I am Luis Fernandez - of Woodley suspension (in)famy

[Anonymous]

*rec leagues* (not ref)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This statement is not doing you any favors. Scanning children’s bodies? Appalling.

This is a substantive criticism. Thank you.

I should note that the part of my account that addresses this is here: Woodley Suspension>Luis' Account>Noticing the Boy

My characterization is a little bit different, but the difference and the context is important.

[Anonymous]

“ On a deeper level, I consider it a profound abuse to confuse children about their sex.“

Nobody sets out to convince their kid that they are the wrong gender. They way it happens is that the kid feels differently and wants to express what they feel, not what they’ve been told they are. Most of the time parents are confused at first but realize that their love and acceptance of their child is more important than what our society deems is an appropriate expression of gender (ie short hair for boys and long hair for girls, skirts and dresses only for girls—-this is all societal and not biological). That parents support their child is not the same as deliberately confusing a child. Some people might say that NOT accepting a child for who they want to be is the abuse.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I read your statement. You’re a creep.

+1 harassing kids is not welcome at my pool. You and other creeps, please stay away.

Neither of these statements have any substance or engage substantively with what I've written.
- If I'm a creep, I'd like to know why?
- If I harassed kids, what part of the account shows me harassing a child?

You ruined a casual child's event and embarrassed the child. By continuing to make this an issue you are inviting an internet mob of the worst people possible on a place you claim to care about. I'd bet anything the pool you claim to care about has received threats because of how you chose to platform your message. Think about who solicited by who you gave interviews to. Think about what impact that has on the people, often teenagers who work there. Over a casual swim race.

A low level casual event is not an appropriate place to start gender policing. Forcing kids out of casual spaces results is making families of trans kids afraid and tells those kids there is no place in society for them. But not just trans kids, it also results in harassment of cis women and girls because they have short hair or big shoulders (which are both common things for swimmers). I won't have any part of it.

So yes, I view you as a creep, a person who has chosen to bring harm and harassment to people over a casual child's event. You should be ashamed of yourself.

[Anonymous]

I’m starting to wonder if this is all some sort of attention grab. Who goes onto an anonymous forum to continue to push their narrative - and with a strange post title with “infamy”.

[Anonymous]

While I agree with your concern for competitive-level sports, the Woodley Mini Meet is as recreation level as you can get. They even have a kick board event for kids that can’t swim the length of the pool. Rec level sports should be fun for kids and should be a place where children get to participate, regardless of skill level. I don’t see the harm in letting a trans kid swim with the gender of their choosing.

Now, these children and families may have to face hard decisions if they decide swimming is their main sport and want to compete at more advanced level.

But for the Woodley Mini Meet — let the kids just have fun for goodness sakes.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I read your statement. You’re a creep.

+1 harassing kids is not welcome at my pool. You and other creeps, please stay away.

Neither of these statements have any substance or engage substantively with what I've written.
- If I'm a creep, I'd like to know why?
- If I harassed kids, what part of the account shows me harassing a child?

You ruined a casual child's event and embarrassed the child. By continuing to make this an issue you are inviting an internet mob of the worst people possible on a place you claim to care about. I'd bet anything the pool you claim to care about has received threats because of how you chose to platform your message. Think about who solicited by who you gave interviews to. Think about what impact that has on the people, often teenagers who work there. Over a casual swim race.

A low level casual event is not an appropriate place to start gender policing. Forcing kids out of casual spaces results is making families of trans kids afraid and tells those kids there is no place in society for them. But not just trans kids, it also results in harassment of cis women and girls because they have short hair or big shoulders (which are both common things for swimmers). I won't have any part of it.

So yes, I view you as a creep, a person who has chosen to bring harm and harassment to people over a casual child's event. You should be ashamed of yourself.

I have no dog in this fight, but this poster sums it up nicely.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I read your statement. You’re a creep.

+1 harassing kids is not welcome at my pool. You and other creeps, please stay away.

Neither of these statements have any substance or engage substantively with what I've written.
- If I'm a creep, I'd like to know why?
- If I harassed kids, what part of the account shows me harassing a child?

You ruined a casual child's event and embarrassed the child. By continuing to make this an issue you are inviting an internet mob of the worst people possible on a place you claim to care about. I'd bet anything the pool you claim to care about has received threats because of how you chose to platform your message. Think about who solicited by who you gave interviews to. Think about what impact that has on the people, often teenagers who work there. Over a casual swim race.

A low level casual event is not an appropriate place to start gender policing. Forcing kids out of casual spaces results is making families of trans kids afraid and tells those kids there is no place in society for them. But not just trans kids, it also results in harassment of cis women and girls because they have short hair or big shoulders (which are both common things for swimmers). I won't have any part of it.

So yes, I view you as a creep, a person who has chosen to bring harm and harassment to people over a casual child's event. You should be ashamed of yourself.

I applaud you and agree with everything you have said.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I read your statement. You’re a creep.

+1 harassing kids is not welcome at my pool. You and other creeps, please stay away.

Neither of these statements have any substance or engage substantively with what I've written.
- If I'm a creep, I'd like to know why?
- If I harassed kids, what part of the account shows me harassing a child?

You ruined a casual child's event and embarrassed the child. By continuing to make this an issue you are inviting an internet mob of the worst people possible on a place you claim to care about. I'd bet anything the pool you claim to care about has received threats because of how you chose to platform your message. Think about who solicited by who you gave interviews to. Think about what impact that has on the people, often teenagers who work there. Over a casual swim race.

A low level casual event is not an appropriate place to start gender policing. Forcing kids out of casual spaces results is making families of trans kids afraid and tells those kids there is no place in society for them. But not just trans kids, it also results in harassment of cis women and girls because they have short hair or big shoulders (which are both common things for swimmers). I won't have any part of it.

So yes, I view you as a creep, a person who has chosen to bring harm and harassment to people over a casual child's event. You should be ashamed of yourself.

I applaud you and agree with everything you have said.

+1 the man's own description of what he did makes me so sad for that child. I would want my pool to kick him out.

[Anonymous]

Op, your call to action in your post is to contact NVSL, but what does NVSL have to do with this mini meet. It wasn’t an NVSL meet. While your local pool chose to use NVSL rules, if I chose to use NBA rules for my driveway basketball game it doesn’t make it a NBA game.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I read your statement. You’re a creep.

+1 harassing kids is not welcome at my pool. You and other creeps, please stay away.

Neither of these statements have any substance or engage substantively with what I've written.
- If I'm a creep, I'd like to know why?
- If I harassed kids, what part of the account shows me harassing a child?

You ruined a casual child's event and embarrassed the child. By continuing to make this an issue you are inviting an internet mob of the worst people possible on a place you claim to care about. I'd bet anything the pool you claim to care about has received threats because of how you chose to platform your message. Think about who solicited by who you gave interviews to. Think about what impact that has on the people, often teenagers who work there. Over a casual swim race.

A low level casual event is not an appropriate place to start gender policing. Forcing kids out of casual spaces results is making families of trans kids afraid and tells those kids there is no place in society for them. But not just trans kids, it also results in harassment of cis women and girls because they have short hair or big shoulders (which are both common things for swimmers). I won't have any part of it.

So yes, I view you as a creep, a person who has chosen to bring harm and harassment to people over a casual child's event. You should be ashamed of yourself.

I applaud you and agree with everything you have said.

+1 the man's own description of what he did makes me so sad for that child. I would want my pool to kick him out.

+1

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I read your statement. You’re a creep.

+1 harassing kids is not welcome at my pool. You and other creeps, please stay away.

Neither of these statements have any substance or engage substantively with what I've written.
- If I'm a creep, I'd like to know why?
- If I harassed kids, what part of the account shows me harassing a child?

You ruined a casual child's event and embarrassed the child. By continuing to make this an issue you are inviting an internet mob of the worst people possible on a place you claim to care about. I'd bet anything the pool you claim to care about has received threats because of how you chose to platform your message. Think about who solicited by who you gave interviews to. Think about what impact that has on the people, often teenagers who work there. Over a casual swim race.

A low level casual event is not an appropriate place to start gender policing. Forcing kids out of casual spaces results is making families of trans kids afraid and tells those kids there is no place in society for them. But not just trans kids, it also results in harassment of cis women and girls because they have short hair or big shoulders (which are both common things for swimmers). I won't have any part of it.

So yes, I view you as a creep, a person who has chosen to bring harm and harassment to people over a casual child's event. You should be ashamed of yourself.

I have no dog in this fight, but this poster sums it up nicely.

There is a place in society. Simply swim with the boys team. It’s casual, right?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I read your statement. You’re a creep.

+1 harassing kids is not welcome at my pool. You and other creeps, please stay away.

Neither of these statements have any substance or engage substantively with what I've written.
- If I'm a creep, I'd like to know why?
- If I harassed kids, what part of the account shows me harassing a child?

You ruined a casual child's event and embarrassed the child. By continuing to make this an issue you are inviting an internet mob of the worst people possible on a place you claim to care about. I'd bet anything the pool you claim to care about has received threats because of how you chose to platform your message. Think about who solicited by who you gave interviews to. Think about what impact that has on the people, often teenagers who work there. Over a casual swim race.

A low level casual event is not an appropriate place to start gender policing. Forcing kids out of casual spaces results is making families of trans kids afraid and tells those kids there is no place in society for them. But not just trans kids, it also results in harassment of cis women and girls because they have short hair or big shoulders (which are both common things for swimmers). I won't have any part of it.

So yes, I view you as a creep, a person who has chosen to bring harm and harassment to people over a casual child's event. You should be ashamed of yourself.

I have no dog in this fight, but this poster sums it up nicely.

Another poster here who agrees. Also agree with the separate poster questioning ‘who comes onto an anonymous forum and uses words like infamy to describe themselves’

You should ask Jeff to delete this thread. You will not win anyone over here. Maybe try truth social is a better audience for you?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I’m starting to wonder if this is all some sort of attention grab. Who goes onto an anonymous forum to continue to push their narrative - and with a strange post title with “infamy”.

It did seem like anyone who does this is doing it for publicity and to get on the right wing fame/grift train but agree this just confirms it.

Sorry/not sorry if it hasn’t worked out for you like you want. Maybe you can still start a gofundme for “lawyers fees” or “family support” or something.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I read your statement. You’re a creep.

+1 harassing kids is not welcome at my pool. You and other creeps, please stay away.

Neither of these statements have any substance or engage substantively with what I've written.
- If I'm a creep, I'd like to know why?
- If I harassed kids, what part of the account shows me harassing a child?

You ruined a casual child's event and embarrassed the child. By continuing to make this an issue you are inviting an internet mob of the worst people possible on a place you claim to care about. I'd bet anything the pool you claim to care about has received threats because of how you chose to platform your message. Think about who solicited by who you gave interviews to. Think about what impact that has on the people, often teenagers who work there. Over a casual swim race.

A low level casual event is not an appropriate place to start gender policing. Forcing kids out of casual spaces results is making families of trans kids afraid and tells those kids there is no place in society for them. But not just trans kids, it also results in harassment of cis women and girls because they have short hair or big shoulders (which are both common things for swimmers). I won't have any part of it.

So yes, I view you as a creep, a person who has chosen to bring harm and harassment to people over a casual child's event. You should be ashamed of yourself.

I have no dog in this fight, but this poster sums it up nicely.

There is a place in society. Simply swim with the boys team. It’s casual, right?

These types of arguments are pathetic. The fact that it’s casual means that the competitive stakes are low. Meanwhile at a low stakes event, a child is harmed by an immature adult. The adult can leave the pool.