lol, no one gives two shits about st. andrews vs oxbridge |
I hear you and I know you are correct for UK students. But I think the topic here is for US based students. And it is much harder for US students to get in Oxbridge than St Andrews. I know that for UK students is very hard. They published this a year ago showing the ranking of the lowest admission rates and St Andrews was 4th, very close to LSE and Cambridge, so you are correct. Also I realize these numbers are inclusive of Internationals, which is easier at St Andrew’s. I guess if they publish UK only admissions rate it would be even closer. So while you are correct, when looking from a UK perspective, for a US student it is different. |
New poster here. You are peddling nonsense. St Andrews is a great university, but no one has ever chosen it over Oxford or Cambridge. It is around the same level as Trinity, in no way above it! |
When I used to teach many kids got into Oxbridge and that had many ECs. I knew some who turned down HYPSM for Oxbridge. |
Nobody said that. Clearly there is a reading comprehension issue here… |
For US students sure….Here in the UK, I’m sorry….St Andrews is way ahead of Trinity….in my circles in London, very few kids even look at Trinity…. |
Gush, their hardest has an acceptance rate of 20%... Across the Atlantic, we have 4%, 3%. Ridiculous. |
UM, BU level of selectivity ... |
OMG, typical american ignorance of the system masquerading as inferiority complex. You do realize here in the UK we can only apply to 5 unis? And either Oxford OR Cambridge but not both. It is self selection. It is not like the US where a ton of mediocre kids applying test optional inflate admission rates. Please read a little more before making idiotic comments on things you clearly do not understand. |
This is true. The whole "acceptance rate" metric is not something that is looked at in the UK because it is not about vast numbers of unqualified people applying to Harvard and pushing that rate to the tiniest of percentages. The other thing is, it is much easier for a US applicant to get into St. Andrews or any other UK university other than Oxbridge. I have spoken directly to an Oxford college admissions person. She explained that they actively try NOT to offer to US students because with their UK offers, if they make the grades they always attend, whereas the US students do not always attend, sometimes choosing an Ivy over the travel, and when that happens, they effectively "lose" a spot that they could have offered to a UK student. |
You can draw that conclusion. The population that applies to American universities is way higher. |
*cannot |
This is so racist! |