CES or home school enrichment

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:100% CES. They are eliminating ELC. It will be much better at CES.

OP here. Our school has been doing CKLA this year, and it seems fine.

If everything seems fine, then go ahead and decline. You’d know if your kid really needed the CES. My kid was incredibly frustrated by school in third grade, to the point that they were angry that I hadn’t tried to see if they could skip a grade back when they were in kindergarten (which I don’t believe MCPS would even have allowed because their birthday is nowhere near the cutoff). My kid needed something to change. DC also did magnet middle school and is now in magnet high school. They’re so grateful for the cohort they’ve had, especially in middle school and high school, because although every class has kids who misbehave or are distracting, a large majority of their classmates pay attention in class, learn the material quickly, turn in their work, and can handle a faster pace and deeper discussions. In mixed ability classrooms, my child felt ignored because they were never called on. In the magnet programs, they get to participate more.

I dunno. Sounds like your kid has low frustration tolerance. Most people in the world are average, and kids have to learn how to deal with that before they become insufferable adults. I'm starting to think the real superstar kid is the one who isn't in a social program, mixes with all the normies, and still shines.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:100% CES. They are eliminating ELC. It will be much better at CES.

OP here. Our school has been doing CKLA this year, and it seems fine.

If everything seems fine, then go ahead and decline. You’d know if your kid really needed the CES. My kid was incredibly frustrated by school in third grade, to the point that they were angry that I hadn’t tried to see if they could skip a grade back when they were in kindergarten (which I don’t believe MCPS would even have allowed because their birthday is nowhere near the cutoff). My kid needed something to change. DC also did magnet middle school and is now in magnet high school. They’re so grateful for the cohort they’ve had, especially in middle school and high school, because although every class has kids who misbehave or are distracting, a large majority of their classmates pay attention in class, learn the material quickly, turn in their work, and can handle a faster pace and deeper discussions. In mixed ability classrooms, my child felt ignored because they were never called on. In the magnet programs, they get to participate more.

I dunno. Sounds like your kid has low frustration tolerance. Most people in the world are average, and kids have to learn how to deal with that before they become insufferable adults. I'm starting to think the real superstar kid is the one who isn't in a social program, mixes with all the normies, and still shines.

Typo, I meant special program

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:100% CES. They are eliminating ELC. It will be much better at CES.

OP here. Our school has been doing CKLA this year, and it seems fine.

If everything seems fine, then go ahead and decline. You’d know if your kid really needed the CES. My kid was incredibly frustrated by school in third grade, to the point that they were angry that I hadn’t tried to see if they could skip a grade back when they were in kindergarten (which I don’t believe MCPS would even have allowed because their birthday is nowhere near the cutoff). My kid needed something to change. DC also did magnet middle school and is now in magnet high school. They’re so grateful for the cohort they’ve had, especially in middle school and high school, because although every class has kids who misbehave or are distracting, a large majority of their classmates pay attention in class, learn the material quickly, turn in their work, and can handle a faster pace and deeper discussions. In mixed ability classrooms, my child felt ignored because they were never called on. In the magnet programs, they get to participate more.

I dunno. Sounds like your kid has low frustration tolerance. Most people in the world are average, and kids have to learn how to deal with that before they become insufferable adults. I'm starting to think the real superstar kid is the one who isn't in a social program, mixes with all the normies, and still shines.

Then by all means, turn down all offers for enrichment for your child and raise a superstar.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:100% CES. They are eliminating ELC. It will be much better at CES.

OP here. Our school has been doing CKLA this year, and it seems fine.

If everything seems fine, then go ahead and decline. You’d know if your kid really needed the CES. My kid was incredibly frustrated by school in third grade, to the point that they were angry that I hadn’t tried to see if they could skip a grade back when they were in kindergarten (which I don’t believe MCPS would even have allowed because their birthday is nowhere near the cutoff). My kid needed something to change. DC also did magnet middle school and is now in magnet high school. They’re so grateful for the cohort they’ve had, especially in middle school and high school, because although every class has kids who misbehave or are distracting, a large majority of their classmates pay attention in class, learn the material quickly, turn in their work, and can handle a faster pace and deeper discussions. In mixed ability classrooms, my child felt ignored because they were never called on. In the magnet programs, they get to participate more.

I dunno. Sounds like your kid has low frustration tolerance. Most people in the world are average, and kids have to learn how to deal with that before they become insufferable adults. I'm starting to think the real superstar kid is the one who isn't in a social program, mixes with all the normies, and still shines.

Then by all means, turn down all offers for enrichment for your child and raise a superstar.

OK, tell me how to do it! I have no idea!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:100% CES. They are eliminating ELC. It will be much better at CES.

OP here. Our school has been doing CKLA this year, and it seems fine.

If everything seems fine, then go ahead and decline. You’d know if your kid really needed the CES. My kid was incredibly frustrated by school in third grade, to the point that they were angry that I hadn’t tried to see if they could skip a grade back when they were in kindergarten (which I don’t believe MCPS would even have allowed because their birthday is nowhere near the cutoff). My kid needed something to change. DC also did magnet middle school and is now in magnet high school. They’re so grateful for the cohort they’ve had, especially in middle school and high school, because although every class has kids who misbehave or are distracting, a large majority of their classmates pay attention in class, learn the material quickly, turn in their work, and can handle a faster pace and deeper discussions. In mixed ability classrooms, my child felt ignored because they were never called on. In the magnet programs, they get to participate more.

I dunno. Sounds like your kid has low frustration tolerance. Most people in the world are average, and kids have to learn how to deal with that before they become insufferable adults. I'm starting to think the real superstar kid is the one who isn't in a social program, mixes with all the normies, and still shines.

Then by all means, turn down all offers for enrichment for your child and raise a superstar.

OK, tell me how to do it! I have no idea!

Apparently, superstar kids have built high frustration tolerance from years and years of mixed ability classrooms, so don’t enroll your kids in any special programs.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:CES. Peer group is everything.

This. And by and large the same cohort goes to magnet ms and magnet hs. Impact on ECs, scholastic teams, internships and college application journey etc is significant and supportive. At least in my kids magnet which was more chilled parents and not the uber-competitive parents of W schools.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:CES. Peer group is everything.

This. And by and large the same cohort goes to magnet ms and magnet hs. Impact on ECs, scholastic teams, internships and college application journey etc is significant and supportive. At least in my kids magnet which was more chilled parents and not the uber-competitive parents of W schools.

But if you're at a W school you don't have to stress about getting into CES/magnets

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:100% CES. They are eliminating ELC. It will be much better at CES.

OP here. Our school has been doing CKLA this year, and it seems fine.

If you are happy with CKLA base curriculum, then decline. Just don't expect any enrichment, when they are offering it in mixed-level classes.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:100% CES. They are eliminating ELC. It will be much better at CES.

OP here. Our school has been doing CKLA this year, and it seems fine.

If everything seems fine, then go ahead and decline. You’d know if your kid really needed the CES. My kid was incredibly frustrated by school in third grade, to the point that they were angry that I hadn’t tried to see if they could skip a grade back when they were in kindergarten (which I don’t believe MCPS would even have allowed because their birthday is nowhere near the cutoff). My kid needed something to change. DC also did magnet middle school and is now in magnet high school. They’re so grateful for the cohort they’ve had, especially in middle school and high school, because although every class has kids who misbehave or are distracting, a large majority of their classmates pay attention in class, learn the material quickly, turn in their work, and can handle a faster pace and deeper discussions. In mixed ability classrooms, my child felt ignored because they were never called on. In the magnet programs, they get to participate more.

I dunno. Sounds like your kid has low frustration tolerance. Most people in the world are average, and kids have to learn how to deal with that before they become insufferable adults. I'm starting to think the real superstar kid is the one who isn't in a social program, mixes with all the normies, and still shines.

DP
I'm starting to think you should not post about things you know nothing about

[Anonymous]

Depends on your exact situation. Weigh the pros and cons and what kid wants.

Mine got accepted to CES in ES before it was a lottery and declined. Totally the right decision. Math at home school was way better as it's not advanced in CES. Overall experience was better at home school plus little sibling was there too and they walked to school together.
Now said kid is in magnet HS and thriving there.

HS not a lottery....yet. Change is coming for HS programs as well but fortunately my kid will be done and will have gotten an incredible HS experience.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:100% CES. They are eliminating ELC. It will be much better at CES.

OP here. Our school has been doing CKLA this year, and it seems fine.

If everything seems fine, then go ahead and decline. You’d know if your kid really needed the CES. My kid was incredibly frustrated by school in third grade, to the point that they were angry that I hadn’t tried to see if they could skip a grade back when they were in kindergarten (which I don’t believe MCPS would even have allowed because their birthday is nowhere near the cutoff). My kid needed something to change. DC also did magnet middle school and is now in magnet high school. They’re so grateful for the cohort they’ve had, especially in middle school and high school, because although every class has kids who misbehave or are distracting, a large majority of their classmates pay attention in class, learn the material quickly, turn in their work, and can handle a faster pace and deeper discussions. In mixed ability classrooms, my child felt ignored because they were never called on. In the magnet programs, they get to participate more.

I dunno. Sounds like your kid has low frustration tolerance. Most people in the world are average, and kids have to learn how to deal with that before they become insufferable adults. I'm starting to think the real superstar kid is the one who isn't in a social program, mixes with all the normies, and still shines.

DP
I'm starting to think you should not post about things you know nothing about

Like that's ever stopped anyone on DCUM before!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:100% CES. They are eliminating ELC. It will be much better at CES.

OP here. Our school has been doing CKLA this year, and it seems fine.

If everything seems fine, then go ahead and decline. You’d know if your kid really needed the CES. My kid was incredibly frustrated by school in third grade, to the point that they were angry that I hadn’t tried to see if they could skip a grade back when they were in kindergarten (which I don’t believe MCPS would even have allowed because their birthday is nowhere near the cutoff). My kid needed something to change. DC also did magnet middle school and is now in magnet high school. They’re so grateful for the cohort they’ve had, especially in middle school and high school, because although every class has kids who misbehave or are distracting, a large majority of their classmates pay attention in class, learn the material quickly, turn in their work, and can handle a faster pace and deeper discussions. In mixed ability classrooms, my child felt ignored because they were never called on. In the magnet programs, they get to participate more.

Faster pace and deeper discussion - that is what CES & magnets provided for my DD. Also, as a female, I could see the way in which peers and adults treated DD as different - often in nice complimentary ways but sometimes meanly and as a result DD began to hide herself at school. That was a clue that she needed to be with a group of intellectual peers like in the CES and magnets.