Another case of autoimmune driven brain disorder

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I work in the field and I think we are really at the beginning of our understanding of the connection between autoimmune issues and mental health. There was a Wash Po article a few years ago about another woman with schizophrenia who was cured when her lupus was controlled. Just like the gut-brain axis research, I think we are going to be seeing a lot of these disorders very differently in the next few decades.

I don't know of any psychiatrists who are using gut brain axis research in their practice

That sounds like a you problem.

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33087514/

You linked a research study as an attempt to show practicing psychiatrists utilize get-brian axis with patients???????.?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My brother was recently diagnosed with schizophrenia after suddenly becoming aware after many years. he’s taking just a mood stabilizer now. I wonder if he suddenly became better, like Mary in the New Yorker article, because he took meds for gout. Soon after, he has insight into his behavior, and immense regret and depression,

Im sorry your brother suffered from schizophrenia but im happy to hear of his improvements.
Chatgpt has some theories about why someone with schizophrenia might improve after having Gout. Unfortunately this website won't allow me to paste the response here. Basically it thought about immune and inflammatory response, uric acid associated a neuroprotective agent, that both gout and schizophrenia are related to purine metabolism abnormalities and that gout medication drugs might have helped.

Very fascinating. I hope your brother continues to improve his mood and that research begins to catch up

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I work in the field and I think we are really at the beginning of our understanding of the connection between autoimmune issues and mental health. There was a Wash Po article a few years ago about another woman with schizophrenia who was cured when her lupus was controlled. Just like the gut-brain axis research, I think we are going to be seeing a lot of these disorders very differently in the next few decades.

I don't know of any psychiatrists who are using gut brain axis research in their practice

That sounds like a you problem.

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33087514/

You linked a research study as an attempt to show practicing psychiatrists utilize get-brian axis with patients???????.?

You are the only person on this thread talking about practicing psychiatrists, you brought it up out of nowhere and it wasn't relevant to PP's point, which was about RESEARCH. That's what this entire thread is about.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I work in the field and I think we are really at the beginning of our understanding of the connection between autoimmune issues and mental health. There was a Wash Po article a few years ago about another woman with schizophrenia who was cured when her lupus was controlled. Just like the gut-brain axis research, I think we are going to be seeing a lot of these disorders very differently in the next few decades.

I don't know of any psychiatrists who are using gut brain axis research in their practice

That sounds like a you problem.

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33087514/

You linked a research study as an attempt to show practicing psychiatrists utilize get-brian axis with patients???????.?

You are the only person on this thread talking about practicing psychiatrists, you brought it up out of nowhere and it wasn't relevant to PP's point, which was about RESEARCH. That's what this entire thread is about.

No. The pp literally says
I don't know of any psychiatrists who are using gut brain axis research in their practice
Sorry about your reading comprehension problem.
They were pointing out the chasm between what research and practice.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I work in the field and I think we are really at the beginning of our understanding of the connection between autoimmune issues and mental health. There was a Wash Po article a few years ago about another woman with schizophrenia who was cured when her lupus was controlled. Just like the gut-brain axis research, I think we are going to be seeing a lot of these disorders very differently in the next few decades.

I don't know of any psychiatrists who are using gut brain axis research in their practice

That sounds like a you problem.

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33087514/

You linked a research study as an attempt to show practicing psychiatrists utilize get-brian axis with patients???????.?

You are the only person on this thread talking about practicing psychiatrists, you brought it up out of nowhere and it wasn't relevant to PP's point, which was about RESEARCH. That's what this entire thread is about.

No. The pp literally says
I don't know of any psychiatrists who are using gut brain axis research in their practice
Sorry about your reading comprehension problem.
They were pointing out the chasm between what research and practice.

Again, you are the only person here, in a thread about research, blathering about practice. Regardless, the study is relevant because that's how the system works. Research is conducted, physicians stay up to date on the latest breakthroughs in order to inform their practice. But something tells me you don't understand a lot about the system.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I work in the field and I think we are really at the beginning of our understanding of the connection between autoimmune issues and mental health. There was a Wash Po article a few years ago about another woman with schizophrenia who was cured when her lupus was controlled. Just like the gut-brain axis research, I think we are going to be seeing a lot of these disorders very differently in the next few decades.

I don't know of any psychiatrists who are using gut brain axis research in their practice

That sounds like a you problem.

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33087514/

You linked a research study as an attempt to show practicing psychiatrists utilize get-brian axis with patients???????.?

You are the only person on this thread talking about practicing psychiatrists, you brought it up out of nowhere and it wasn't relevant to PP's point, which was about RESEARCH. That's what this entire thread is about.

No. The pp literally says
I don't know of any psychiatrists who are using gut brain axis research in their practice
Sorry about your reading comprehension problem.
They were pointing out the chasm between what research and practice.

If you can't get your point across without insulting another poster you don't have much of a point.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I work in the field and I think we are really at the beginning of our understanding of the connection between autoimmune issues and mental health. There was a Wash Po article a few years ago about another woman with schizophrenia who was cured when her lupus was controlled. Just like the gut-brain axis research, I think we are going to be seeing a lot of these disorders very differently in the next few decades.

I don't know of any psychiatrists who are using gut brain axis research in their practice

That sounds like a you problem.

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33087514/

You linked a research study as an attempt to show practicing psychiatrists utilize get-brian axis with patients???????.?

Is this better?????????????
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC8560095/

Or this????????????????
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-025-86858-3

Or this????????
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0278584624001416

How about a website from an actual psychiatrist explaining how he incorporates gut brain axis in his work???????????
https://vibrant-wellness.com/podcast/084-james-greenblatt?utm_term=&utm_campaign=Competitor+PMAX&utm_source=adwords&utm_medium=ppc&hsa_acc=7421601709&hsa_cam=22509343627&hsa_grp=&hsa_ad=&hsa_src=x&hsa_tgt=&hsa_kw=&hsa_mt=&hsa_net=adwords&hsa_ver=3&gad_source=1&gad_campaignid=22509344560&gbraid=0AAAAABP32TmqvZwamXhO8L2eX8nR5Bj17&gclid=CjwKCAjwkbzEBhAVEiwA4V-yqngLn0H5gZD4N9BbELQBC6RyYFNS6rEM2MCM0HCrlVaYKv4jlSn2XhoCYjgQAvD_BwE


Or this, literally about the clinical applicability of the gut brain axis in psychiatry?????
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC7583027/

[Anonymous]

Lot of either laymen with google MDs or woefully out of date practitioners in this thread. Not sure which is worse.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I work in the field and I think we are really at the beginning of our understanding of the connection between autoimmune issues and mental health. There was a Wash Po article a few years ago about another woman with schizophrenia who was cured when her lupus was controlled. Just like the gut-brain axis research, I think we are going to be seeing a lot of these disorders very differently in the next few decades.

I don't know of any psychiatrists who are using gut brain axis research in their practice

That sounds like a you problem.

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33087514/

You linked a research study as an attempt to show practicing psychiatrists utilize get-brian axis with patients???????.?

You are the only person on this thread talking about practicing psychiatrists, you brought it up out of nowhere and it wasn't relevant to PP's point, which was about RESEARCH. That's what this entire thread is about.

No. The pp literally says
I don't know of any psychiatrists who are using gut brain axis research in their practice
Sorry about your reading comprehension problem.
They were pointing out the chasm between what research and practice.

Again, you are the only person here, in a thread about research, blathering about practice. Regardless, the study is relevant because that's how the system works. Research is conducted, physicians stay up to date on the latest breakthroughs in order to inform their practice. But something tells me you don't understand a lot about the system.

Can you actually stop hijacking threads wirh your personal feelings. I assume youre the same person who is constantly trashing these threads and making it hard to read.

[Anonymous]

I'm the pp who said most mental disorders are physical - and science will come to understand that soon. I'm not the one arguing about fecal transplants. Schizophrenia is exactly what I am talking about - and bipolar disorders too - are physical disorders caused by autoimmunity and or viruses/bacteria. Did anyone else listen to that fascinating podcast about how for so many years, scientists laughed at the guy who insisted some cancers are caused by viruses? And then somehow, they realized he was right? Now we have a vaccine for cervical cancer...

[Anonymous]

For more than 100 years, biologists who suggested that some cancers may be caused by viruses were the pariahs of genetics. However, they persevered and incrementally built their knowledge, leading to the discovery of retroviruses, the development of a test to diagnose HIV, and the creation of the HPV vaccine. Join us as we interview Gregory J. Morgan about his book Cancer Virus Hunters: A History of Tumor Virology.

Maybe it was this one: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/cancer-virus-hunters-an-interview-with-gregory-j-morgan/id270428918?i=1000662400036

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I'm the pp who said most mental disorders are physical - and science will come to understand that soon. I'm not the one arguing about fecal transplants. Schizophrenia is exactly what I am talking about - and bipolar disorders too - are physical disorders caused by autoimmunity and or viruses/bacteria. Did anyone else listen to that fascinating podcast about how for so many years, scientists laughed at the guy who insisted some cancers are caused by viruses? And then somehow, they realized he was right? Now we have a vaccine for cervical cancer...

No surprise- look at thr history of scurvy.
2 million sailors died of scurvy between 1500 and 1700. But native americans knew pine needles cured it all along. The iroquois cured French explorer Jacques Cartier of his scurvy in the early 1500s and he documented it. But we went on for hundreds more years with millions dying of it because of the hubris of doctors.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm the pp who said most mental disorders are physical - and science will come to understand that soon. I'm not the one arguing about fecal transplants. Schizophrenia is exactly what I am talking about - and bipolar disorders too - are physical disorders caused by autoimmunity and or viruses/bacteria. Did anyone else listen to that fascinating podcast about how for so many years, scientists laughed at the guy who insisted some cancers are caused by viruses? And then somehow, they realized he was right? Now we have a vaccine for cervical cancer...

No surprise- look at thr history of scurvy.
2 million sailors died of scurvy between 1500 and 1700. But native americans knew pine needles cured it all along. The iroquois cured French explorer Jacques Cartier of his scurvy in the early 1500s and he documented it. But we went on for hundreds more years with millions dying of it because of the hubris of doctors.

This is why ai rocks for medical diagnosis. it will do deeper research if you ask it to and it has no ego.

The behavioral problems are *symptoms.* they aren't the disease.

[Anonymous]

I suffered from insomnia, depression, and anxiety for years. It was largely rooted in food intolerances. Chronic inflammation wrecked me until I figured it out. Docs won’t take it seriously. Especially the gastro.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I suffered from insomnia, depression, and anxiety for years. It was largely rooted in food intolerances. Chronic inflammation wrecked me until I figured it out. Docs won’t take it seriously. Especially the gastro.

Wow! That's really amazing that you were able to figure it out. Im sorry your were gaslit by your doctors. That makes it so much worse.
My son has some food intolerance issues that I think are histimine related but im afraid to even ask the doctors for any sort of tests.

I hope you continue feeling better!