Judge Charles Breyer says Trump sent NG troops into LA Illegally

Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Sorry Newsom, you aren’t the commander in chief even if you are good at selecting San Fran judges.

Curious if the 9th circuit plays this game and makes scotus overturn it.


The statute trump used literally says “Orders for these purposes shall be issued through the governors of the States or, in the case of the District of Columbia, through the commanding general of the National Guard of the District of Columbia.”


He called the governor but doesn’t need his permission. History has shown this. A governor doesn’t control the military. It’s the president’s determination what the threat level is and it’s for the electorate to handle if he oversteps, not the judiciary.


He didn't call the governor - he is forgetful and mixed up and can't remember. And he does need his permission.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Sorry Newsom, you aren’t the commander in chief even if you are good at selecting San Fran judges.

Curious if the 9th circuit plays this game and makes scotus overturn it.


The statute trump used literally says “Orders for these purposes shall be issued through the governors of the States or, in the case of the District of Columbia, through the commanding general of the National Guard of the District of Columbia.”


He called the governor but doesn’t need his permission. History has shown this. A governor doesn’t control the military. It’s the president’s determination what the threat level is and it’s for the electorate to handle if he oversteps, not the judiciary.


He didn't call the governor - he is forgetful and mixed up and can't remember. And he does need his permission.


The call logs were posted online and shows he did call and spoke to Newsom for 16 minutes.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Sorry Newsom, you aren’t the commander in chief even if you are good at selecting San Fran judges.

Curious if the 9th circuit plays this game and makes scotus overturn it.


The statute trump used literally says “Orders for these purposes shall be issued through the governors of the States or, in the case of the District of Columbia, through the commanding general of the National Guard of the District of Columbia.”


He called the governor but doesn’t need his permission. History has shown this. A governor doesn’t control the military. It’s the president’s determination what the threat level is and it’s for the electorate to handle if he oversteps, not the judiciary.


He didn't call the governor - he is forgetful and mixed up and can't remember. And he does need his permission.


The call logs were posted online and shows he did call and spoke to Newsom for 16 minutes.


That was a different day.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Sorry Newsom, you aren’t the commander in chief even if you are good at selecting San Fran judges.

Curious if the 9th circuit plays this game and makes scotus overturn it.


The statute trump used literally says “Orders for these purposes shall be issued through the governors of the States or, in the case of the District of Columbia, through the commanding general of the National Guard of the District of Columbia.”


He called the governor but doesn’t need his permission. History has shown this. A governor doesn’t control the military. It’s the president’s determination what the threat level is and it’s for the electorate to handle if he oversteps, not the judiciary.


He didn't call the governor - he is forgetful and mixed up and can't remember. And he does need his permission.


The call logs were posted online and shows he did call and spoke to Newsom for 16 minutes.


That was a different day.


Wrong. There was a time difference. 1 am June 7 in dc is June 6 in California aka when the riots began. Either way it doesn’t matter. Newsom lied and said there was no call at all.

Why are you listening to a liar?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Sorry Newsom, you aren’t the commander in chief even if you are good at selecting San Fran judges.

Curious if the 9th circuit plays this game and makes scotus overturn it.


The statute trump used literally says “Orders for these purposes shall be issued through the governors of the States or, in the case of the District of Columbia, through the commanding general of the National Guard of the District of Columbia.”


He called the governor but doesn’t need his permission. History has shown this. A governor doesn’t control the military. It’s the president’s determination what the threat level is and it’s for the electorate to handle if he oversteps, not the judiciary.


Governors control the NG and the constitution specifically gives congress the authority to set the conditions for when the NG can be called into federal service.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Sorry Newsom, you aren’t the commander in chief even if you are good at selecting San Fran judges.

Curious if the 9th circuit plays this game and makes scotus overturn it.


The statute trump used literally says “Orders for these purposes shall be issued through the governors of the States or, in the case of the District of Columbia, through the commanding general of the National Guard of the District of Columbia.”


He called the governor but doesn’t need his permission. History has shown this. A governor doesn’t control the military. It’s the president’s determination what the threat level is and it’s for the electorate to handle if he oversteps, not the judiciary.


He didn't call the governor - he is forgetful and mixed up and can't remember. And he does need his permission.


The call logs were posted online and shows he did call and spoke to Newsom for 16 minutes.


That was a different day.


Wrong. There was a time difference. 1 am June 7 in dc is June 6 in California aka when the riots began. Either way it doesn’t matter. Newsom lied and said there was no call at all.

Why are you listening to a liar?


Yes, that was a different phone call. President Trump never called Governor Newsom and asked him or told him about the National Guard.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Sorry Newsom, you aren’t the commander in chief even if you are good at selecting San Fran judges.

Curious if the 9th circuit plays this game and makes scotus overturn it.


The statute trump used literally says “Orders for these purposes shall be issued through the governors of the States or, in the case of the District of Columbia, through the commanding general of the National Guard of the District of Columbia.”


He called the governor but doesn’t need his permission. History has shown this. A governor doesn’t control the military. It’s the president’s determination what the threat level is and it’s for the electorate to handle if he oversteps, not the judiciary.


He didn't call the governor - he is forgetful and mixed up and can't remember. And he does need his permission.


The call logs were posted online and shows he did call and spoke to Newsom for 16 minutes.


That was a different day.


Wrong. There was a time difference. 1 am June 7 in dc is June 6 in California aka when the riots began. Either way it doesn’t matter. Newsom lied and said there was no call at all.

Why are you listening to a liar?


Newsom, Trump and lies go hand and hand. Talk about a gruesome twosome.... Trump and Newsom.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Sorry Newsom, you aren’t the commander in chief even if you are good at selecting San Fran judges.

Curious if the 9th circuit plays this game and makes scotus overturn it.


The statute trump used literally says “Orders for these purposes shall be issued through the governors of the States or, in the case of the District of Columbia, through the commanding general of the National Guard of the District of Columbia.”


He called the governor but doesn’t need his permission. History has shown this. A governor doesn’t control the military. It’s the president’s determination what the threat level is and it’s for the electorate to handle if he oversteps, not the judiciary.


He didn't call the governor - he is forgetful and mixed up and can't remember. And he does need his permission.


The call logs were posted online and shows he did call and spoke to Newsom for 16 minutes.


But not about the national guard or the protests. And that was on friday night. On Tuesday, trump falsely claimed it was "yesterday" - it wasn't. His brain is mush.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Sorry Newsom, you aren’t the commander in chief even if you are good at selecting San Fran judges.

Curious if the 9th circuit plays this game and makes scotus overturn it.


The statute trump used literally says “Orders for these purposes shall be issued through the governors of the States or, in the case of the District of Columbia, through the commanding general of the National Guard of the District of Columbia.”


He called the governor but doesn’t need his permission. History has shown this. A governor doesn’t control the military. It’s the president’s determination what the threat level is and it’s for the electorate to handle if he oversteps, not the judiciary.


Governors control the NG and the constitution specifically gives congress the authority to set the conditions for when the NG can be called into federal service.


Calling the NG into federal service is an Art II authority. It happens when POTUS says it happens. Not justiciable.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Congress clearly spelled out when and how the president can federalize the National Guard. And here, President Trump did not do any of it.

There's some IANAL on twitter saying that because the statute says "shall" instead of "must" that Trump doesn't have to go through Newsom. Bro...


A president doesn’t need a governor’s permission. See Nixon.


When did Nixon call out the National Guard without a governor’s request?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Sorry Newsom, you aren’t the commander in chief even if you are good at selecting San Fran judges.

Curious if the 9th circuit plays this game and makes scotus overturn it.


The statute trump used literally says “Orders for these purposes shall be issued through the governors of the States or, in the case of the District of Columbia, through the commanding general of the National Guard of the District of Columbia.”


He called the governor but doesn’t need his permission. History has shown this. A governor doesn’t control the military. It’s the president’s determination what the threat level is and it’s for the electorate to handle if he oversteps, not the judiciary.


He didn't call the governor - he is forgetful and mixed up and can't remember. And he does need his permission.


The call logs were posted online and shows he did call and spoke to Newsom for 16 minutes.


But not about the national guard or the protests. And that was on friday night. On Tuesday, trump falsely claimed it was "yesterday" - it wasn't. His brain is mush.


You can’t be serious. Your governor was caught in a lie saying there was no call. Trump produces the log, and you’re still suggesting it just wasn’t the right day?!

Doesn’t matter anyway, Trump doesn’t need permission, just that “orders” are related to him.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Congress clearly spelled out when and how the president can federalize the National Guard. And here, President Trump did not do any of it.

There's some IANAL on twitter saying that because the statute says "shall" instead of "must" that Trump doesn't have to go through Newsom. Bro...


A president doesn’t need a governor’s permission. See Nixon.


When did Nixon call out the National Guard without a governor’s request?


1965, Selma. Sorry, Johnson. Same difference.

Alabama didn’t need to consent.

Judges didn’t need to sign off on it.

Pure article 2.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Sorry Newsom, you aren’t the commander in chief even if you are good at selecting San Fran judges.

Curious if the 9th circuit plays this game and makes scotus overturn it.


The statute trump used literally says “Orders for these purposes shall be issued through the governors of the States or, in the case of the District of Columbia, through the commanding general of the National Guard of the District of Columbia.”


He called the governor but doesn’t need his permission. History has shown this. A governor doesn’t control the military. It’s the president’s determination what the threat level is and it’s for the electorate to handle if he oversteps, not the judiciary.


He didn't call the governor - he is forgetful and mixed up and can't remember. And he does need his permission.


The call logs were posted online and shows he did call and spoke to Newsom for 16 minutes.


But not about the national guard or the protests. And that was on friday night. On Tuesday, trump falsely claimed it was "yesterday" - it wasn't. His brain is mush.


How would you know what was discussed in 16 minutes in a private call?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Sorry Newsom, you aren’t the commander in chief even if you are good at selecting San Fran judges.

Curious if the 9th circuit plays this game and makes scotus overturn it.


The statute trump used literally says “Orders for these purposes shall be issued through the governors of the States or, in the case of the District of Columbia, through the commanding general of the National Guard of the District of Columbia.”


He called the governor but doesn’t need his permission. History has shown this. A governor doesn’t control the military. It’s the president’s determination what the threat level is and it’s for the electorate to handle if he oversteps, not the judiciary.


Governors control the NG and the constitution specifically gives congress the authority to set the conditions for when the NG can be called into federal service.


Calling the NG into federal service is an Art II authority. It happens when POTUS says it happens. Not justiciable.


Wrong. Article I, Section 9: “The Congress shall have Power…To provide for calling forth the Militia to execute the Laws of the Union, suppress Insurrections and repel Invasions;”
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Sorry Newsom, you aren’t the commander in chief even if you are good at selecting San Fran judges.

Curious if the 9th circuit plays this game and makes scotus overturn it.


The statute trump used literally says “Orders for these purposes shall be issued through the governors of the States or, in the case of the District of Columbia, through the commanding general of the National Guard of the District of Columbia.”


He called the governor but doesn’t need his permission. History has shown this. A governor doesn’t control the military. It’s the president’s determination what the threat level is and it’s for the electorate to handle if he oversteps, not the judiciary.


He didn't call the governor - he is forgetful and mixed up and can't remember. And he does need his permission.


The call logs were posted online and shows he did call and spoke to Newsom for 16 minutes.


That was a different day.


Wrong. There was a time difference. 1 am June 7 in dc is June 6 in California aka when the riots began. Either way it doesn’t matter. Newsom lied and said there was no call at all.

Why are you listening to a liar?


Yes, that was a different phone call. President Trump never called Governor Newsom and asked him or told him about the National Guard.


How would you know what they discussed? Newsom lied and said there was no call.
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