Group Project Hell

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Group projects were still like this at a Top 20 B-School (before AI, though). The excuses just got more compelling - like "I can't miss my international flight" and "my baby has a cold".

There's an element of truth to the idea that group projects prepare you for life and work. Usually the sucky side.

+1 if you are lucky eventually the slacker pays a price. My son just finished college and had a group project for his capstone. It was for a company. One student was a slacker, bare minimum participation, didn't show up to all meetings. He was frustrated but I told him to just step up and take advantage of his time with the client. It paid off -- DS got a job offer from the company and the slacker didn't.

[Anonymous]

My kid just does the work to get it done. The teacher knows. Every time the lazy kid got a lower grade then the rest of the group.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:In the future you have her do their share.

Yup this is the game with group projects. The smart kid does the whole thing and the dregs get the good grade the smart kid earned.

All so that lazy teachers can grade less.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:She needs to let the teacher know

And the teacher will say it’s OP’s daughters fault for not managing the project.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My kid just does the work to get it done. The teacher knows. Every time the lazy kid got a lower grade then the rest of the group.

My kid made a copy of her most recent group project where she did the work for the slackers. One slacker eventually put good enough work into the main, shared copy last minute. The other didn't, so DD copied her part in to save the grade.

She found out weeks later that she got a higher grade than the slackers (even the slacker that did put work in last minute) based on something someone said, so the teacher knew even though DD didn't say anything about it that I know of.

[Anonymous]

What school district? Graded group projects are illegal in my district, as they should be.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:She needs to let the teacher know

And the teacher will say it’s OP’s daughters fault for not managing the project.

And the principal will say the teacher is violating policy.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Group projects were still like this at a Top 20 B-School (before AI, though). The excuses just got more compelling - like "I can't miss my international flight" and "my baby has a cold".

There's an element of truth to the idea that group projects prepare you for life and work. Usually the sucky side.

B school projects are purely for exercise, though. There's no value in the project itself. Grades don't matter at B school.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:She needs to let the teacher know

And the teacher will say it’s OP’s daughters fault for not managing the project.

100%. I like when the teachers make each person do an eval and state what parts they were responsible for. That helps at least.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:In the future you have her do their share.

Yup this is the game with group projects. The smart kid does the whole thing and the dregs get the good grade the smart kid earned.

All so that lazy teachers can grade less.

+1

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:She needs to let the teacher know

And the teacher will say it’s OP’s daughters fault for not managing the project.

100%. I like when the teachers make each person do an eval and state what parts they were responsible for. That helps at least.

+1 to this. Should be required for group projects.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:In the future you have her do their share.

This. My kid had something similar happen this year. Got a bad grade because the friend didn’t do his part. I spoke to the teacher and he said yeah I’ve had kids lose friendships over group projects. Next time, pick a better partner. This was for a hs class.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:In the future you have her do their share.

This. My kid had something similar happen this year. Got a bad grade because the friend didn’t do his part. I spoke to the teacher and he said yeah I’ve had kids lose friendships over group projects. Next time, pick a better partner. This was for a hs class.

Sometimes you cannot pick partners. They should give the kids the option of doing it alone.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:She needs to let the teacher know

And the teacher will say it’s OP’s daughters fault for not managing the project.

100%. I like when the teachers make each person do an eval and state what parts they were responsible for. That helps at least.

Kids lie. A few years ago my kid got burned. They did a huge amount of work, other kid locked the google doc so no one could see it and claimed they did it all. Teacher let my kid redo the entire assignment after going in and seeing who did what and was nice about it but it really sucked to have to do it again.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:She needs to let the teacher know

And the teacher will say it’s OP’s daughters fault for not managing the project.

100%. I like when the teachers make each person do an eval and state what parts they were responsible for. That helps at least.

Kids lie. A few years ago my kid got burned. They did a huge amount of work, other kid locked the google doc so no one could see it and claimed they did it all. Teacher let my kid redo the entire assignment after going in and seeing who did what and was nice about it but it really sucked to have to do it again.

Wow. That seems like a different scenario. Most bad group project members are just lazy, not sociopathic. At least I hope!