Unsealing DIistrict of Columbia Adoption Records

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I don't think it is a wise idea.

Why on earth not? I cannot imagine why it is a problem? I know who all the parties are, all the relatives, on both sides, as well, and they all know about me. All bio and adoptive parents are dead. There's nothing I don't know about anyone, and vice versa, as I’ve done DNA. No one should be without this knowledge.

So, you think it's not a good idea for me to know:
My actual birthday?
The time and place of my birth?
What was written on my birth record?

Why do you get to know that and not me? I am not a rescue mutt, who, BTW, comes with a lot more information than I actually have.

You don’t get to tell someone else’s story. You are one individual they are another.

Big whoop someone birthed you.

They are their own human. Not your punching bag.

There are many reasons a woman does not want their story told.

Spare us your ridiculous nonsense and get a life no adoptee deserves to ruin life of the mother years later.

Example
My BF was a product of rape insest when she was 11 years old. Her own brother viciously raped her, Her catholic parents shipped her off to a maternity home in Idaho from
Long Island. What do you not understand about that trama ? Those records are sealed for a reason.

Sorry, my birth story is mine. We don't "protect" mothers and fathers from old patriarchal mores anymore. And, additionally, most mothers in the 50s and 60s had no choice about keeping their baby or not. There couldn't be a unmarried mother.

Also, there's no reason for mine or anyone else's, to seal records- we all know who everyone is, including me, due to DNA now. The names of everyone, parents, all siblings, haIf siblings, etc. If you actually read the post you would know that. Lastly, all parent parties are long dead. There's here's no secrets anymore that a sealed record is keeping for me and anyone, other than my actual birthdate and where I was born.

Reading comprehension- try it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don't think it is a wise idea.

Why on earth not? I cannot imagine why it is a problem? I know who all the parties are, all the relatives, on both sides, as well, and they all know about me. All bio and adoptive parents are dead. There's nothing I don't know about anyone, and vice versa, as I’ve done DNA. No one should be without this knowledge.

So, you think it's not a good idea for me to know:
My actual birthday?
The time and place of my birth?
What was written on my birth record?

Why do you get to know that and not me? I am not a rescue mutt, who, BTW, comes with a lot more information than I actually have.

NP - I am a MSW and I actually had a job revealing records to adoptees. It was pretty terrible. You are bursting all of their lifelong fantasies about their parents and how much they were wanted (sometimes this might be true, but usually it was a window into tremendous dysfunction or pain). Even if you think that this isn’t true for you, it is a real risk.

So, we don't lie anymore to adoptees in an effort to create those fantasies in the first place. That ended quite a long time ago. This is all called "coming out of the fog"- a mainstream adoption concept, if you actually are a social worker that deals with adoption, would actually be quite familiar with. The secrets, old social mores of the past, are no longer a "thing." You are likely retired- this does not happen anymore.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:What do your 23 and me and ancestry results say? No one shows up in them?

Yes, I made it clear that all this information is known in my post. Yes, everyone showed up. I"m looking for my birthdate and place of birth.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don't think it is a wise idea.

Why on earth not? I cannot imagine why it is a problem? I know who all the parties are, all the relatives, on both sides, as well, and they all know about me. All bio and adoptive parents are dead. There's nothing I don't know about anyone, and vice versa, as I’ve done DNA. No one should be without this knowledge.

So, you think it's not a good idea for me to know:
My actual birthday?
The time and place of my birth?
What was written on my birth record?

Why do you get to know that and not me? I am not a rescue mutt, who, BTW, comes with a lot more information than I actually have.

You don’t get to tell someone else’s story. You are one individual they are another.

Big whoop someone birthed you.

They are their own human. Not your punching bag.

There are many reasons a woman does not want their story told.

Spare us your ridiculous nonsense and get a life no adoptee deserves to ruin life of the mother years later.

Example
My BF was a product of rape insest when she was 11 years old. Her own brother viciously raped her, Her catholic parents shipped her off to a maternity home in Idaho from
Long Island. What do you not understand about that trama ? Those records are sealed for a reason.

Sorry, my birth story is mine. We don't "protect" mothers and fathers from old patriarchal mores anymore. And, additionally, most mothers in the 50s and 60s had no choice about keeping their baby or not. There couldn't be a unmarried mother.

Also, there's no reason for mine or anyone else's, to seal records- we all know who everyone is, including me, due to DNA now. The names of everyone, parents, all siblings, haIf siblings, etc. If you actually read the post you would know that. Lastly, all parent parties are long dead. There's here's no secrets anymore that a sealed record is keeping for me and anyone, other than my actual birthdate and where I was born.

Reading comprehension- try it.

How do you know who is listed on the records?

[Anonymous]

I think it may be worth it to speak to an attorney. It would cost some money but reduce the hassle.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don't think it is a wise idea.

Why on earth not? I cannot imagine why it is a problem? I know who all the parties are, all the relatives, on both sides, as well, and they all know about me. All bio and adoptive parents are dead. There's nothing I don't know about anyone, and vice versa, as I’ve done DNA. No one should be without this knowledge.

So, you think it's not a good idea for me to know:
My actual birthday?
The time and place of my birth?
What was written on my birth record?

Why do you get to know that and not me? I am not a rescue mutt, who, BTW, comes with a lot more information than I actually have.

You certainly sound like a rescue mutt if you don’t even know what day you were born.

Yes, millions of adoptees don't have their birth information. And yes, dogs come with more information.

Rescue mutts don't come with any of the information listed. Where would you get it?

DNA.

DNA encodes your birthplace and birthdate?

No, but other related dogs show up, oftentimes sibling and parent dogs with general location. Dogs can also be aged with teeth and DNA now, too. And since you are well-bent on this dog comparison to keep posting about rescue dogs- a good proportion of rescues do come with information- people give up dogs to shelters.

Now, perhaps we can move on the the crux of the actual question. Yes, many sdoptees do not have their actual birth day and other pertinent information.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don't think it is a wise idea.

Why on earth not? I cannot imagine why it is a problem? I know who all the parties are, all the relatives, on both sides, as well, and they all know about me. All bio and adoptive parents are dead. There's nothing I don't know about anyone, and vice versa, as I’ve done DNA. No one should be without this knowledge.

So, you think it's not a good idea for me to know:
My actual birthday?
The time and place of my birth?
What was written on my birth record?

Why do you get to know that and not me? I am not a rescue mutt, who, BTW, comes with a lot more information than I actually have.

You certainly sound like a rescue mutt if you don’t even know what day you were born.

Yes, millions of adoptees don't have their birth information. And yes, dogs come with more information.

Rescue mutts don't come with any of the information listed. Where would you get it?

DNA.

DNA encodes your birthplace and birthdate?

No, but other related dogs show up, oftentimes sibling and parent dogs with general location. Dogs can also be aged with teeth and DNA now, too. And since you are well-bent on this dog comparison to keep posting about rescue dogs- a good proportion of rescues do come with information- people give up dogs to shelters.

Now, perhaps we can move on the the crux of the actual question. Yes, many sdoptees do not have their actual birth day and other pertinent information.

I wasn't the one claiming adopted dogs had birthdate information available. Estimating age with teeth is not a birthdate. General location based on related dogs is not a birthplace.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don't think it is a wise idea.

Why on earth not? I cannot imagine why it is a problem? I know who all the parties are, all the relatives, on both sides, as well, and they all know about me. All bio and adoptive parents are dead. There's nothing I don't know about anyone, and vice versa, as I’ve done DNA. No one should be without this knowledge.

So, you think it's not a good idea for me to know:
My actual birthday?
The time and place of my birth?
What was written on my birth record?

Why do you get to know that and not me? I am not a rescue mutt, who, BTW, comes with a lot more information than I actually have.

You don’t get to tell someone else’s story. You are one individual they are another.

Big whoop someone birthed you.

They are their own human. Not your punching bag.

There are many reasons a woman does not want their story told.

Spare us your ridiculous nonsense and get a life no adoptee deserves to ruin life of the mother years later.

Example
My BF was a product of rape insest when she was 11 years old. Her own brother viciously raped her, Her catholic parents shipped her off to a maternity home in Idaho from
Long Island. What do you not understand about that trama ? Those records are sealed for a reason.

Sorry, my birth story is mine. We don't "protect" mothers and fathers from old patriarchal mores anymore. And, additionally, most mothers in the 50s and 60s had no choice about keeping their baby or not. There couldn't be a unmarried mother.

Also, there's no reason for mine or anyone else's, to seal records- we all know who everyone is, including me, due to DNA now. The names of everyone, parents, all siblings, haIf siblings, etc. If you actually read the post you would know that. Lastly, all parent parties are long dead. There's here's no secrets anymore that a sealed record is keeping for me and anyone, other than my actual birthdate and where I was born.

Reading comprehension- try it.

How do you know who is listed on the records?

You have likely never have done a DNA test since you are asking this question. Here's a piece of information you may be interested to know. In your lifetime, even if you never take a DNA test, if someone is looking for you in any capacity, or even if they are not, they can find you very easily even if the closest relative you had that did take a DNA test is as far out as a 5th cousin. If I was looking for you, it would take very little time.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don't think it is a wise idea.

Why on earth not? I cannot imagine why it is a problem? I know who all the parties are, all the relatives, on both sides, as well, and they all know about me. All bio and adoptive parents are dead. There's nothing I don't know about anyone, and vice versa, as I’ve done DNA. No one should be without this knowledge.

So, you think it's not a good idea for me to know:
My actual birthday?
The time and place of my birth?
What was written on my birth record?

Why do you get to know that and not me? I am not a rescue mutt, who, BTW, comes with a lot more information than I actually have.

You don’t get to tell someone else’s story. You are one individual they are another.

Big whoop someone birthed you.

They are their own human. Not your punching bag.

There are many reasons a woman does not want their story told.

Spare us your ridiculous nonsense and get a life no adoptee deserves to ruin life of the mother years later.

Example
My BF was a product of rape insest when she was 11 years old. Her own brother viciously raped her, Her catholic parents shipped her off to a maternity home in Idaho from
Long Island. What do you not understand about that trama ? Those records are sealed for a reason.

Sorry, my birth story is mine. We don't "protect" mothers and fathers from old patriarchal mores anymore. And, additionally, most mothers in the 50s and 60s had no choice about keeping their baby or not. There couldn't be a unmarried mother.

Also, there's no reason for mine or anyone else's, to seal records- we all know who everyone is, including me, due to DNA now. The names of everyone, parents, all siblings, haIf siblings, etc. If you actually read the post you would know that. Lastly, all parent parties are long dead. There's here's no secrets anymore that a sealed record is keeping for me and anyone, other than my actual birthdate and where I was born.

Reading comprehension- try it.

How do you know who is listed on the records?

You have likely never have done a DNA test since you are asking this question. Here's a piece of information you may be interested to know. In your lifetime, even if you never take a DNA test, if someone is looking for you in any capacity, or even if they are not, they can find you very easily even if the closest relative you had that did take a DNA test is as far out as a 5th cousin. If I was looking for you, it would take very little time.

You are assuming the records reflect reality. The mother may have given a different name for the father. Do you know whose name is listed on the record?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don't think it is a wise idea.

Why on earth not? I cannot imagine why it is a problem? I know who all the parties are, all the relatives, on both sides, as well, and they all know about me. All bio and adoptive parents are dead. There's nothing I don't know about anyone, and vice versa, as I’ve done DNA. No one should be without this knowledge.

So, you think it's not a good idea for me to know:
My actual birthday?
The time and place of my birth?
What was written on my birth record?

Why do you get to know that and not me? I am not a rescue mutt, who, BTW, comes with a lot more information than I actually have.

You certainly sound like a rescue mutt if you don’t even know what day you were born.

Yes, millions of adoptees don't have their birth information. And yes, dogs come with more information.

Rescue mutts don't come with any of the information listed. Where would you get it?

DNA.

DNA encodes your birthplace and birthdate?

No, but other related dogs show up, oftentimes sibling and parent dogs with general location. Dogs can also be aged with teeth and DNA now, too. And since you are well-bent on this dog comparison to keep posting about rescue dogs- a good proportion of rescues do come with information- people give up dogs to shelters.

Now, perhaps we can move on the the crux of the actual question. Yes, many sdoptees do not have their actual birth day and other pertinent information.

I wasn't the one claiming adopted dogs had birthdate information available. Estimating age with teeth is not a birthdate. General location based on related dogs is not a birthplace.

Ok then- now you understand why I would like to see my birthdate!

And just so you know, I was able to find one of my dogs birthplace and general age by locating all her siblings in a state. Enough of them, 3, had DNA done and one of the owners gave me the rest of the info. She doesn't care at all, though, understandably. She is a dog. It was fun to know, but it makes little difference other than knowing her age, which does matter down the line. It was just fun.

I kind of do care about my info- I am not a dog.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don't think it is a wise idea.

Why on earth not? I cannot imagine why it is a problem? I know who all the parties are, all the relatives, on both sides, as well, and they all know about me. All bio and adoptive parents are dead. There's nothing I don't know about anyone, and vice versa, as I’ve done DNA. No one should be without this knowledge.

So, you think it's not a good idea for me to know:
My actual birthday?
The time and place of my birth?
What was written on my birth record?

Why do you get to know that and not me? I am not a rescue mutt, who, BTW, comes with a lot more information than I actually have.

You don’t get to tell someone else’s story. You are one individual they are another.

Big whoop someone birthed you.

They are their own human. Not your punching bag.

There are many reasons a woman does not want their story told.

Spare us your ridiculous nonsense and get a life no adoptee deserves to ruin life of the mother years later.

Example
My BF was a product of rape insest when she was 11 years old. Her own brother viciously raped her, Her catholic parents shipped her off to a maternity home in Idaho from
Long Island. What do you not understand about that trama ? Those records are sealed for a reason.

Sorry, my birth story is mine. We don't "protect" mothers and fathers from old patriarchal mores anymore. And, additionally, most mothers in the 50s and 60s had no choice about keeping their baby or not. There couldn't be a unmarried mother.

Also, there's no reason for mine or anyone else's, to seal records- we all know who everyone is, including me, due to DNA now. The names of everyone, parents, all siblings, haIf siblings, etc. If you actually read the post you would know that. Lastly, all parent parties are long dead. There's here's no secrets anymore that a sealed record is keeping for me and anyone, other than my actual birthdate and where I was born.

Reading comprehension- try it.

How do you know who is listed on the records?

You have likely never have done a DNA test since you are asking this question. Here's a piece of information you may be interested to know. In your lifetime, even if you never take a DNA test, if someone is looking for you in any capacity, or even if they are not, they can find you very easily even if the closest relative you had that did take a DNA test is as far out as a 5th cousin. If I was looking for you, it would take very little time.

You are assuming the records reflect reality. The mother may have given a different name for the father. Do you know whose name is listed on the record?

Ok, you don't understand how DNA tests work. Of course my mother didn't take a DNA test. They weren't even available when she was alive.

Yes, I know all parties- everyone on both sides. I found all my paternal siblings within 30 minutes with a third cousins DNA and literally one else's. And this cousin didn't even have his full name printed on the record. You don’t need names. You need only the DNA and years of stored artifacts, most of which are plentiful on the internet. Yes, I know who everyone is, yes they know who I am, everything.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Not all birth families want to be contacted. Not all kids want to be contacted. For DNA to work, you have to submit a sample.

Almost no one in the family has to submit a sample. We can find anyone at all through a even a very distant relative. To put it simply, everyone's DNA is out there.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don't think it is a wise idea.

Why on earth not? I cannot imagine why it is a problem? I know who all the parties are, all the relatives, on both sides, as well, and they all know about me. All bio and adoptive parents are dead. There's nothing I don't know about anyone, and vice versa, as I’ve done DNA. No one should be without this knowledge.

So, you think it's not a good idea for me to know:
My actual birthday?
The time and place of my birth?
What was written on my birth record?

Why do you get to know that and not me? I am not a rescue mutt, who, BTW, comes with a lot more information than I actually have.

Was your original bc changed? Why do you think your birthday and stuff was changed. My child's all stayed the same and the only thing that changed was the parents names (and we have originals before it was changed).

Because many children were literally brokered by third parties. Millions of adoptees had this happen.

The bc in the us would not change. International, yes

You are incorrect. In private adoption, new birth certificates were often altered. It was largely a lot of human trafficking, under the guise of adoption.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don't think it is a wise idea.

Why on earth not? I cannot imagine why it is a problem? I know who all the parties are, all the relatives, on both sides, as well, and they all know about me. All bio and adoptive parents are dead. There's nothing I don't know about anyone, and vice versa, as I’ve done DNA. No one should be without this knowledge.

So, you think it's not a good idea for me to know:
My actual birthday?
The time and place of my birth?
What was written on my birth record?

Why do you get to know that and not me? I am not a rescue mutt, who, BTW, comes with a lot more information than I actually have.

You don’t get to tell someone else’s story. You are one individual they are another.

Big whoop someone birthed you.

They are their own human. Not your punching bag.

There are many reasons a woman does not want their story told.

Spare us your ridiculous nonsense and get a life no adoptee deserves to ruin life of the mother years later.

Example
My BF was a product of rape insest when she was 11 years old. Her own brother viciously raped her, Her catholic parents shipped her off to a maternity home in Idaho from
Long Island. What do you not understand about that trama ? Those records are sealed for a reason.

Sorry, my birth story is mine. We don't "protect" mothers and fathers from old patriarchal mores anymore. And, additionally, most mothers in the 50s and 60s had no choice about keeping their baby or not. There couldn't be a unmarried mother.

Also, there's no reason for mine or anyone else's, to seal records- we all know who everyone is, including me, due to DNA now. The names of everyone, parents, all siblings, haIf siblings, etc. If you actually read the post you would know that. Lastly, all parent parties are long dead. There's here's no secrets anymore that a sealed record is keeping for me and anyone, other than my actual birthdate and where I was born.

Reading comprehension- try it.

How do you know who is listed on the records?

You have likely never have done a DNA test since you are asking this question. Here's a piece of information you may be interested to know. In your lifetime, even if you never take a DNA test, if someone is looking for you in any capacity, or even if they are not, they can find you very easily even if the closest relative you had that did take a DNA test is as far out as a 5th cousin. If I was looking for you, it would take very little time.

You are assuming the records reflect reality. The mother may have given a different name for the father. Do you know whose name is listed on the record?

I think you may be under the impression that a DNA test produces a birth record. There are artifacts, yes, online, but no, DNA only shows DNA- which connects to other DNA.

And yes, when I find my original record, the father's name will not be the actual father- I already know that. Another fun fact- millions of people all over the world who are not adopted have learned that their fathers were not actually their fathers, through DNA testing. It’s common, and it is called a non- parent event.

However I have known, through DNA, who the father actually was. I am not looking for my parents at all. I already know who they were. I am looking for my birthdate and place.

[Anonymous]

If you know your birth mother and roughly how old you are, you could hire a PI and they should be able to find a birth record for you.