Berkeley vs HYP

[Anonymous]

Because they take 20% students from community college transfers.

[Anonymous]

Try finishing Berkeley in four years. Classes are hard to secure in any given major.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This site places Princeton 1st, Yale 2nd, Harvard 3rd and UCB 35th when considered among colleges and universities nationally:

https://share.google/vXLzCAZRbXKZNmc8P

Students may be inclined to choose one of the higher ranked schools in such a comparison.

In terms of undergraduate experience, Berkeley doesn't seem too dissimilar to Harvard (or Michigan, or Texas). However, for most prospective undergraduates, I would recommend Princeton or Yale over UCB.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Try finishing Berkeley in four years. Classes are hard to secure in any given major.

80% regularly do. In fact, in the latest USNWR data pull, Berkeley had a four-year graduation rate higher than HYP. https://www.usnews.com/best-colleges/rankings/highest-grad-rate

Even in years where it is the opposite, they are often with 5-8 percentage points of each other.

Just another one of these DCUM myths.

And I still probably wouldn’t choose Berkeley over HYP, but it does have some strong programs where it is competitive (CS, Econ, history, if you really wanted to study business not just end up in it).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Try finishing Berkeley in four years. Classes are hard to secure in any given major.

80% regularly do. In fact, in the latest USNWR data pull, Berkeley had a four-year graduation rate higher than HYP. https://www.usnews.com/best-colleges/rankings/highest-grad-rate

Even in years where it is the opposite, they are often with 5-8 percentage points of each other.

Just another one of these DCUM myths.

And I still probably wouldn’t choose Berkeley over HYP, but it does have some strong programs where it is competitive (CS, Econ, history, if you really wanted to study business not just end up in it).

I find that hard to believe because of six-year graduation rates. Berkeley: 93%, Harvard: 98%.

[Anonymous]

I chose HYP over Cal.

No regrets.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I chose HYP over Cal.

No regrets.

In state or out of state tuition for Cal?

How much financial aid at HYP?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Try finishing Berkeley in four years. Classes are hard to secure in any given major.

80% regularly do. In fact, in the latest USNWR data pull, Berkeley had a four-year graduation rate higher than HYP. https://www.usnews.com/best-colleges/rankings/highest-grad-rate

Even in years where it is the opposite, they are often with 5-8 percentage points of each other.

Just another one of these DCUM myths.

And I still probably wouldn’t choose Berkeley over HYP, but it does have some strong programs where it is competitive (CS, Econ, history, if you really wanted to study business not just end up in it).

I find that hard to believe because of six-year graduation rates. Berkeley: 93%, Harvard: 98%.

It’s not hard to believe, it’s the same data you can find on College Navigator from the National Center for Education Statistics and reported by the universities.

There’s a Covid element in there, but that it didn’t affect UCB and affected Princeton much less is not really a favorable argument.

Fact is that the “it’s hard to graduate on time” from UCB is mostly nonsense.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This site places Princeton 1st, Yale 2nd, Harvard 3rd and UCB 35th when considered among colleges and universities nationally:

https://share.google/vXLzCAZRbXKZNmc8P

Students may be inclined to choose one of the higher ranked schools in such a comparison.

In terms of undergraduate experience, Berkeley doesn't seem too dissimilar to Harvard (or Michigan, or Texas). However, for most prospective undergraduates, I would recommend Princeton or Yale over UCB.

Beg to differ. Think how terrible and expensive off-campus housing at Berkeley is. Given oos tuition cost (Michigan is private school tuition), UT wins hands down. Not coincidentally, it is also the toughest oos admit — and Michigan the easiest.