So is there an ED advantage at UVA?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:In-state acceptance rates this year
ED: 29.5% (2,795 applications)
EA: 25% (11,240)
RD: 11% (3,519)

They say that they get their best applications early, which makes sense. It's hard to get in regardless. It's not like they're accepting 50% vs 10%.

EA is the most competitive pool at UVA and also when they admitted recruited athletes. There is a true advantage to ED, not sure why the university pretends there isn’t. Anecdotally, kids who aren’t admitted ed but deferred and then waitlisted seem to have a higher likelihood of being pulled from waitlist.

Are you sure that's when they admit athletes? I follow recruitment activity and I think the overall calendar is changing in D1.

[Anonymous]

Probably would help to apply ED if you are from TJ. Otherwise hard to say, shouldn’t hurt though. You would know where you stand by Dec 15, can apply to W&M ED2 after that

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:OP, no one here knows if there is an advantage or not. This is why using ED as a strategy is a fool’s errand for most schools save for a few (I’m looking at you Tulane and Middlebury.)

If this is the school where your kid knows in their heart that they want it above every other school, then apply ED. If not, then don’t apply ED.

That’s probably right. Our kid decided to shoot their shot at a super-reach but was torn until the end of October about doing ED at UVA. Didn’t get into the reach, got in EA at UVA. Still wonders about f they should have just done ED at UVA and saved a lot of stress and waiting. But that’s the way it goes!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:In-state acceptance rates this year
ED: 29.5% (2,795 applications)
EA: 25% (11,240)
RD: 11% (3,519)

They say that they get their best applications early, which makes sense. It's hard to get in regardless. It's not like they're accepting 50% vs 10%.

EA is the most competitive pool at UVA and also when they admitted recruited athletes. There is a true advantage to ED, not sure why the university pretends there isn’t. Anecdotally, kids who aren’t admitted ed but deferred and then waitlisted seem to have a higher likelihood of being pulled from waitlist.

You need to check the stats from your own school. At my kid's school the most competitive applicants don't apply ED to UVA but apply ED/SCEA to Ivies and similar. They submit EA to UVA and keep this app in if they don't get their ED Ivy.
There are exceptions to every rule but in general the stronger kids apply EA and not ED because of the above.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:In-state acceptance rates this year
ED: 29.5% (2,795 applications)
EA: 25% (11,240)
RD: 11% (3,519)

They say that they get their best applications early, which makes sense. It's hard to get in regardless. It's not like they're accepting 50% vs 10%.

EA is the most competitive pool at UVA and also when they admitted recruited athletes. There is a true advantage to ED, not sure why the university pretends there isn’t. Anecdotally, kids who aren’t admitted ed but deferred and then waitlisted seem to have a higher likelihood of being pulled from waitlist.

This is what our scattergrams show us too. The ED kids that are WL get off, but the EA kids that are WL do not.

[Anonymous]

ED was definitely better for borderline kids this year at our large VA public

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Where does someone find "the scattergrams"?

If your kid's high school subscribes to Naviance or SCOIR software platforms for managing college app work (for kid and counselor), your kid may be able to see scatterplots with dots representing GPA/SAT of actual applicants from their school and their admission results (green admit, red rejected).

It is most useful if there have been a lot of applicants from your school. And most of them are not legacy.

[Anonymous]

Any thoughts on the fact that UVA enrolls 40% test optional? My out-of-state dc is applying EA, loved the online tour.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:In-state acceptance rates this year
ED: 29.5% (2,795 applications)
EA: 25% (11,240)
RD: 11% (3,519)

They say that they get their best applications early, which makes sense. It's hard to get in regardless. It's not like they're accepting 50% vs 10%.

EA is the most competitive pool at UVA and also when they admitted recruited athletes. There is a true advantage to ED, not sure why the university pretends there isn’t. Anecdotally, kids who aren’t admitted ed but deferred and then waitlisted seem to have a higher likelihood of being pulled from waitlist.

Are you sure that's when they admit athletes? I follow recruitment activity and I think the overall calendar is changing in D1.

UVA admits recruited athletes EA, most other schools use ED.

[Anonymous]

People may be misconstruing what schools mean by “there is no advantage to ED.” Schools are saying that their admission requirements are consistent across all application segments, so no matter when you apply, your application will be judged by the same standard.

BUT, that leaves out a lot of variables very important to admissions. If you are qualified to attend a school, but many others are too - especially from the same region or high school - the college can’t take everyone. In this case, the first qualified applications - especially if they’re 100% yield (ED) - are no brainer admits. After ED, you may be qualified, but seats are now more scarce, so other variables, like gender balancing, geographical representation, athletics, etc. impact those chosen. ED matters.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Any thoughts on the fact that UVA enrolls 40% test optional? My out-of-state dc is applying EA, loved the online tour.

Apply! Great school. My own very high stats kid applied ED…she couldn’t imagine herself anyplace else. Very happy. School offers it all.

[Anonymous]

my kid trying ED with 4.29 GPA ,part time job ,leadership in few clubs.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:ED was definitely better for borderline kids this year at our large VA public

ok, so I gotta ask: how the hell do you know who the "borderline" kids are?

i'll wait

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:People may be misconstruing what schools mean by “there is no advantage to ED.” Schools are saying that their admission requirements are consistent across all application segments, so no matter when you apply, your application will be judged by the same standard.

BUT, that leaves out a lot of variables very important to admissions. If you are qualified to attend a school, but many others are too - especially from the same region or high school - the college can’t take everyone. In this case, the first qualified applications - especially if they’re 100% yield (ED) - are no brainer admits. After ED, you may be qualified, but seats are now more scarce, so other variables, like gender balancing, geographical representation, athletics, etc. impact those chosen. ED matters.

I think this makes a lot of sense as an approach to thinking about UVA ED (especially from Northern Virginia).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:my kid trying ED with 4.29 GPA ,part time job ,leadership in few clubs.

Best wishes to your kid!