Maryland Learners Permit Written Test Untimed and Reader?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Op here. Thank you all. We’ve contacted the mva for help. We said we needed extended time and a reader. Mva came back and offered a sign language interpreter. Sigh…. Clarification email going out asap.

Omg I’m cackling. It’s not funny obviously but I work in accessibility and this sort of crap happens so often. If I had a nickel for every time someone called and asked me for an ASL interpreter a blind client, I’d have … at least a dollar.

[Anonymous]

OP, my DC isn’t old enough yet, but thank you for asking this!

For those who are unaware, people with dyslexia often have very good spatial coordination. I honestly think my DC with dyslexia is going to be a good driver because they are incredibly conscientious, has good hand eye coordination and is eager for the privilege to drive. Oh, and they are 2E and have a high IQ.

Those who are making snide comments need to get over themselves. And, yes, that is why street signs are made easily legible and recognizable. Having dyslexia doesn’t mean you can’t read. Please educate yourself.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Op here. Thank you all. We’ve contacted the mva for help. We said we needed extended time and a reader. Mva came back and offered a sign language interpreter. Sigh…. Clarification email going out asap.

Omg I’m cackling. It’s not funny obviously but I work in accessibility and this sort of crap happens so often. If I had a nickel for every time someone called and asked me for an ASL interpreter a blind client, I’d have … at least a dollar.

Op here, Agreed. I'm not exactly sure how MDOT/MVA made the linkage between dyslexia and sign language. Maybe they used AI and it picked up on "reader"? haha Who knows. Your comment about an ASL interpreter for a blind client just makes me shake my head in disbelief, but I'm sure it happens a bunch. Sigh.... The world has come so far, but still has far to go in the accessibility world.

[Anonymous]

OP, MC has a special class, maybe that would help?

https://www.montgomerycollege.edu/workforce-development-continuing-education/transportation-safety/drivers-ed.html

Driver’s Education with Additional Support, SFT079
 This course provides the exact same MVA curriculum as SFT-123 Driver Education, but with built-in supports.
Montgomery College's Driving School and its instructors are Maryland MVA licensed and certified. Our additional support instructors are dually certified in Special Education. This course, in a small classroom environment, prepares rookie drivers to test for a Maryland driver’s license. Our 36-hour course consists of 10 three-hour classroom sessions, and 3 two-hour individual sessions using our own cars.

Students under 18 MUST be accompanied by a mentor (parent, guardian, etc.) to the first class/orientation session, and all students MUST bring their learner's permit to the first class/orientation session. Montgomery College educates mentors on how to manage the learning-to-drive experience through our mentor / parental involvement expectations, our 12 driver readiness indicators with self-assessments, and a collaborative approach between mentor and instructor(s).

Important Notice: Starting Summer 2023, all Driver Education students must attend the first class. Makeups will not be allowed for the first class. If a student misses the first class, then they have to re-start the course at a later date.

Additional Supports include, but are not limited to:

Differentiated instruction, supplemental aides and supports including a multi-sensory approach to learning.
Behind the wheel is one-on-one instruction with a dually certified MVA and MSDE Special Education Educator
Smaller class size
Quizzes and tests are read aloud
Extra time is granted to students for quizzes and tests
Manipulatives (toy cars) are used to better explain situations
A copy of all PowerPoints and instructor notes is provided to student
We hope to empower Parents, Special Educators and even Driver Education Instructors to be supportive by knowing:

The Driver Education Readiness Indicators. See Readiness Assessment form
Preparation activities parents/mentors can to facilitate the driver education experience.
Coping skills the student driver can do while learning to drive.
What should I do if I have a disability support request?

Register for a class
Call Natalie Martinez, Disability Support Services Counselor at 240-567-4118 or email [e-mail] at least four weeks prior to the start of class to arrange for accommodations and/or assistive technology. If this procedure is not followed, services may be delayed.
Please note that due to the nature of driver education, certain additional documentation may be requested.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:OP, MC has a special class, maybe that would help?

https://www.montgomerycollege.edu/workforce-development-continuing-education/transportation-safety/drivers-ed.html

Driver’s Education with Additional Support, SFT079
 This course provides the exact same MVA curriculum as SFT-123 Driver Education, but with built-in supports.
Montgomery College's Driving School and its instructors are Maryland MVA licensed and certified. Our additional support instructors are dually certified in Special Education. This course, in a small classroom environment, prepares rookie drivers to test for a Maryland driver’s license. Our 36-hour course consists of 10 three-hour classroom sessions, and 3 two-hour individual sessions using our own cars.

Students under 18 MUST be accompanied by a mentor (parent, guardian, etc.) to the first class/orientation session, and all students MUST bring their learner's permit to the first class/orientation session. Montgomery College educates mentors on how to manage the learning-to-drive experience through our mentor / parental involvement expectations, our 12 driver readiness indicators with self-assessments, and a collaborative approach between mentor and instructor(s).

Important Notice: Starting Summer 2023, all Driver Education students must attend the first class. Makeups will not be allowed for the first class. If a student misses the first class, then they have to re-start the course at a later date.

Additional Supports include, but are not limited to:

Differentiated instruction, supplemental aides and supports including a multi-sensory approach to learning.
Behind the wheel is one-on-one instruction with a dually certified MVA and MSDE Special Education Educator
Smaller class size
Quizzes and tests are read aloud
Extra time is granted to students for quizzes and tests
Manipulatives (toy cars) are used to better explain situations
A copy of all PowerPoints and instructor notes is provided to student
We hope to empower Parents, Special Educators and even Driver Education Instructors to be supportive by knowing:

The Driver Education Readiness Indicators. See Readiness Assessment form
Preparation activities parents/mentors can to facilitate the driver education experience.
Coping skills the student driver can do while learning to drive.
What should I do if I have a disability support request?

Register for a class
Call Natalie Martinez, Disability Support Services Counselor at 240-567-4118 or email [e-mail] at least four weeks prior to the start of class to arrange for accommodations and/or assistive technology. If this procedure is not followed, services may be delayed.
Please note that due to the nature of driver education, certain additional documentation may be requested.

WOW! This is fantastic! I had no idea about this potential course! Thank you for sharing!

[Anonymous]

Also FYI, not really for OP but for others: in Maryland, DORS will teach kids how to drive. (if they qualify for DORS, obviously - for instance if they have autism)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Also FYI, not really for OP but for others: in Maryland, DORS will teach kids how to drive. (if they qualify for DORS, obviously - for instance if they have autism)

I think the issue is more about passing the written test and getting through the course. Most of the courses are online so mom or dad could do it with them but the permit test. Its not that hard of a test but some of it is the luck of questions you get. MC is probably their best bet but don't know anything abotu it. I was looking for additional driving help and saw it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Also FYI, not really for OP but for others: in Maryland, DORS will teach kids how to drive. (if they qualify for DORS, obviously - for instance if they have autism)

I think the issue is more about passing the written test and getting through the course. Most of the courses are online so mom or dad could do it with them but the permit test. Its not that hard of a test but some of it is the luck of questions you get. MC is probably their best bet but don't know anything abotu it. I was looking for additional driving help and saw it.

OP here. Thank you all. We are in the midst of the online course and we (parents) are helping out with the coursework and helping scribe/take notes. It seems like the online training is following the curriculum 1:1. https://mva.maryland.gov/drivers/Pages/Driver-Education-Curriculum.aspx. This was also a helpful page with the https://mva.maryland.gov/drivers/Pages/driver-education.aspx how to log the behind the wheel hours.

For your information, the MDMVA does not offer a super-fast turnaround for accommodations. Be sure to build in time for this.

[Anonymous]

We know a teen in our family who has accommodations and has mild autism took the permit test in MD with accommodations. She is also taking this driving class. Her parents are taking a slower pace of road driving than her peers, but she is making progress. It is
Very important that if on medication that the teen considers when to be driving and when not to. You may also request addition paid hours of instruction if needed.

It is key to give the teen varied times and kinds of places to learn to drive in. Our daughter has taken her teens out to drive in less busy areas with less on street parking to learn the basics when first starting out.