachers seem to manage fine. It’s my experience that the teachers who work with a lot of boys tend to recognize that kids have a biological need to move more and do better on concentration when they have the chance to move more. Not just boys or even young boys, but all kids. Girls tend to manage unrealistic and unnatural expectations better but that doesn’t make them any more realistic or natural.

Oh yeah private school boys schools are exactly like public school. The boys are going to take all the teachers attention, and I guess run around the room will be the norm. APS schools are not built to allow the amount of movement you describe, most are overcrowded and have limited outdoor space in our urban county.

This is really not true but ok. APS has some of the smallest class sizes for elementary school in the region. There are many things teachers can do (and some of them do it) including offering flexible seating arrangements and really just being more engaging and interesting and realistic about how little kids learn.

Elementary teachers tend to be women and sometimes women without a whole lot of classroom experience. The educational model for this age completely favors girls and a lot of these women don't like boys and it's very obvious.

The SCHOOLS are overcrowded, not the classrooms, so there isn’t sufficient outdoor space to rotate the school population through limited outdoor space.

And at our APS school, our class sizes are about 5 students larger than APS average, about 27.

You could run a classroom of 8-year olds ragged with nothing more than a couple of balls and a patch of concrete. With a bit of creativity you don’t even need the balls.

But you don’t even need that. Ask the preschool teachers - just letting the kids shake their limbs and wiggle in place can get the job done. We don’t need to spend a million dollars to allow kids to move.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Oh geez. This is not a problem, OP.

Typical APS. So your class has 15 boys and 10 girls (assuming a class of 25). Those 3 extra boys really are a non issue.

You have your panties in a wad for no reason. Your little princess will survive

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Oh geez. This is not a problem, OP.

Typical APS. So your class has 15 boys and 10 girls (assuming a class of 25). Those 3 extra boys really are a non issue.

You have your panties in a wad for no reason. Your little princess will survive

It really depends on who those boys are. In my older son’s grade there are too many instigators to separate them all, so it’s a mess even though the gender ratio is balanced. My younger son’s grade doesn’t seem to have the same problem.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There are all boys schools all over the world, including some very prestigious ones here, and the teachers seem to manage fine. It’s my experience that the teachers who work with a lot of boys tend to recognize that kids have a biological need to move more and do better on concentration when they have the chance to move more. Not just boys or even young boys, but all kids. Girls tend to manage unrealistic and unnatural expectations better but that doesn’t make them any more realistic or natural.

Oh yeah private school boys schools are exactly like public school. The boys are going to take all the teachers attention, and I guess run around the room will be the norm. APS schools are not built to allow the amount of movement you describe, most are overcrowded and have limited outdoor space in our urban county.

This is really not true but ok. APS has some of the smallest class sizes for elementary school in the region. There are many things teachers can do (and some of them do it) including offering flexible seating arrangements and really just being more engaging and interesting and realistic about how little kids learn.

Elementary teachers tend to be women and sometimes women without a whole lot of classroom experience. The educational model for this age completely favors girls and a lot of these women don't like boys and it's very obvious.

The SCHOOLS are overcrowded, not the classrooms, so there isn’t sufficient outdoor space to rotate the school population through limited outdoor space.

And at our APS school, our class sizes are about 5 students larger than APS average, about 27.

You could run a classroom of 8-year olds ragged with nothing more than a couple of balls and a patch of concrete. With a bit of creativity you don’t even need the balls.

But you don’t even need that. Ask the preschool teachers - just letting the kids shake their limbs and wiggle in place can get the job done. We don’t need to spend a million dollars to allow kids to move.

Wait I’m sorry are we talking about recess time or instruction/learning time? I’m all for more recess time — we liked how APS had two recesses in kinder for example.

But it’s not tenable now, you are looking at the capacity which includes trailers, which use field space and don’t include added outdoor equipment for the expanded population. Same reason my 3rd grader had a 10am lunch.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Oh geez. This is not a problem, OP.

Typical APS. So your class has 15 boys and 10 girls (assuming a class of 25). Those 3 extra boys really are a non issue.

You have your panties in a wad for no reason. Your little princess will survive

There are 50% more boys than girls.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There are all boys schools all over the world, including some very prestigious ones here, and the teachers seem to manage fine. It’s my experience that the teachers who work with a lot of boys tend to recognize that kids have a biological need to move more and do better on concentration when they have the chance to move more. Not just boys or even young boys, but all kids. Girls tend to manage unrealistic and unnatural expectations better but that doesn’t make them any more realistic or natural.

Oh yeah private school boys schools are exactly like public school. The boys are going to take all the teachers attention, and I guess run around the room will be the norm. APS schools are not built to allow the amount of movement you describe, most are overcrowded and have limited outdoor space in our urban county.

This is really not true but ok. APS has some of the smallest class sizes for elementary school in the region. There are many things teachers can do (and some of them do it) including offering flexible seating arrangements and really just being more engaging and interesting and realistic about how little kids learn.

Elementary teachers tend to be women and sometimes women without a whole lot of classroom experience. The educational model for this age completely favors girls and a lot of these women don't like boys and it's very obvious.

The SCHOOLS are overcrowded, not the classrooms, so there isn’t sufficient outdoor space to rotate the school population through limited outdoor space.

And at our APS school, our class sizes are about 5 students larger than APS average, about 27.

You could run a classroom of 8-year olds ragged with nothing more than a couple of balls and a patch of concrete. With a bit of creativity you don’t even need the balls.

But you don’t even need that. Ask the preschool teachers - just letting the kids shake their limbs and wiggle in place can get the job done. We don’t need to spend a million dollars to allow kids to move.

Wait I’m sorry are we talking about recess time or instruction/learning time? I’m all for more recess time — we liked how APS had two recesses in kinder for example.

But it’s not tenable now, you are looking at the capacity which includes trailers, which use field space and don’t include added outdoor equipment for the expanded population. Same reason my 3rd grader had a 10am lunch.

Take them out and make them run laps around all the trailers and the building. You don't need field space or added outdoor equipment for this. Run them until they are exhausted and then bring them back in.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There are all boys schools all over the world, including some very prestigious ones here, and the teachers seem to manage fine. It’s my experience that the teachers who work with a lot of boys tend to recognize that kids have a biological need to move more and do better on concentration when they have the chance to move more. Not just boys or even young boys, but all kids. Girls tend to manage unrealistic and unnatural expectations better but that doesn’t make them any more realistic or natural.

Oh yeah private school boys schools are exactly like public school. The boys are going to take all the teachers attention, and I guess run around the room will be the norm. APS schools are not built to allow the amount of movement you describe, most are overcrowded and have limited outdoor space in our urban county.

This is really not true but ok. APS has some of the smallest class sizes for elementary school in the region. There are many things teachers can do (and some of them do it) including offering flexible seating arrangements and really just being more engaging and interesting and realistic about how little kids learn.

Elementary teachers tend to be women and sometimes women without a whole lot of classroom experience. The educational model for this age completely favors girls and a lot of these women don't like boys and it's very obvious.

The SCHOOLS are overcrowded, not the classrooms, so there isn’t sufficient outdoor space to rotate the school population through limited outdoor space.

And at our APS school, our class sizes are about 5 students larger than APS average, about 27.

You could run a classroom of 8-year olds ragged with nothing more than a couple of balls and a patch of concrete. With a bit of creativity you don’t even need the balls.

But you don’t even need that. Ask the preschool teachers - just letting the kids shake their limbs and wiggle in place can get the job done. We don’t need to spend a million dollars to allow kids to move.

Wait I’m sorry are we talking about recess time or instruction/learning time? I’m all for more recess time — we liked how APS had two recesses in kinder for example.

But it’s not tenable now, you are looking at the capacity which includes trailers, which use field space and don’t include added outdoor equipment for the expanded population. Same reason my 3rd grader had a 10am lunch.

Both. Kids need to move ALL DAY. Expecting a kid to sit like a middle age office drone is insane.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There are all boys schools all over the world, including some very prestigious ones here, and the teachers seem to manage fine. It’s my experience that the teachers who work with a lot of boys tend to recognize that kids have a biological need to move more and do better on concentration when they have the chance to move more. Not just boys or even young boys, but all kids. Girls tend to manage unrealistic and unnatural expectations better but that doesn’t make them any more realistic or natural.

Oh yeah private school boys schools are exactly like public school. The boys are going to take all the teachers attention, and I guess run around the room will be the norm. APS schools are not built to allow the amount of movement you describe, most are overcrowded and have limited outdoor space in our urban county.

This is really not true but ok. APS has some of the smallest class sizes for elementary school in the region. There are many things teachers can do (and some of them do it) including offering flexible seating arrangements and really just being more engaging and interesting and realistic about how little kids learn.

Elementary teachers tend to be women and sometimes women without a whole lot of classroom experience. The educational model for this age completely favors girls and a lot of these women don't like boys and it's very obvious.

The SCHOOLS are overcrowded, not the classrooms, so there isn’t sufficient outdoor space to rotate the school population through limited outdoor space.

And at our APS school, our class sizes are about 5 students larger than APS average, about 27.

You could run a classroom of 8-year olds ragged with nothing more than a couple of balls and a patch of concrete. With a bit of creativity you don’t even need the balls.

But you don’t even need that. Ask the preschool teachers - just letting the kids shake their limbs and wiggle in place can get the job done. We don’t need to spend a million dollars to allow kids to move.

Wait I’m sorry are we talking about recess time or instruction/learning time? I’m all for more recess time — we liked how APS had two recesses in kinder for example.

But it’s not tenable now, you are looking at the capacity which includes trailers, which use field space and don’t include added outdoor equipment for the expanded population. Same reason my 3rd grader had a 10am lunch.

Both. Kids need to move ALL DAY. Expecting a kid to sit like a middle age office drone is insane.

I am a middle aged office drone and I am not capable of sitting still all day. I take frequent movement breaks.

[Anonymous]

Our 4th grade cohort is like this and has been since they were in K (the ratio has improved a bit over the years as kids have come and gone, but it's still out of whack - I'd say at least 60%). And a bunch of the kids (boys and girls) were impacted in preschool due to Covid closures/changes, which clearly had some effects socially and on school readiness. The school seems to be doing the best they can, and some teachers have handled it better than others, but it's a bit of a crazy group. Some parents (especially girl parents) get spun up about it, but I'm not really sure what they think they're going to change - the group of enrolled students is what it is.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Oh geez. This is not a problem, OP.

Typical APS. So your class has 15 boys and 10 girls (assuming a class of 25). Those 3 extra boys really are a non issue.

You have your panties in a wad for no reason. Your little princess will survive

There are 50% more boys than girls.

So??

[Anonymous]

60% is NBD, OP. That's just normal variation.

[Anonymous]

Interesting. In our APS school, there are more girls than boys in 4th grade. It’s like 60% girls. But I think it’s only this grade.