False 8

[Anonymous]

They’re all U-little IG superstar kids who’ve never even touched 11v11—same faces, same footwork, all cloud-chasing.

[Anonymous]

They in today's post say they aren't creating futsal players.

So why do?

$$$$

https://www.instagram.com/p/DMKyiJgxKaI/?igsh=Y2MxZzl5ZDNuMHc5

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Just want to get some opinions on the current state of F8. I remember some time ago it was a great program. Now that is has grown, its become overly saturated and focused more on revenue through camps, merch, "coaching course", Futsal, etc. Sucks because Christian seems like a good person but money has become his priority contrary to his messages on player development. I stopped taking my kid because that reason. I have heard he wants to start his own club but I would steer clear, its one thing coaching and one thing training players. The coaches that work there lack experience, they are just there as support and probably get underpaid compared to the enrollment. The priority of F8 is to gain popularity off the backs of kids IG accounts, its a genius marketing plan but its essentially free marketing for them.

Its a solid program but very out of touch now, just wondering if there are some that also feel the same. Hes a good guy but if you truly want to get your moneys worth, work with a reputable private trainer, CR is a good marketing person by leveraging his playing experience(Pro in El Salvador, which is not that high) as the selling point. For example, Luciano Emilio has a club in MD and hes a MLS Golden boot winner, the only difference is that CR is better at marketing. Again, this is not to bash them, I just speak on my perspective and for players who want to get more of their moneys worth.

I agree. I really like the training that they give but I agree that it seems like their shift has become more on their social media. I wish they would go back to their old model and just focus on developing the kids and not these u-little influencers with the constant reposts

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Just want to get some opinions on the current state of F8. I remember some time ago it was a great program. Now that is has grown, its become overly saturated and focused more on revenue through camps, merch, "coaching course", Futsal, etc. Sucks because Christian seems like a good person but money has become his priority contrary to his messages on player development. I stopped taking my kid because that reason. I have heard he wants to start his own club but I would steer clear, its one thing coaching and one thing training players. The coaches that work there lack experience, they are just there as support and probably get underpaid compared to the enrollment. The priority of F8 is to gain popularity off the backs of kids IG accounts, its a genius marketing plan but its essentially free marketing for them.

Its a solid program but very out of touch now, just wondering if there are some that also feel the same. Hes a good guy but if you truly want to get your moneys worth, work with a reputable private trainer, CR is a good marketing person by leveraging his playing experience(Pro in El Salvador, which is not that high) as the selling point. For example, Luciano Emilio has a club in MD and hes a MLS Golden boot winner, the only difference is that CR is better at marketing. Again, this is not to bash them, I just speak on my perspective and for players who want to get more of their moneys worth.

My DC went the past couple of days. He enjoyed it. They definitely work them.

I suppose the bigger question is why throw shade? Your opinion is one thing, but then you name drop a “better option.” You say a pro in El Salvador “is not that high”, but in the global scheme of things, MLS is?

It seems a peculiar, out of the blue post, unless his growth is coming at the expense of your buddy Luciano.

In the end, coaches are doing their best to and hustle to make a living doing what they love. Let me know when you find former La Liga, Premier League, or Bundesliga player ready to coach at the same price point and I’ll join you.

OP here, it was not shade, they are facts. MLS is higher than ES , might not be La liga but I just used Luciano as a local example, he played during the same time as Beckham was in the league so...

It was not out of the blue, I have been hearing this from several parents, the IG kids and their interactions made his program well known not his "proven methodology". In a few years he will take the credit for those kids and say he developed them.

Another example ill use since you think Luciano is my "buddy", Futboltech out of NJ, they have developed several players to go play for Philly Union and USYNT, they dont obnoxiously try to get famous off the backs of IG Kids, that is being truely invested in player development without being a loud mouth.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:They in today's post say they aren't creating futsal players.

So why do?

$$$$

https://www.instagram.com/p/DMKyiJgxKaI/?igsh=Y2MxZzl5ZDNuMHc5

I think the common issue with futsal players is they exhibit tremendous mastery in that sport but then it fails to translate completely in outdoor play. I read this as they offer futsal as a component to enhance the attributes of a dominant outdoor/hybrid player.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Just want to get some opinions on the current state of F8. I remember some time ago it was a great program. Now that is has grown, its become overly saturated and focused more on revenue through camps, merch, "coaching course", Futsal, etc. Sucks because Christian seems like a good person but money has become his priority contrary to his messages on player development. I stopped taking my kid because that reason. I have heard he wants to start his own club but I would steer clear, its one thing coaching and one thing training players. The coaches that work there lack experience, they are just there as support and probably get underpaid compared to the enrollment. The priority of F8 is to gain popularity off the backs of kids IG accounts, its a genius marketing plan but its essentially free marketing for them.

Its a solid program but very out of touch now, just wondering if there are some that also feel the same. Hes a good guy but if you truly want to get your moneys worth, work with a reputable private trainer, CR is a good marketing person by leveraging his playing experience(Pro in El Salvador, which is not that high) as the selling point. For example, Luciano Emilio has a club in MD and hes a MLS Golden boot winner, the only difference is that CR is better at marketing. Again, this is not to bash them, I just speak on my perspective and for players who want to get more of their moneys worth.

My DC went the past couple of days. He enjoyed it. They definitely work them.

I suppose the bigger question is why throw shade? Your opinion is one thing, but then you name drop a “better option.” You say a pro in El Salvador “is not that high”, but in the global scheme of things, MLS is?

It seems a peculiar, out of the blue post, unless his growth is coming at the expense of your buddy Luciano.

In the end, coaches are doing their best to and hustle to make a living doing what they love. Let me know when you find former La Liga, Premier League, or Bundesliga player ready to coach at the same price point and I’ll join you.

OP here, it was not shade, they are facts. MLS is higher than ES , might not be La liga but I just used Luciano as a local example, he played during the same time as Beckham was in the league so...

It was not out of the blue, I have been hearing this from several parents, the IG kids and their interactions made his program well known not his "proven methodology". In a few years he will take the credit for those kids and say he developed them.

Another example ill use since you think Luciano is my "buddy", Futboltech out of NJ, they have developed several players to go play for Philly Union and USYNT, they dont obnoxiously try to get famous off the backs of IG Kids, that is being truely invested in player development without being a loud mouth.

Futboltech is a guest factory for ig kids. Bad example. Futboltech type of teams playing at Jeff cup should cease existing, it makes no sense.

[Anonymous]

Futboltech out of NJ absolutely tries to get famous off the backs of IG kids, and in fact, invites False 8 players from DMV to guest for them in tournaments to ensure success which it markets heavily on IG.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Futboltech out of NJ absolutely tries to get famous off the backs of IG kids, and in fact, invites False 8 players from DMV to guest for them in tournaments to ensure success which it markets heavily on IG.

Most of those kids have been guest playing with Futboltech since before false8 even existed

[Anonymous]

This is absolutely a pay to play issue, as a former trainer I can easily run a session and get 10 kids to pay 35-50 and pocket the money and make them tired with the intensity, or tout 1000 touches in an hour. Kids will be marginally better at the end of multiple sessions if they started at a low level. OR I can charge $100 and really work with 1 or 2 skilled kids and actually correct bad habits, teach practical game skills etc and the kid will get better quickly. Which one would you pick if your trying to make money?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This is absolutely a pay to play issue, as a former trainer I can easily run a session and get 10 kids to pay 35-50 and pocket the money and make them tired with the intensity, or tout 1000 touches in an hour. Kids will be marginally better at the end of multiple sessions if they started at a low level. OR I can charge $100 and really work with 1 or 2 skilled kids and actually correct bad habits, teach practical game skills etc and the kid will get better quickly. Which one would you pick if your trying to make money?

This is why its so hard to find a good trainer, its more about volume of kids they train.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is absolutely a pay to play issue, as a former trainer I can easily run a session and get 10 kids to pay 35-50 and pocket the money and make them tired with the intensity, or tout 1000 touches in an hour. Kids will be marginally better at the end of multiple sessions if they started at a low level. OR I can charge $100 and really work with 1 or 2 skilled kids and actually correct bad habits, teach practical game skills etc and the kid will get better quickly. Which one would you pick if your trying to make money?

This is why its so hard to find a good trainer, its more about volume of kids they train.

Not trying to be a smart ass, but quantify good, then ask yourself “how much am I willing to pay?”

The poster above is spot on. Group training is essentially another team practice, but with kids from different teams.

The best investment is individual (1-2 kids) training to correct bad habits, introduce new, good ones, and to push kids to use football intelligence.