Why so many futsal "nationals"?

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And futsal is not indoor soccer. (well, it shouldn't be)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:And futsal is not indoor soccer. (well, it shouldn't be)

True. That reference looks outdated as well.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Never really considered the injury risk perspective (other than lack of time off), but apparently that is a thing?

A top YNT caliber player in our area tore her ACL as freshman last winter during futsal. Of course this could happen anywhere/anytime, but is it more likely with fustal due to the playing conditions?

This is the PP...
Another sobering statistic:

The incidence of injuries among youth soccer players (under age 16) participating in indoor soccer was 4.5 times that of youth players in outdoor soccer when calculated per 100 hours of team play, and 6.1 times greater when calculated per 100 hours of player game participation. Injuries were few among players under age 10 in either game, and the number of injuries increased with age in the older players. Medical assist ance was required for 6.5% of the injuries among outdoor players and for 24.3% among indoor players. Overall, 66.6% of the injuries were the result of physical contact between players. No relationship was observed between the risk of injury and playing position, conduct of warm-up exercises, or the team having a licensed coach.

It's a thing here to play rugby futsal

That's not played anywhere else

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Never really considered the injury risk perspective (other than lack of time off), but apparently that is a thing?

A top YNT caliber player in our area tore her ACL as freshman last winter during futsal. Of course this could happen anywhere/anytime, but is it more likely with fustal due to the playing conditions?

This is the PP...
Another sobering statistic:

The incidence of injuries among youth soccer players (under age 16) participating in indoor soccer was 4.5 times that of youth players in outdoor soccer when calculated per 100 hours of team play, and 6.1 times greater when calculated per 100 hours of player game participation. Injuries were few among players under age 10 in either game, and the number of injuries increased with age in the older players. Medical assist ance was required for 6.5% of the injuries among outdoor players and for 24.3% among indoor players. Overall, 66.6% of the injuries were the result of physical contact between players. No relationship was observed between the risk of injury and playing position, conduct of warm-up exercises, or the team having a licensed coach.

Thanks for looking it up/sharing

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Beyond the regional tournaments at the end of the winter futsal season, all of the hype about "national" futsal tournaments is just that -- hype. These aren't national tournaments, just summer tournaments where regional winners get automatic acceptance (but still end up competing against random teams that haven't won anything). It's a money grab.

The names and titles of the tournaments aren't important
Are the kids playing futsal and getting in quality time for improvement?

The kids absolutely are getting quality time and improving. But it does come at a cost... burn out, expensive flight/ hotel to attend & court injuries. I know families that have attended 3 fly away tournaments this summer for their U-Little player. Those players are on top teams, they have big aspirations to play high level. I just got to wonder about the drawbacks down the road.

There is a saying, "Behind every highly successful youth athlete, you can find an overly driven parent." I think futsal is good for development fore some players, but in a lot of cases the juice just can't be worth the squeeze for most players.

Comes at a cost to who?
The parents are voluntarily going and spending their money that they apparently can afford.
--This is true. But 1 point essentially is that the more parents spend, the more futsal events/ national tournaments that will pop-up. I don't think this is worn and/ or you can't really do anything about this.

Kids can get injured anywhere. Futsal doesn't allow the same body contact as outside.
--After age 10, kids are more likely to get injured in futsal largely due to the close proximity of players colliding with each other...the number of ankle sprains seem to be a key area as well.

Whats the burn-out measuring stick?

--I don't think you can have a 'de-facto' measuring stick. Just that most sports psychologists can easily point to 4 points that will lead to burn-out and quitting (FYI, some 65-70% of kids, quit sports by age 13) 1.) Not enough time off from their primary sport... it's recommended kids get 2 months off in a 12 month period... futsal doesn't allow for that at all when combined with outdoor. 2.) Concentrating/ specializing on one sport. 3.) Lack of Enjoyment by being put in too many high pressutre situations 4.) Family dynamics where competency in sport is the primary focus tied self worth.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Beyond the regional tournaments at the end of the winter futsal season, all of the hype about "national" futsal tournaments is just that -- hype. These aren't national tournaments, just summer tournaments where regional winners get automatic acceptance (but still end up competing against random teams that haven't won anything). It's a money grab.

The names and titles of the tournaments aren't important
Are the kids playing futsal and getting in quality time for improvement?

The kids absolutely are getting quality time and improving. But it does come at a cost... burn out, expensive flight/ hotel to attend & court injuries. I know families that have attended 3 fly away tournaments this summer for their U-Little player. Those players are on top teams, they have big aspirations to play high level. I just got to wonder about the drawbacks down the road.

There is a saying, "Behind every highly successful youth athlete, you can find an overly driven parent." I think futsal is good for development fore some players, but in a lot of cases the juice just can't be worth the squeeze for most players.

Comes at a cost to who?
The parents are voluntarily going and spending their money that they apparently can afford.
--This is true. But 1 point essentially is that the more parents spend, the more futsal events/ national tournaments that will pop-up. I don't think this is worn and/ or you can't really do anything about this.

Kids can get injured anywhere. Futsal doesn't allow the same body contact as outside.
--After age 10, kids are more likely to get injured in futsal largely due to the close proximity of players colliding with each other...the number of ankle sprains seem to be a key area as well.

Whats the burn-out measuring stick?

--I don't think you can have a 'de-facto' measuring stick. Just that most sports psychologists can easily point to 4 points that will lead to burn-out and quitting (FYI, some 65-70% of kids, quit sports by age 13) 1.) Not enough time off from their primary sport... it's recommended kids get 2 months off in a 12 month period... futsal doesn't allow for that at all when combined with outdoor. 2.) Concentrating/ specializing on one sport. 3.) Lack of Enjoyment by being put in too many high pressutre situations 4.) Family dynamics where competency in sport is the primary focus tied self worth.

I wonder how many professional soccer players today took 2 months off soccer when they were younger

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Beyond the regional tournaments at the end of the winter futsal season, all of the hype about "national" futsal tournaments is just that -- hype. These aren't national tournaments, just summer tournaments where regional winners get automatic acceptance (but still end up competing against random teams that haven't won anything). It's a money grab.

The names and titles of the tournaments aren't important
Are the kids playing futsal and getting in quality time for improvement?

The kids absolutely are getting quality time and improving. But it does come at a cost... burn out, expensive flight/ hotel to attend & court injuries. I know families that have attended 3 fly away tournaments this summer for their U-Little player. Those players are on top teams, they have big aspirations to play high level. I just got to wonder about the drawbacks down the road.

There is a saying, "Behind every highly successful youth athlete, you can find an overly driven parent." I think futsal is good for development fore some players, but in a lot of cases the juice just can't be worth the squeeze for most players.

Comes at a cost to who?
The parents are voluntarily going and spending their money that they apparently can afford.
--This is true. But 1 point essentially is that the more parents spend, the more futsal events/ national tournaments that will pop-up. I don't think this is worn and/ or you can't really do anything about this.

Kids can get injured anywhere. Futsal doesn't allow the same body contact as outside.
--After age 10, kids are more likely to get injured in futsal largely due to the close proximity of players colliding with each other...the number of ankle sprains seem to be a key area as well.

Whats the burn-out measuring stick?

--I don't think you can have a 'de-facto' measuring stick. Just that most sports psychologists can easily point to 4 points that will lead to burn-out and quitting (FYI, some 65-70% of kids, quit sports by age 13) 1.) Not enough time off from their primary sport... it's recommended kids get 2 months off in a 12 month period... futsal doesn't allow for that at all when combined with outdoor. 2.) Concentrating/ specializing on one sport. 3.) Lack of Enjoyment by being put in too many high pressutre situations 4.) Family dynamics where competency in sport is the primary focus tied self worth.

I wonder how many professional soccer players today took 2 months off soccer when they were younger

I wonder how many parents on this website have kids who will play professional soccer. Given that they most likely won't, should they be making decisions about their kids based on the 0.01% or the 99.99%?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Beyond the regional tournaments at the end of the winter futsal season, all of the hype about "national" futsal tournaments is just that -- hype. These aren't national tournaments, just summer tournaments where regional winners get automatic acceptance (but still end up competing against random teams that haven't won anything). It's a money grab.

The names and titles of the tournaments aren't important
Are the kids playing futsal and getting in quality time for improvement?

The kids absolutely are getting quality time and improving. But it does come at a cost... burn out, expensive flight/ hotel to attend & court injuries. I know families that have attended 3 fly away tournaments this summer for their U-Little player. Those players are on top teams, they have big aspirations to play high level. I just got to wonder about the drawbacks down the road.

There is a saying, "Behind every highly successful youth athlete, you can find an overly driven parent." I think futsal is good for development fore some players, but in a lot of cases the juice just can't be worth the squeeze for most players.

Comes at a cost to who?
The parents are voluntarily going and spending their money that they apparently can afford.
--This is true. But 1 point essentially is that the more parents spend, the more futsal events/ national tournaments that will pop-up. I don't think this is worn and/ or you can't really do anything about this.

Kids can get injured anywhere. Futsal doesn't allow the same body contact as outside.
--After age 10, kids are more likely to get injured in futsal largely due to the close proximity of players colliding with each other...the number of ankle sprains seem to be a key area as well.

Whats the burn-out measuring stick?

--I don't think you can have a 'de-facto' measuring stick. Just that most sports psychologists can easily point to 4 points that will lead to burn-out and quitting (FYI, some 65-70% of kids, quit sports by age 13) 1.) Not enough time off from their primary sport... it's recommended kids get 2 months off in a 12 month period... futsal doesn't allow for that at all when combined with outdoor. 2.) Concentrating/ specializing on one sport. 3.) Lack of Enjoyment by being put in too many high pressutre situations 4.) Family dynamics where competency in sport is the primary focus tied self worth.

I wonder how many professional soccer players today took 2 months off soccer when they were younger

I wonder how many parents on this website have kids who will play professional soccer. Given that they most likely won't, should they be making decisions about their kids based on the 0.01% or the 99.99%?

Point is, the kids who put in the most and hardest quality work continued on to the top without this imaginary burnout syndrome

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Beyond the regional tournaments at the end of the winter futsal season, all of the hype about "national" futsal tournaments is just that -- hype. These aren't national tournaments, just summer tournaments where regional winners get automatic acceptance (but still end up competing against random teams that haven't won anything). It's a money grab.

The names and titles of the tournaments aren't important
Are the kids playing futsal and getting in quality time for improvement?

The kids absolutely are getting quality time and improving. But it does come at a cost... burn out, expensive flight/ hotel to attend & court injuries. I know families that have attended 3 fly away tournaments this summer for their U-Little player. Those players are on top teams, they have big aspirations to play high level. I just got to wonder about the drawbacks down the road.

There is a saying, "Behind every highly successful youth athlete, you can find an overly driven parent." I think futsal is good for development fore some players, but in a lot of cases the juice just can't be worth the squeeze for most players.

Comes at a cost to who?
The parents are voluntarily going and spending their money that they apparently can afford.
--This is true. But 1 point essentially is that the more parents spend, the more futsal events/ national tournaments that will pop-up. I don't think this is worn and/ or you can't really do anything about this.

Kids can get injured anywhere. Futsal doesn't allow the same body contact as outside.
--After age 10, kids are more likely to get injured in futsal largely due to the close proximity of players colliding with each other...the number of ankle sprains seem to be a key area as well.

Whats the burn-out measuring stick?

--I don't think you can have a 'de-facto' measuring stick. Just that most sports psychologists can easily point to 4 points that will lead to burn-out and quitting (FYI, some 65-70% of kids, quit sports by age 13) 1.) Not enough time off from their primary sport... it's recommended kids get 2 months off in a 12 month period... futsal doesn't allow for that at all when combined with outdoor. 2.) Concentrating/ specializing on one sport. 3.) Lack of Enjoyment by being put in too many high pressutre situations 4.) Family dynamics where competency in sport is the primary focus tied self worth.

I wonder how many professional soccer players today took 2 months off soccer when they were younger

I wonder how many parents on this website have kids who will play professional soccer. Given that they most likely won't, should they be making decisions about their kids based on the 0.01% or the 99.99%?

Point is, the kids who put in the most and hardest quality work continued on to the top without this imaginary burnout syndrome

Imaginary? Which do you think there are more of?
1) Kids who sacrificed everything and reached pro?
2) Kids who sacrificed everything and became injured, or missed academic and social opportunities and dropped out, and now regret it?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Beyond the regional tournaments at the end of the winter futsal season, all of the hype about "national" futsal tournaments is just that -- hype. These aren't national tournaments, just summer tournaments where regional winners get automatic acceptance (but still end up competing against random teams that haven't won anything). It's a money grab.

The names and titles of the tournaments aren't important
Are the kids playing futsal and getting in quality time for improvement?

The kids absolutely are getting quality time and improving. But it does come at a cost... burn out, expensive flight/ hotel to attend & court injuries. I know families that have attended 3 fly away tournaments this summer for their U-Little player. Those players are on top teams, they have big aspirations to play high level. I just got to wonder about the drawbacks down the road.

There is a saying, "Behind every highly successful youth athlete, you can find an overly driven parent." I think futsal is good for development fore some players, but in a lot of cases the juice just can't be worth the squeeze for most players.

Comes at a cost to who?
The parents are voluntarily going and spending their money that they apparently can afford.
--This is true. But 1 point essentially is that the more parents spend, the more futsal events/ national tournaments that will pop-up. I don't think this is worn and/ or you can't really do anything about this.

Kids can get injured anywhere. Futsal doesn't allow the same body contact as outside.
--After age 10, kids are more likely to get injured in futsal largely due to the close proximity of players colliding with each other...the number of ankle sprains seem to be a key area as well.

Whats the burn-out measuring stick?

--I don't think you can have a 'de-facto' measuring stick. Just that most sports psychologists can easily point to 4 points that will lead to burn-out and quitting (FYI, some 65-70% of kids, quit sports by age 13) 1.) Not enough time off from their primary sport... it's recommended kids get 2 months off in a 12 month period... futsal doesn't allow for that at all when combined with outdoor. 2.) Concentrating/ specializing on one sport. 3.) Lack of Enjoyment by being put in too many high pressutre situations 4.) Family dynamics where competency in sport is the primary focus tied self worth.

I wonder how many professional soccer players today took 2 months off soccer when they were younger

I wonder how many parents on this website have kids who will play professional soccer. Given that they most likely won't, should they be making decisions about their kids based on the 0.01% or the 99.99%?

Point is, the kids who put in the most and hardest quality work continued on to the top without this imaginary burnout syndrome

Imaginary? Which do you think there are more of?
1) Kids who sacrificed everything and reached pro?
2) Kids who sacrificed everything and became injured, or missed academic and social opportunities and dropped out, and now regret it?

Define sacrifice everything?

You want to leisurely be a top performer while constantly taking vacations and hanging out on-line with friends.

Gains without sacrifice?