June waitlist data is up!

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Anonymous wrote:Wow, 12 non-feeder offers for Spanish at DCI.

Could that also be showing the waitlisted students of one feeder using the excess seats allocated to another feeder?

Actually I checked the DCI board meeting minutes for the May 15 meeting and it says "11 member school applicants on a waitlist on Results Day were offered a seat at DCI." So there's one unexplained I guess.

Looking at DCI's 6th grade lottery data, seems like the waitlists for Spanish were 0 kids from DCB, 11 from Stokes Brookland, 0 from Stokes EE, 0 from LAMB, and 0 from Calle Ocho but 2 from Cook. 2 offers were made to Cook and 11 to Stokes, so 13 total offers. Perhaps someone declined their offer.

Actually no, I think I analyzed this wrong. There were the above listed offers on the member schools' waitlist data, you can select each member school under DCI in the drop-down, but then there were *also* 12 offers on the non-feeder option. I don't think those are the same offers. So it was 11 (or 13) to member schools and then 12 more. But maybe I'm doing this wrong.

On the non-feeder page, the "Matches by Preference Group" table is all zeros (including the no-preference cell), which is what led to my question. I'm still leaning toward the 12 showing the use of seats originally assigned to another feeder (probably LAMB).

Right but those are just matches not waitlist offers.

I thought incorrectly that the matches table was updated as WL offers went out; now I have no inclination what's going on.[/


There are not 12 non-feeder offers. It just says 12 off the spanish waitlist at DCI. Those kids are from feeders because you can see that there were more spanish kids at Stokes Brookland than spots.

Whatever leftover spanish seats from any feeder schools are filled by feeder schools who need more spots. That is how it works. So all feeder kids got spots. If any leftover, then sibling is next.

There is no chance for non-feeder families in the spanish track moving forward where there will be more feeder kids in the pipeline.

But isn't it double-counting to make the same 12 waitlisted kids offers on their own school's waitlist and also on the non-feeder waitlist?

Why do you think it’s a non-feeder waitlist? It does not say that. I’m assuming it’s the general waitlist overall and then it’s broken down to more details about specific feeder waitlist.

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Anonymous wrote:Wow, 12 non-feeder offers for Spanish at DCI.

Could that also be showing the waitlisted students of one feeder using the excess seats allocated to another feeder?

Actually I checked the DCI board meeting minutes for the May 15 meeting and it says "11 member school applicants on a waitlist on Results Day were offered a seat at DCI." So there's one unexplained I guess.

Looking at DCI's 6th grade lottery data, seems like the waitlists for Spanish were 0 kids from DCB, 11 from Stokes Brookland, 0 from Stokes EE, 0 from LAMB, and 0 from Calle Ocho but 2 from Cook. 2 offers were made to Cook and 11 to Stokes, so 13 total offers. Perhaps someone declined their offer.

Actually no, I think I analyzed this wrong. There were the above listed offers on the member schools' waitlist data, you can select each member school under DCI in the drop-down, but then there were *also* 12 offers on the non-feeder option. I don't think those are the same offers. So it was 11 (or 13) to member schools and then 12 more. But maybe I'm doing this wrong.

On the non-feeder page, the "Matches by Preference Group" table is all zeros (including the no-preference cell), which is what led to my question. I'm still leaning toward the 12 showing the use of seats originally assigned to another feeder (probably LAMB).

Right but those are just matches not waitlist offers.

I thought incorrectly that the matches table was updated as WL offers went out; now I have no inclination what's going on.[/


There are not 12 non-feeder offers. It just says 12 off the spanish waitlist at DCI. Those kids are from feeders because you can see that there were more spanish kids at Stokes Brookland than spots.

Whatever leftover spanish seats from any feeder schools are filled by feeder schools who need more spots. That is how it works. So all feeder kids got spots. If any leftover, then sibling is next.

There is no chance for non-feeder families in the spanish track moving forward where there will be more feeder kids in the pipeline.

But isn't it double-counting to make the same 12 waitlisted kids offers on their own school's waitlist and also on the non-feeder waitlist?

Why do you think it’s a non-feeder waitlist? It does not say that. I’m assuming it’s the general waitlist overall and then it’s broken down to more details about specific feeder waitlist.

Because each feeder has its own waitlist in the drop-down menu. The non-feeder waitlist is the one with no feeder school listed.

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I don't understand the MacArthur numbers. If a class is supposed to be about 200 students, how can they offer so many seats and match 185 in the lottery? More than 15 students will be attending from Hardy!

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Anonymous wrote:I don't understand the MacArthur numbers. If a class is supposed to be about 200 students, how can they offer so many seats and match 185 in the lottery? More than 15 students will be attending from Hardy!

What is not to understand? Many of the kids who listed MacArthur matched with schools they ranked higher.

If you think it's too many, remember that there's a lot of waitlist movement in the summer so not all 185 matched will actually attend.

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Anonymous wrote:I don't understand the MacArthur numbers. If a class is supposed to be about 200 students, how can they offer so many seats and match 185 in the lottery? More than 15 students will be attending from Hardy!

What is not to understand? Many of the kids who listed MacArthur matched with schools they ranked higher.

If you think it's too many, remember that there's a lot of waitlist movement in the summer so not all 185 matched will actually attend.

+1 matched does not always mean attend. Families will drop out, decide not to attend, get in off the waitlist of a school they ranked higher.

Plus Hardy does not have a big class and from past trend a significant number of students did not attend

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Anonymous wrote:I don't understand the MacArthur numbers. If a class is supposed to be about 200 students, how can they offer so many seats and match 185 in the lottery? More than 15 students will be attending from Hardy!

What is not to understand? Many of the kids who listed MacArthur matched with schools they ranked higher.

If you think it's too many, remember that there's a lot of waitlist movement in the summer so not all 185 matched will actually attend.

+1 matched does not always mean attend. Families will drop out, decide not to attend, get in off the waitlist of a school they ranked higher.

Plus Hardy does not have a big class and from past trend a significant number of students did not attend

Hardy 8th grade is about 180 students, and they no longer have the option of J-R. I do think a whole bunch are going to Banneker , Walls, or private. But that should leave 100 or so, right?

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Anonymous wrote:Wow, 12 non-feeder offers for Spanish at DCI.

Could that also be showing the waitlisted students of one feeder using the excess seats allocated to another feeder?

Actually I checked the DCI board meeting minutes for the May 15 meeting and it says "11 member school applicants on a waitlist on Results Day were offered a seat at DCI." So there's one unexplained I guess.

Looking at DCI's 6th grade lottery data, seems like the waitlists for Spanish were 0 kids from DCB, 11 from Stokes Brookland, 0 from Stokes EE, 0 from LAMB, and 0 from Calle Ocho but 2 from Cook. 2 offers were made to Cook and 11 to Stokes, so 13 total offers. Perhaps someone declined their offer.

Actually no, I think I analyzed this wrong. There were the above listed offers on the member schools' waitlist data, you can select each member school under DCI in the drop-down, but then there were *also* 12 offers on the non-feeder option. I don't think those are the same offers. So it was 11 (or 13) to member schools and then 12 more. But maybe I'm doing this wrong.

On the non-feeder page, the "Matches by Preference Group" table is all zeros (including the no-preference cell), which is what led to my question. I'm still leaning toward the 12 showing the use of seats originally assigned to another feeder (probably LAMB).

Right but those are just matches not waitlist offers.

I thought incorrectly that the matches table was updated as WL offers went out; now I have no inclination what's going on.[/


There are not 12 non-feeder offers. It just says 12 off the spanish waitlist at DCI. Those kids are from feeders because you can see that there were more spanish kids at Stokes Brookland than spots.

Whatever leftover spanish seats from any feeder schools are filled by feeder schools who need more spots. That is how it works. So all feeder kids got spots. If any leftover, then sibling is next.

There is no chance for non-feeder families in the spanish track moving forward where there will be more feeder kids in the pipeline.

But isn't it double-counting to make the same 12 waitlisted kids offers on their own school's waitlist and also on the non-feeder waitlist?

Why do you think it’s a non-feeder waitlist? It does not say that. I’m assuming it’s the general waitlist overall and then it’s broken down to more details about specific feeder waitlist.

Because each feeder has its own waitlist in the drop-down menu. The non-feeder waitlist is the one with no feeder school listed.

It doesn’t mean that it’s a non-feeder waitlist. What happens is that the school does the feeder numbers first and fill the spots first with designated feeder school seats. If there are more kids then spots they are waitlisted and go to the top of the general waitlist which PP above assumes incorrectly is for non-feeder kids.

Once all above is done with each school, they know how many feeder spots then are unfilled. Then they go to the general waitlist which has feeder kids at the top who did not get their feeder school spot. That is what they mean when they say feeder kids can get any feeder school spots and not just from their own school.

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Anonymous wrote:Wow, 12 non-feeder offers for Spanish at DCI.

Could that also be showing the waitlisted students of one feeder using the excess seats allocated to another feeder?

Actually I checked the DCI board meeting minutes for the May 15 meeting and it says "11 member school applicants on a waitlist on Results Day were offered a seat at DCI." So there's one unexplained I guess.

Looking at DCI's 6th grade lottery data, seems like the waitlists for Spanish were 0 kids from DCB, 11 from Stokes Brookland, 0 from Stokes EE, 0 from LAMB, and 0 from Calle Ocho but 2 from Cook. 2 offers were made to Cook and 11 to Stokes, so 13 total offers. Perhaps someone declined their offer.

Actually no, I think I analyzed this wrong. There were the above listed offers on the member schools' waitlist data, you can select each member school under DCI in the drop-down, but then there were *also* 12 offers on the non-feeder option. I don't think those are the same offers. So it was 11 (or 13) to member schools and then 12 more. But maybe I'm doing this wrong.

On the non-feeder page, the "Matches by Preference Group" table is all zeros (including the no-preference cell), which is what led to my question. I'm still leaning toward the 12 showing the use of seats originally assigned to another feeder (probably LAMB).

Right but those are just matches not waitlist offers.

I thought incorrectly that the matches table was updated as WL offers went out; now I have no inclination what's going on.[/


There are not 12 non-feeder offers. It just says 12 off the spanish waitlist at DCI. Those kids are from feeders because you can see that there were more spanish kids at Stokes Brookland than spots.

Whatever leftover spanish seats from any feeder schools are filled by feeder schools who need more spots. That is how it works. So all feeder kids got spots. If any leftover, then sibling is next.

There is no chance for non-feeder families in the spanish track moving forward where there will be more feeder kids in the pipeline.

But isn't it double-counting to make the same 12 waitlisted kids offers on their own school's waitlist and also on the non-feeder waitlist?

Why do you think it’s a non-feeder waitlist? It does not say that. I’m assuming it’s the general waitlist overall and then it’s broken down to more details about specific feeder waitlist.

Because each feeder has its own waitlist in the drop-down menu. The non-feeder waitlist is the one with no feeder school listed.

It doesn’t mean that it’s a non-feeder waitlist. What happens is that the school does the feeder numbers first and fill the spots first with designated feeder school seats. If there are more kids then spots they are waitlisted and go to the top of the general waitlist which PP above assumes incorrectly is for non-feeder kids.

Once all above is done with each school, they know how many feeder spots then are unfilled. Then they go to the general waitlist which has feeder kids at the top who did not get their feeder school spot. That is what they mean when they say feeder kids can get any feeder school spots and not just from their own school.

But why does it show waitlist offers being made on the feeder school waitlists? Are offers made to those kids being counted twice?

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Anonymous wrote:Ooh!

Looks like lots of offers from Mundo and TR. Very few at ITDS. Not so many at Seaton, Garrison, and Langley.

Few at Walls. McKinley and Banneker didn't create waitlists.

I’m guessing regarding Mundo there has been a lot offers at Calle Ocho due to new Pre-K students needing to go to P st for one year during construction. I could see not wanting to deal with that and trying again next year.

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Anonymous wrote:Wow, 12 non-feeder offers for Spanish at DCI.

Could that also be showing the waitlisted students of one feeder using the excess seats allocated to another feeder?

Actually I checked the DCI board meeting minutes for the May 15 meeting and it says "11 member school applicants on a waitlist on Results Day were offered a seat at DCI." So there's one unexplained I guess.

Looking at DCI's 6th grade lottery data, seems like the waitlists for Spanish were 0 kids from DCB, 11 from Stokes Brookland, 0 from Stokes EE, 0 from LAMB, and 0 from Calle Ocho but 2 from Cook. 2 offers were made to Cook and 11 to Stokes, so 13 total offers. Perhaps someone declined their offer.

Actually no, I think I analyzed this wrong. There were the above listed offers on the member schools' waitlist data, you can select each member school under DCI in the drop-down, but then there were *also* 12 offers on the non-feeder option. I don't think those are the same offers. So it was 11 (or 13) to member schools and then 12 more. But maybe I'm doing this wrong.

On the non-feeder page, the "Matches by Preference Group" table is all zeros (including the no-preference cell), which is what led to my question. I'm still leaning toward the 12 showing the use of seats originally assigned to another feeder (probably LAMB).

Right but those are just matches not waitlist offers.

I thought incorrectly that the matches table was updated as WL offers went out; now I have no inclination what's going on.[/


There are not 12 non-feeder offers. It just says 12 off the spanish waitlist at DCI. Those kids are from feeders because you can see that there were more spanish kids at Stokes Brookland than spots.

Whatever leftover spanish seats from any feeder schools are filled by feeder schools who need more spots. That is how it works. So all feeder kids got spots. If any leftover, then sibling is next.

There is no chance for non-feeder families in the spanish track moving forward where there will be more feeder kids in the pipeline.

But isn't it double-counting to make the same 12 waitlisted kids offers on their own school's waitlist and also on the non-feeder waitlist?

Why do you think it’s a non-feeder waitlist? It does not say that. I’m assuming it’s the general waitlist overall and then it’s broken down to more details about specific feeder waitlist.

Because each feeder has its own waitlist in the drop-down menu. The non-feeder waitlist is the one with no feeder school listed.

It doesn’t mean that it’s a non-feeder waitlist. What happens is that the school does the feeder numbers first and fill the spots first with designated feeder school seats. If there are more kids then spots they are waitlisted and go to the top of the general waitlist which PP above assumes incorrectly is for non-feeder kids.

Once all above is done with each school, they know how many feeder spots then are unfilled. Then they go to the general waitlist which has feeder kids at the top who did not get their feeder school spot. That is what they mean when they say feeder kids can get any feeder school spots and not just from their own school.

But why does it show waitlist offers being made on the feeder school waitlists? Are offers made to those kids being counted twice?

Yes counted on feeder school and counted on general waitlist.

The whole point the feeder school waitlist was created was specifically for families at feeder schools so they can see what trend is as feeder schools expand and there might not be enough seats offered in the initial lottery matched. As you can see, even feeder kids are waitlisted, but as some schools don’t fill all their seats, then these waitlisted kids got all those seats till no feeder kid was waitlisted at all now.

Reality is just accept that if you are not at a feeder school, you will not get a spanish seat at DCI. Makes life easier to plan and move on to other options instead of obsessing about waitlist.

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Anonymous wrote:Wow, 12 non-feeder offers for Spanish at DCI.

Could that also be showing the waitlisted students of one feeder using the excess seats allocated to another feeder?

Actually I checked the DCI board meeting minutes for the May 15 meeting and it says "11 member school applicants on a waitlist on Results Day were offered a seat at DCI." So there's one unexplained I guess.

Looking at DCI's 6th grade lottery data, seems like the waitlists for Spanish were 0 kids from DCB, 11 from Stokes Brookland, 0 from Stokes EE, 0 from LAMB, and 0 from Calle Ocho but 2 from Cook. 2 offers were made to Cook and 11 to Stokes, so 13 total offers. Perhaps someone declined their offer.

Actually no, I think I analyzed this wrong. There were the above listed offers on the member schools' waitlist data, you can select each member school under DCI in the drop-down, but then there were *also* 12 offers on the non-feeder option. I don't think those are the same offers. So it was 11 (or 13) to member schools and then 12 more. But maybe I'm doing this wrong.

On the non-feeder page, the "Matches by Preference Group" table is all zeros (including the no-preference cell), which is what led to my question. I'm still leaning toward the 12 showing the use of seats originally assigned to another feeder (probably LAMB).

Right but those are just matches not waitlist offers.

I thought incorrectly that the matches table was updated as WL offers went out; now I have no inclination what's going on.[/


There are not 12 non-feeder offers. It just says 12 off the spanish waitlist at DCI. Those kids are from feeders because you can see that there were more spanish kids at Stokes Brookland than spots.

Whatever leftover spanish seats from any feeder schools are filled by feeder schools who need more spots. That is how it works. So all feeder kids got spots. If any leftover, then sibling is next.

There is no chance for non-feeder families in the spanish track moving forward where there will be more feeder kids in the pipeline.

But isn't it double-counting to make the same 12 waitlisted kids offers on their own school's waitlist and also on the non-feeder waitlist?

Why do you think it’s a non-feeder waitlist? It does not say that. I’m assuming it’s the general waitlist overall and then it’s broken down to more details about specific feeder waitlist.

Because each feeder has its own waitlist in the drop-down menu. The non-feeder waitlist is the one with no feeder school listed.

It doesn’t mean that it’s a non-feeder waitlist. What happens is that the school does the feeder numbers first and fill the spots first with designated feeder school seats. If there are more kids then spots they are waitlisted and go to the top of the general waitlist which PP above assumes incorrectly is for non-feeder kids.

Once all above is done with each school, they know how many feeder spots then are unfilled. Then they go to the general waitlist which has feeder kids at the top who did not get their feeder school spot. That is what they mean when they say feeder kids can get any feeder school spots and not just from their own school.

But why does it show waitlist offers being made on the feeder school waitlists? Are offers made to those kids being counted twice?

Yes counted on feeder school and counted on general waitlist.

The whole point the feeder school waitlist was created was specifically for families at feeder schools so they can see what trend is as feeder schools expand and there might not be enough seats offered in the initial lottery matched. As you can see, even feeder kids are waitlisted, but as some schools don’t fill all their seats, then these waitlisted kids got all those seats till no feeder kid was waitlisted at all now.

Reality is just accept that if you are not at a feeder school, you will not get a spanish seat at DCI. Makes life easier to plan and move on to other options instead of obsessing about waitlist.

So if someone on a feeder school waitlist gets an offer and it shows up on their feeder school table in the data, are they being offered a seat allocated to their feeder that someone else declined? Or are they being offered a seat allocated to another feeder?

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Did John Francis EC not offer any lottery seats for the MS grades?

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Anonymous wrote:Did John Francis EC not offer any lottery seats for the MS grades?

That makes sense... They are going to have a HUGE increase in middle school students next year since Seaton, Garrison and Cleveland now have by-right feeder seats. Can confirm that many Seaton 5th graders plan to go to Francis next year.

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Anonymous wrote:Wow, 12 non-feeder offers for Spanish at DCI.

Could that also be showing the waitlisted students of one feeder using the excess seats allocated to another feeder?

Actually I checked the DCI board meeting minutes for the May 15 meeting and it says "11 member school applicants on a waitlist on Results Day were offered a seat at DCI." So there's one unexplained I guess.

Looking at DCI's 6th grade lottery data, seems like the waitlists for Spanish were 0 kids from DCB, 11 from Stokes Brookland, 0 from Stokes EE, 0 from LAMB, and 0 from Calle Ocho but 2 from Cook. 2 offers were made to Cook and 11 to Stokes, so 13 total offers. Perhaps someone declined their offer.

Actually no, I think I analyzed this wrong. There were the above listed offers on the member schools' waitlist data, you can select each member school under DCI in the drop-down, but then there were *also* 12 offers on the non-feeder option. I don't think those are the same offers. So it was 11 (or 13) to member schools and then 12 more. But maybe I'm doing this wrong.

On the non-feeder page, the "Matches by Preference Group" table is all zeros (including the no-preference cell), which is what led to my question. I'm still leaning toward the 12 showing the use of seats originally assigned to another feeder (probably LAMB).

Right but those are just matches not waitlist offers.

I thought incorrectly that the matches table was updated as WL offers went out; now I have no inclination what's going on.[/


There are not 12 non-feeder offers. It just says 12 off the spanish waitlist at DCI. Those kids are from feeders because you can see that there were more spanish kids at Stokes Brookland than spots.

Whatever leftover spanish seats from any feeder schools are filled by feeder schools who need more spots. That is how it works. So all feeder kids got spots. If any leftover, then sibling is next.

There is no chance for non-feeder families in the spanish track moving forward where there will be more feeder kids in the pipeline.

But isn't it double-counting to make the same 12 waitlisted kids offers on their own school's waitlist and also on the non-feeder waitlist?

Why do you think it’s a non-feeder waitlist? It does not say that. I’m assuming it’s the general waitlist overall and then it’s broken down to more details about specific feeder waitlist.

Because each feeder has its own waitlist in the drop-down menu. The non-feeder waitlist is the one with no feeder school listed.

It doesn’t mean that it’s a non-feeder waitlist. What happens is that the school does the feeder numbers first and fill the spots first with designated feeder school seats. If there are more kids then spots they are waitlisted and go to the top of the general waitlist which PP above assumes incorrectly is for non-feeder kids.

Once all above is done with each school, they know how many feeder spots then are unfilled. Then they go to the general waitlist which has feeder kids at the top who did not get their feeder school spot. That is what they mean when they say feeder kids can get any feeder school spots and not just from their own school.

But why does it show waitlist offers being made on the feeder school waitlists? Are offers made to those kids being counted twice?

Yes counted on feeder school and counted on general waitlist.

The whole point the feeder school waitlist was created was specifically for families at feeder schools so they can see what trend is as feeder schools expand and there might not be enough seats offered in the initial lottery matched. As you can see, even feeder kids are waitlisted, but as some schools don’t fill all their seats, then these waitlisted kids got all those seats till no feeder kid was waitlisted at all now.

Reality is just accept that if you are not at a feeder school, you will not get a spanish seat at DCI. Makes life easier to plan and move on to other options instead of obsessing about waitlist.

So if someone on a feeder school waitlist gets an offer and it shows up on their feeder school table in the data, are they being offered a seat allocated to their feeder that someone else declined? Or are they being offered a seat allocated to another feeder?

You can’t tell from the waitlist data.

But it’s likely that if they are waitlisted then they are taking a seat from another feeder school. We know many families at our charter and 2 families going to Latin, none to Basis, and everyone else to DCI,

DCI has a very high feeder percentages buy in, and it will continue to rise as the school continues to improve. The families who might go to Latin and/or Basis are not playing the lottery for 6th grade. They have already left the feeder. Of course you might get a feeder family who might be moving or re-locating who will decline the spot but it won’t be anything significant in numbers.

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Two Rivers (both 4th and Young) will have exhausted their WL in all grades by the time school starts. That is an astounding fall from grace for a once formerly high demand school. It saddens me.