Less discussed issues with Title 1 HS

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This happens. We are in APS and I just saw posts saying people are upset about AP conflicts. But if there isn't another section of the class being offered, I'm not sure what you want them to do? What do the FRL kids have to do with this issue?

Statistically FARMS students take way fewer AP classes and fewer of them attend college. These are just facts. So a school with a higher FARMS population will have fewer students requesting AP classes, resulting in fewer of that class being offered. Ie: a Title 1 school might have one section of each AP class it offers. Whereas a wealthy school of the same size might have 3-4+ sections of the same AP class offered. It gives much more scheduling flexibility.

[Anonymous]

I just saw a post from a parent about Washington-Liberty in Arlington where AP Physics C and AP Biology are being offered during the same period and their senior is very upset that they can't take both classes. W-L's a huge and affluent public high school. Scheduling issues happen. I don't think it's about being a Title 1 school at all.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I just saw a post from a parent about Washington-Liberty in Arlington where AP Physics C and AP Biology are being offered during the same period and their senior is very upset that they can't take both classes. W-L's a huge and affluent public high school. Scheduling issues happen. I don't think it's about being a Title 1 school at all.

Taking two different high level AP science classes concurrently is unusual for any high school, but it does happen. For each class, there is a ton of homework, lab work, exam reqs, etc. That said, it is an unfortunate scheduling conflict.

At Stuyvesant, Bronx Science, or TJHSST, scheduling such classes concurrently may not be as uncommon.

[Anonymous]

My child is a rising senior who attends (an expensive) private school where 100% of the graduates go to college, and he had two schedule conflicts for the upcoming year. Grass isn't always greener.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Our elementary went from 30% to 65% from 2021 to now. It is not the same school.

That’s astonishing. In such a short time span? Shift in boundaries at all? Which county?

So did mine. Terrible answer but it was because an apartment complex opened in our area. Our school went from a 7 to a 1. Elementary schools are very small (500 kids?) so new public housing easily overwhelms them. Luckily the middle and high are still excellent. Hoping to hang on that long. We feel very invisible. Teachers are overwhelmed as well.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My child is a rising senior who attends (an expensive) private school where 100% of the graduates go to college, and he had two schedule conflicts for the upcoming year. Grass isn't always greener.

Your school probably was willing to discuss options with you though, and tried to get things sorted before the first day.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This happens. We are in APS and I just saw posts saying people are upset about AP conflicts. But if there isn't another section of the class being offered, I'm not sure what you want them to do? What do the FRL kids have to do with this issue?

As I understand it the school has no interest in fixing scheduling issues, or offering additional classes, because they are too busy with other problems, and other support. A college will only see which classes are offered, not that it was impossible to take them. You could explain, but it puts you at a disadvantage.

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[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Our elementary went from 30% to 65% from 2021 to now. It is not the same school.

That’s astonishing. In such a short time span? Shift in boundaries at all? Which county?

So did mine. Terrible answer but it was because an apartment complex opened in our area. Our school went from a 7 to a 1. Elementary schools are very small (500 kids?) so new public housing easily overwhelms them. Luckily the middle and high are still excellent. Hoping to hang on that long. We feel very invisible. Teachers are overwhelmed as well.

Thanks for your honest answer. That’s a huge dive… I’m sorry.
And that is one reason why the persistent push for ever increasing density is so thoughtless - especially when the schools were already overwhelmed or overcrowded - they are just making it worse!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I just saw a post from a parent about Washington-Liberty in Arlington where AP Physics C and AP Biology are being offered during the same period and their senior is very upset that they can't take both classes. W-L's a huge and affluent public high school. Scheduling issues happen. I don't think it's about being a Title 1 school at all.

Is W-L considered affluent with 25-30% (?) FRL?

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Anonymous wrote:which school district?

LCPS

Oh I didn’t expect this answer. LCPS is very large and has many great schools. So was this a very gradual change? What do you attribute it to?

I’m sorry your school is failing you. I honestly feel that happens more and more when demographics tip to a certain poverty level in combination with other factors (lazy leadership, bad hiring decisions, overwhelming accumulation of parents with issues…. and more)

You should move your 9th grader… what are your options?

There is only one title 1 high school in LCPS and it is Park View. If that is not OP’s school she is not truly at a title 1 high school.

OP here. We are not at Park View but very close to it and our school is now eligible for Title 1 status (anything over 40% is eligible), per the principal. He has thus far declined the official designation because he is worried about the effect the designation will have on the school and how many families who can leave will. He's right to be worried about that.

No that is goofy. And if it’s true then the reason the school is struggling is because he refuses the title 1 designation that would allot additional funds to hire more staff to help absorb some of these struggles. So either he’s not being truthful about being eligible for title 1 funds or he’s being belligerent about accepting the school is title 1 and it is causing issues because it isn’t receiving the funding it needs. I am not sure that a principal can “decline” a title 1 designation either. That is likely not within his decision making matrix. Weird explanation all around.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I just saw a post from a parent about Washington-Liberty in Arlington where AP Physics C and AP Biology are being offered during the same period and their senior is very upset that they can't take both classes. W-L's a huge and affluent public high school. Scheduling issues happen. I don't think it's about being a Title 1 school at all.

Is W-L considered affluent with 25-30% (?) FRL?

W-L draws from pockets that are extraordinarily affluent as well as low income/subsidized. It’s not like your typical “low income” school where you have families who fall below the FRL threshold and the rest are barely above. And people intentionally seek to place their kids there and actively fight any attempt to rezone them to less crowded Yorktown.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:which school district?

LCPS

Oh I didn’t expect this answer. LCPS is very large and has many great schools. So was this a very gradual change? What do you attribute it to?

I’m sorry your school is failing you. I honestly feel that happens more and more when demographics tip to a certain poverty level in combination with other factors (lazy leadership, bad hiring decisions, overwhelming accumulation of parents with issues…. and more)

You should move your 9th grader… what are your options?

There is only one title 1 high school in LCPS and it is Park View. If that is not OP’s school she is not truly at a title 1 high school.

OP here. We are not at Park View but very close to it and our school is now eligible for Title 1 status (anything over 40% is eligible), per the principal. He has thus far declined the official designation because he is worried about the effect the designation will have on the school and how many families who can leave will. He's right to be worried about that.

I get this concern but it is idiotic to decline T1 status if you have that many low income kids. The money and resources you get as a T1 school would help them meet those needs, which would actually help them do a better job of serving the high achieving kids too. T1 money would allow them to hire more counselors and social workers, which means they could have counselors who were 100% dedicated to helping at risk kids graduate, feeling up other counselors to give a damn about the college bound kids too.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I just saw a post from a parent about Washington-Liberty in Arlington where AP Physics C and AP Biology are being offered during the same period and their senior is very upset that they can't take both classes. W-L's a huge and affluent public high school. Scheduling issues happen. I don't think it's about being a Title 1 school at all.

Is W-L considered affluent with 25-30% (?) FRL?

W-L draws from pockets that are extraordinarily affluent as well as low income/subsidized. It’s not like your typical “low income” school where you have families who fall below the FRL threshold and the rest are barely above. And people intentionally seek to place their kids there and actively fight any attempt to rezone them to less crowded Yorktown.

+1. There are mostly $1.5-5m homes in the school boundary, along with some apartments and condos.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I just saw a post from a parent about Washington-Liberty in Arlington where AP Physics C and AP Biology are being offered during the same period and their senior is very upset that they can't take both classes. W-L's a huge and affluent public high school. Scheduling issues happen. I don't think it's about being a Title 1 school at all.

Is W-L considered affluent with 25-30% (?) FRL?

W-L draws from pockets that are extraordinarily affluent as well as low income/subsidized. It’s not like your typical “low income” school where you have families who fall below the FRL threshold and the rest are barely above. And people intentionally seek to place their kids there and actively fight any attempt to rezone them to less crowded Yorktown.

I am the OP and this is the same at our school and I think somewhat common in this area - having 30-40% low income, some middle class, and then another 30-40% of families in the $300k+ category (like dual Feds and above.)