ECNL Girls- Strongest /Weakest Conferences (and everything in-between)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:No one is interested in ECNL anymore.

All the good players on my DD’s ECNL team left for GA.

I get that this is a troll post, but for other parents who might stumble onto this thread:

For now, ECNL is the top of the girls soccer pyramid for college recruiting. This is in large part to limited college coaching travel and recruiting budgets coupled with ECNL executives doing a very good job of making showcases easy to navigate for college coaches who attend.

None of this speaks to the quality of ECNL clubs or coaches. Many GA clubs and coaches have great programs and may be a good fit for your kid. Your GA team may in fact be significantly better than many ECNL teams. None of that matters. College coaches recruit players, not teams.

The side effect of ECNL having a better showcase program for college coaches is that ECNL has greater depth and, ON AVERAGE, better players; or at least players who can handle the expected physicality and speed of play that is normal in college.

If your kid wants to play in college and has offers from both a GA team and ECNL teams- congrats, your kid is pretty good at soccer. If your kid is already in HS, the coach only sorta matters, take ECNL. If your kid is only 12 or 13, then you have to figure out which coach will be better, commute times, cost, etc.

My first DD went GA to ECNL. It made a difference in recruiting. Second kid is finishing in an ECNL club, so I can’t speak to GA this year, but she did decide to stick with a coach she was sick of just for recruiting reasons.

That’s great. ECNL is falling apart, especially in this area.

[Anonymous]

Previous post said it all. Coaches recruit players not teams or leagues.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:No one is interested in ECNL anymore.

All the good players on my DD’s ECNL team left for GA.

I get that this is a troll post, but for other parents who might stumble onto this thread:

For now, ECNL is the top of the girls soccer pyramid for college recruiting. This is in large part to limited college coaching travel and recruiting budgets coupled with ECNL executives doing a very good job of making showcases easy to navigate for college coaches who attend.

None of this speaks to the quality of ECNL clubs or coaches. Many GA clubs and coaches have great programs and may be a good fit for your kid. Your GA team may in fact be significantly better than many ECNL teams. None of that matters. College coaches recruit players, not teams.

The side effect of ECNL having a better showcase program for college coaches is that ECNL has greater depth and, ON AVERAGE, better players; or at least players who can handle the expected physicality and speed of play that is normal in college.

If your kid wants to play in college and has offers from both a GA team and ECNL teams- congrats, your kid is pretty good at soccer. If your kid is already in HS, the coach only sorta matters, take ECNL. If your kid is only 12 or 13, then you have to figure out which coach will be better, commute times, cost, etc.

My first DD went GA to ECNL. It made a difference in recruiting. Second kid is finishing in an ECNL club, so I can’t speak to GA this year, but she did decide to stick with a coach she was sick of just for recruiting reasons.

That’s great. ECNL is falling apart, especially in this area.

But VDA remains top…

[Anonymous]

Depends on age group every year. No region is stronger top to bottom except Southwest.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Depends on age group every year. No region is stronger top to bottom except Southwest.

I dosages with this. Southwest and Texas are ALWAYS the top 2. And I would say SE, Ohio , and NW are always at the bottom. Look at nationals/playoff qualification. Look at national team call ups. Look at college recruitment. I'd argue that most of it is due to player pool/population size

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Depends on age group every year. No region is stronger top to bottom except Southwest.

I dosages with this. Southwest and Texas are ALWAYS the top 2. And I would say SE, Ohio , and NW are always at the bottom. Look at nationals/playoff qualification. Look at national team call ups. Look at college recruitment. I'd argue that most of it is due to player pool/population size

I'd argue it's mostly cultural/weather. NE has plenty of population but it's spread out across a ton of sports/interests and the weather sucks a large majority of the year. SW/Texas can be outside for the full year (RIP that Texas summer heat though) and have a population that loves soccer.

And to keep the argument going the North Atlantic is far better than the Mid Atlantic at almost every age group.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Depends on age group every year. No region is stronger top to bottom except Southwest.

I dosages with this. Southwest and Texas are ALWAYS the top 2. And I would say SE, Ohio , and NW are always at the bottom. Look at nationals/playoff qualification. Look at national team call ups. Look at college recruitment. I'd argue that most of it is due to player pool/population size

I'd argue it's mostly cultural/weather. NE has plenty of population but it's spread out across a ton of sports/interests and the weather sucks a large majority of the year. SW/Texas can be outside for the full year (RIP that Texas summer heat though) and have a population that loves soccer.

And to keep the argument going the North Atlantic is far better than the Mid Atlantic at almost every age group.

This is correct.

In Socal if players, coaches, and parents had infinite money and time the could do tournaments and friendlies every weekend of the year. Combine that with 4 days a week practices and on Friday/Sunday nights kids can do latin leagues or futsal.

Here's another thing about Socal. You hear about all the big MLSN, GA, ECNL clubs but theres literally 100s of smaller clubs that participate in leagues you never hear about. The big clubs keep an eye on this teams and other teams that they play against looking to recruit talent.

Finally when you play a top Socal team often you're playing against a superteam of all the best players from 4-5 other teams. I realize a lot of clubs do this but in Socal theres just so much more talent bubbleing up to top teams.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:No one is interested in ECNL anymore.

All the good players on my DD’s ECNL team left for GA.

I get that this is a troll post, but for other parents who might stumble onto this thread:

For now, ECNL is the top of the girls soccer pyramid for college recruiting. This is in large part to limited college coaching travel and recruiting budgets coupled with ECNL executives doing a very good job of making showcases easy to navigate for college coaches who attend.

None of this speaks to the quality of ECNL clubs or coaches. Many GA clubs and coaches have great programs and may be a good fit for your kid. Your GA team may in fact be significantly better than many ECNL teams. None of that matters. College coaches recruit players, not teams.

The side effect of ECNL having a better showcase program for college coaches is that ECNL has greater depth and, ON AVERAGE, better players; or at least players who can handle the expected physicality and speed of play that is normal in college.

If your kid wants to play in college and has offers from both a GA team and ECNL teams- congrats, your kid is pretty good at soccer. If your kid is already in HS, the coach only sorta matters, take ECNL. If your kid is only 12 or 13, then you have to figure out which coach will be better, commute times, cost, etc.

My first DD went GA to ECNL. It made a difference in recruiting. Second kid is finishing in an ECNL club, so I can’t speak to GA this year, but she did decide to stick with a coach she was sick of just for recruiting reasons.

That’s great. ECNL is falling apart, especially in this area.

Why would you say that? GA has made no inroads anywhere. Only falling apart in the minds of people who believe there is some sort of MLSNext deal with GA that will make teams move. IMO there is no such deal and even if they were most ECNL teams would stay.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Depends on age group every year. No region is stronger top to bottom except Southwest.

I dosages with this. Southwest and Texas are ALWAYS the top 2. And I would say SE, Ohio , and NW are always at the bottom. Look at nationals/playoff qualification. Look at national team call ups. Look at college recruitment. I'd argue that most of it is due to player pool/population size

I'd argue it's mostly cultural/weather. NE has plenty of population but it's spread out across a ton of sports/interests and the weather sucks a large majority of the year. SW/Texas can be outside for the full year (RIP that Texas summer heat though) and have a population that loves soccer.

And to keep the argument going the North Atlantic is far better than the Mid Atlantic at almost every age group.

Who cares? not really important. You live where you live.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:No one is interested in ECNL anymore.

All the good players on my DD’s ECNL team left for GA.

I get that this is a troll post, but for other parents who might stumble onto this thread:

For now, ECNL is the top of the girls soccer pyramid for college recruiting. This is in large part to limited college coaching travel and recruiting budgets coupled with ECNL executives doing a very good job of making showcases easy to navigate for college coaches who attend.

None of this speaks to the quality of ECNL clubs or coaches. Many GA clubs and coaches have great programs and may be a good fit for your kid. Your GA team may in fact be significantly better than many ECNL teams. None of that matters. College coaches recruit players, not teams.

The side effect of ECNL having a better showcase program for college coaches is that ECNL has greater depth and, ON AVERAGE, better players; or at least players who can handle the expected physicality and speed of play that is normal in college.

If your kid wants to play in college and has offers from both a GA team and ECNL teams- congrats, your kid is pretty good at soccer. If your kid is already in HS, the coach only sorta matters, take ECNL. If your kid is only 12 or 13, then you have to figure out which coach will be better, commute times, cost, etc.

My first DD went GA to ECNL. It made a difference in recruiting. Second kid is finishing in an ECNL club, so I can’t speak to GA this year, but she did decide to stick with a coach she was sick of just for recruiting reasons.

That’s great. ECNL is falling apart, especially in this area.

Why would you say that? GA has made no inroads anywhere. Only falling apart in the minds of people who believe there is some sort of MLSNext deal with GA that will make teams move. IMO there is no such deal and even if they were most ECNL teams would stay.

First they ignore GA
Then they laugh at GA
Then they fight GA
Then GA wins

What stage are you in?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:No one is interested in ECNL anymore.

All the good players on my DD’s ECNL team left for GA.

I get that this is a troll post, but for other parents who might stumble onto this thread:

For now, ECNL is the top of the girls soccer pyramid for college recruiting. This is in large part to limited college coaching travel and recruiting budgets coupled with ECNL executives doing a very good job of making showcases easy to navigate for college coaches who attend.

None of this speaks to the quality of ECNL clubs or coaches. Many GA clubs and coaches have great programs and may be a good fit for your kid. Your GA team may in fact be significantly better than many ECNL teams. None of that matters. College coaches recruit players, not teams.

The side effect of ECNL having a better showcase program for college coaches is that ECNL has greater depth and, ON AVERAGE, better players; or at least players who can handle the expected physicality and speed of play that is normal in college.

If your kid wants to play in college and has offers from both a GA team and ECNL teams- congrats, your kid is pretty good at soccer. If your kid is already in HS, the coach only sorta matters, take ECNL. If your kid is only 12 or 13, then you have to figure out which coach will be better, commute times, cost, etc.

My first DD went GA to ECNL. It made a difference in recruiting. Second kid is finishing in an ECNL club, so I can’t speak to GA this year, but she did decide to stick with a coach she was sick of just for recruiting reasons.

That’s great. ECNL is falling apart, especially in this area.

Why would you say that? GA has made no inroads anywhere. Only falling apart in the minds of people who believe there is some sort of MLSNext deal with GA that will make teams move. IMO there is no such deal and even if they were most ECNL teams would stay.

First they ignore GA
Then they laugh at GA
Then they fight GA
Then GA wins

What stage are you in?

GA peeps be like...
"You're an anti-Semite if you don't support GA"

[Anonymous]

Whats ECNL? Is that the league below GA? asking for a friend that is looking for a soccer team for her DD.

[Anonymous]

Yes, this line of thinking is why we have an awesome government right now.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Depends on age group every year. No region is stronger top to bottom except Southwest.

I dosages with this. Southwest and Texas are ALWAYS the top 2. And I would say SE, Ohio , and NW are always at the bottom. Look at nationals/playoff qualification. Look at national team call ups. Look at college recruitment. I'd argue that most of it is due to player pool/population size

I'd argue it's mostly cultural/weather. NE has plenty of population but it's spread out across a ton of sports/interests and the weather sucks a large majority of the year. SW/Texas can be outside for the full year (RIP that Texas summer heat though) and have a population that loves soccer.

And to keep the argument going the North Atlantic is far better than the Mid Atlantic at almost every age group.

Who cares? not really important. You live where you live.

We're literally in a discussion about national leagues. I'm stating an opinion. It matters because some teams look like world beaters locally/regionally and aren't even close on a national stage.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Depends on age group every year. No region is stronger top to bottom except Southwest.

I dosages with this. Southwest and Texas are ALWAYS the top 2. And I would say SE, Ohio , and NW are always at the bottom. Look at nationals/playoff qualification. Look at national team call ups. Look at college recruitment. I'd argue that most of it is due to player pool/population size

I'd argue it's mostly cultural/weather. NE has plenty of population but it's spread out across a ton of sports/interests and the weather sucks a large majority of the year. SW/Texas can be outside for the full year (RIP that Texas summer heat though) and have a population that loves soccer.

And to keep the argument going the North Atlantic is far better than the Mid Atlantic at almost every age group.

This is correct.

In Socal if players, coaches, and parents had infinite money and time the could do tournaments and friendlies every weekend of the year. Combine that with 4 days a week practices and on Friday/Sunday nights kids can do latin leagues or futsal.

Here's another thing about Socal. You hear about all the big MLSN, GA, ECNL clubs but theres literally 100s of smaller clubs that participate in leagues you never hear about. The big clubs keep an eye on this teams and other teams that they play against looking to recruit talent.

Finally when you play a top Socal team often you're playing against a superteam of all the best players from 4-5 other teams. I realize a lot of clubs do this but in Socal theres just so much more talent bubbleing up to top teams.

What you are describing is why Matchfit 2012 are no longer qualified.