MLS Next 2 doomed

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Well if you think like that don’t have your child play in it.
My kid is excited and the coach seems amazing, kids are super dedicated and anywhere you have dedicated players and a passionate coach is going to be great. We did review ECNL, ECRL, and EDP options and the MLSN2 options he had was the best for our U13 son compared to coaches, schedules and more for the other options for our son!!! Sometimes it’s not about the letters but coach and team matter the most.
Hope you’re having a good option for your player and are able to take up a new hobby other than just bashing MLS Next New Tier.

Well said and kudos to you! I hope more parents think like this.

[Anonymous]

It hardly seems doomed? MLSN is well positioned to wreck ECNL boys now that there's a unified place to put the second teams.

What people want out of it? Hard to say, for us good competition, less travel, and playing HS for my son seems sufficient.

[Anonymous]

Locally, DCU has it's partner clubs which they will find talent. Remaining top tier players will trickle down to MLS Next clubs and ECNL clubs. MLSN2 wont be considered, that's the reality.

Top teams in this are will remain on the boys side DCU...then Alexandria, SYC, Bethesda, NVA, VDA, Arlington. Not the end all for those that want to play, but those are the serious contenders in this area.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Locally, DCU has it's partner clubs which they will find talent. Remaining top tier players will trickle down to MLS Next clubs and ECNL clubs. MLSN2 wont be considered, that's the reality.

Top teams in this are will remain on the boys side DCU...then Alexandria, SYC, Bethesda, NVA, VDA, Arlington. Not the end all for those that want to play, but those are the serious contenders in this area.

Alexandria SYC and Bethesda will have MLS Next 2 teams

[Anonymous]

You gotta stop with the assumption that every parent and kid in MLSN2 is imaging their kid at Real Madrid or even UNC.

It's an alternative to the ECNL-RL league, that's all. For us, that means different teams, different competition, similar travel and costs, and we hope, better coaches at the new club.

[Anonymous]

ECNL-RL, MLSN2, GA Aspire have nothing valuable to offer the soccer community. The only purpose they serve is to take more of the league market share from others such as USYS and compete with each other.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:ECNL-RL, MLSN2, GA Aspire have nothing valuable to offer the soccer community. The only purpose they serve is to take more of the league market share from others such as USYS and compete with each other.

If there were only MLS Next, MLS Next2 and EDP we would all be fine

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:ECNL-RL, MLSN2, GA Aspire have nothing valuable to offer the soccer community. The only purpose they serve is to take more of the league market share from others such as USYS and compete with each other.

If there were only MLS Next, MLS Next2 and EDP we would all be fine

No we wouldn’t, a monopoly on the top two teams in every club are u kidding me? All this excessive travel is an effing waste of time and money. Even if families get scholarships for fees who’s going to take off work to drive them etc. gotta be kidding me, at least state run orgs have a vested interest in their residents. These national business could give a crap. The odp bubble up model was better than all this corporate pro/college pathway promise . No one, even the coaches, are buying it deep down, but enough parents are willing push their kids and/or vice versa into this delusion.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:ECNL-RL, MLSN2, GA Aspire have nothing valuable to offer the soccer community. The only purpose they serve is to take more of the league market share from others such as USYS and compete with each other.

If there were only MLS Next, MLS Next2 and EDP we would all be fine

No we wouldn’t, a monopoly on the top two teams in every club are u kidding me? All this excessive travel is an effing waste of time and money. Even if families get scholarships for fees who’s going to take off work to drive them etc. gotta be kidding me, at least state run orgs have a vested interest in their residents. These national business could give a crap. The odp bubble up model was better than all this corporate pro/college pathway promise . No one, even the coaches, are buying it deep down, but enough parents are willing push their kids and/or vice versa into this delusion.

I think there is so much less delusion in youth soccer than this forum makes it out to be. Parents are busy raising kids and not focused on “fighting/fixing the system.” If you have the time to do that and willing to use your child to prove a point, then you are very privileged to be able to do that.

At the end of the day, kids just want to play at the level that suits them and that there are so many choices is not a bad thing. That college is even an option is a privilege that is unique to the U.S. I truly believe that most soccer parents are putting their kids in teams and leagues that is best for them. Even on DS MLSNext team, I don’t see any family having unrealistic expectations about their son’s skill level or future. It’s a year by year thing.

And frankly, I don’t understand why some people think good soccer development should be free/lowcost or theres some sort of entitlement to that. Or that if anyone pays for something, that they’re delusional or buying into status or it’s a money grab. It’s the people who whine and complain about everything who are likely to have had the most unrealistic expectations.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:ECNL-RL, MLSN2, GA Aspire have nothing valuable to offer the soccer community. The only purpose they serve is to take more of the league market share from others such as USYS and compete with each other.

If there were only MLS Next, MLS Next2 and EDP we would all be fine

No we wouldn’t, a monopoly on the top two teams in every club are u kidding me? All this excessive travel is an effing waste of time and money. Even if families get scholarships for fees who’s going to take off work to drive them etc. gotta be kidding me, at least state run orgs have a vested interest in their residents. These national business could give a crap. The odp bubble up model was better than all this corporate pro/college pathway promise . No one, even the coaches, are buying it deep down, but enough parents are willing push their kids and/or vice versa into this delusion.

I think there is so much less delusion in youth soccer than this forum makes it out to be. Parents are busy raising kids and not focused on “fighting/fixing the system.” If you have the time to do that and willing to use your child to prove a point, then you are very privileged to be able to do that.

At the end of the day, kids just want to play at the level that suits them and that there are so many choices is not a bad thing. That college is even an option is a privilege that is unique to the U.S. I truly believe that most soccer parents are putting their kids in teams and leagues that is best for them. Even on DS MLSNext team, I don’t see any family having unrealistic expectations about their son’s skill level or future. It’s a year by year thing.

And frankly, I don’t understand why some people think good soccer development should be free/lowcost or theres some sort of entitlement to that. Or that if anyone pays for something, that they’re delusional or buying into status or it’s a money grab. It’s the people who whine and complain about everything who are likely to have had the most unrealistic expectations.

Delusion is thinking one corporation should come in and take over nationally all the soccer clubs top two teams. But if if you are an MLSN badge wearer I guess that makes sense.

[Anonymous]

Isn’t development and skill all about the individual’s attributes and commitment not the league?

Pretty sure no one cares where you played only if they want to risk their job that you can play.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:ECNL-RL, MLSN2, GA Aspire have nothing valuable to offer the soccer community. The only purpose they serve is to take more of the league market share from others such as USYS and compete with each other.

If there were only MLS Next, MLS Next2 and EDP we would all be fine

No we wouldn’t, a monopoly on the top two teams in every club are u kidding me? All this excessive travel is an effing waste of time and money. Even if families get scholarships for fees who’s going to take off work to drive them etc. gotta be kidding me, at least state run orgs have a vested interest in their residents. These national business could give a crap. The odp bubble up model was better than all this corporate pro/college pathway promise . No one, even the coaches, are buying it deep down, but enough parents are willing push their kids and/or vice versa into this delusion.

I think there is so much less delusion in youth soccer than this forum makes it out to be. Parents are busy raising kids and not focused on “fighting/fixing the system.” If you have the time to do that and willing to use your child to prove a point, then you are very privileged to be able to do that.

At the end of the day, kids just want to play at the level that suits them and that there are so many choices is not a bad thing. That college is even an option is a privilege that is unique to the U.S. I truly believe that most soccer parents are putting their kids in teams and leagues that is best for them. Even on DS MLSNext team, I don’t see any family having unrealistic expectations about their son’s skill level or future. It’s a year by year thing.

And frankly, I don’t understand why some people think good soccer development should be free/lowcost or theres some sort of entitlement to that. Or that if anyone pays for something, that they’re delusional or buying into status or it’s a money grab. It’s the people who whine and complain about everything who are likely to have had the most unrealistic expectations.

Delusion is thinking one corporation should come in and take over nationally all the soccer clubs top two teams. But if if you are an MLSN badge wearer I guess that makes sense.

I didn’t post that nor do I agree with it. But it’s also delusional to think that ODP was a better model.

I just don’t think people care enough either way for much to change.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Fake pipeline to tier 1; tons of travel; season built around school soccer even if you don’t want to play it; watered down competition from scooping up marginal clubs.

ECNL dad post!

[Anonymous]

“Scooping up marginal clubs” , isn’t that FVU’s model?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:ECNL-RL, MLSN2, GA Aspire have nothing valuable to offer the soccer community. The only purpose they serve is to take more of the league market share from others such as USYS and compete with each other.

If there were only MLS Next, MLS Next2 and EDP we would all be fine

No we wouldn’t, a monopoly on the top two teams in every club are u kidding me? All this excessive travel is an effing waste of time and money. Even if families get scholarships for fees who’s going to take off work to drive them etc. gotta be kidding me, at least state run orgs have a vested interest in their residents. These national business could give a crap. The odp bubble up model was better than all this corporate pro/college pathway promise . No one, even the coaches, are buying it deep down, but enough parents are willing push their kids and/or vice versa into this delusion.

Why would they require a lot of travel for everyone?
If all clubs were only in 3 leagues there will be many local options within a 2hr or less drive