SOL in Algebra I

Anonymous
Blame the county. They have mandated use of performance matters assessments (that someone in the county writes) at a lot of schools. Teachers don't get a say.

With the summative/formative break down and mandated assessments, gradebooks are fairly micromanaged.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:My 8th grader is in honors Algebra and has a C-. She got pass advanced on the SOL.

The teacher gives very short tests, and tests are almost the entire grade. SO all the classwork, homework, quizzes makes very little difference. If a test has five questions, and you miss one, that's an 80%. There is no handwritten calculations turned in like in the olden times, so the kids don't get partial credit for getting some of the steps correct. Its just a right or wrong multiple choice. Frankly, obviously, I don't think its great for the kids.


This is how it is for my DD with the D. Homework and classwork counts for almost nothing. Tests are online and graded entirely answer only so any little mistake results in full loss of credit.

When my current 11th grader took Algebra in middle school, tests were all on paper and work had to be shown. Work was graded and feedback was given. Partial credit was also given. Now it’s all full credit or zero and computer graded. Is it like this at every school now?



Really? My DDs math teacher is really good, so I guess it depends on that. She has an A atm, but her teacher has given a lot of extra credit on tests and the final exam. Tests are on paper, and there is partial credit and bonuses on the test and outside the test (making a math vid related to taylor swift or something) Work is graded + feedback is given too, so it’s definitely not like your experience at every school… it really depends on the teachers way of teaching. I think it may be the difference of aap vs non? My child goes to a non. Then again, I could be incorrect.
Anonymous
Several of our 7th graders got Pass Advanced, but no 600s. One 8th grader got a 600.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:My 8th grader is in honors Algebra and has a C-. She got pass advanced on the SOL.

The teacher gives very short tests, and tests are almost the entire grade. SO all the classwork, homework, quizzes makes very little difference. If a test has five questions, and you miss one, that's an 80%. There is no handwritten calculations turned in like in the olden times, so the kids don't get partial credit for getting some of the steps correct. Its just a right or wrong multiple choice. Frankly, obviously, I don't think its great for the kids.


This is how it is for my DD with the D. Homework and classwork counts for almost nothing. Tests are online and graded entirely answer only so any little mistake results in full loss of credit.

When my current 11th grader took Algebra in middle school, tests were all on paper and work had to be shown. Work was graded and feedback was given. Partial credit was also given. Now it’s all full credit or zero and computer graded. Is it like this at every school now?


in china, either you know it or you don't. no partial credit. the main difference, china teachers grade everything--no computer score give your baby grade.


No one cares about what happens in third world countries.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:My 8th grader is in honors Algebra and has a C-. She got pass advanced on the SOL.

The teacher gives very short tests, and tests are almost the entire grade. SO all the classwork, homework, quizzes makes very little difference. If a test has five questions, and you miss one, that's an 80%. There is no handwritten calculations turned in like in the olden times, so the kids don't get partial credit for getting some of the steps correct. Its just a right or wrong multiple choice. Frankly, obviously, I don't think its great for the kids.


This is how it is for my DD with the D. Homework and classwork counts for almost nothing. Tests are online and graded entirely answer only so any little mistake results in full loss of credit.

When my current 11th grader took Algebra in middle school, tests were all on paper and work had to be shown. Work was graded and feedback was given. Partial credit was also given. Now it’s all full credit or zero and computer graded. Is it like this at every school now?


Are the teachers for 7th grade Algebra 1 H different than the teachers for the 8th grade Algebra 1 H? Because I don’t hear a lot about 7th grades getting C’s and D’s. He has a lot of homework, that he can complete in school, and 70% for tests. I have not asked him how many questions he has on tests. But they are all taking the same tests because that has been mandated.
Anonymous
DC 7th grader always spends hours on algebra1 homework, we were trying to decide if he need AOPS ( but we really didn’t want to add more workload on him) or just slow ( he’s slow on everything include daily routine), but then he got 600 in math SOL this year ( also had 600 in 5th and 6th plus 99% Iowa). They just started algebra2 after SOL and DC just continue the hours of homework routine again.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:DC 7th grader always spends hours on algebra1 homework, we were trying to decide if he need AOPS ( but we really didn’t want to add more workload on him) or just slow ( he’s slow on everything include daily routine), but then he got 600 in math SOL this year ( also had 600 in 5th and 6th plus 99% Iowa). They just started algebra2 after SOL and DC just continue the hours of homework routine again.


AoPS is not a good solution for a kid that needs help in math. AoPS is for kids who catch concepts quickly and are ready for more depth. RSM is a better fit for a kid who is ahead in math but is struggling. Or Mathnasium, Sylvan, or Kumon.

What his grade in Algebra 1?
Anonymous
7th grade Alg 1 Honors are very strong students. Then you have the Desmos graphing calculator which will give you all the answers you need without having to the know the math. There will be a decent amount of pass advanced and 600s.

My school literally have D and F algebra students who can pass because teachers are incentivized to teach Desmos calculator tricks.

It's crazy what you can do in Desmos. You don't need to understand Algebra at all. It would have been considered cheating when I was a student,
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:DC 7th grader always spends hours on algebra1 homework, we were trying to decide if he need AOPS ( but we really didn’t want to add more workload on him) or just slow ( he’s slow on everything include daily routine), but then he got 600 in math SOL this year ( also had 600 in 5th and 6th plus 99% Iowa). They just started algebra2 after SOL and DC just continue the hours of homework routine again.


AoPS is not a good solution for a kid that needs help in math. AoPS is for kids who catch concepts quickly and are ready for more depth. RSM is a better fit for a kid who is ahead in math but is struggling. Or Mathnasium, Sylvan, or Kumon.

What his grade in Algebra 1?


Thanks and we will check those class you suggested. DC gets A, like 99%-100 in sis grade book, so it gets us confused whether we should, or what to do to support.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:DC 7th grader always spends hours on algebra1 homework, we were trying to decide if he need AOPS ( but we really didn’t want to add more workload on him) or just slow ( he’s slow on everything include daily routine), but then he got 600 in math SOL this year ( also had 600 in 5th and 6th plus 99% Iowa). They just started algebra2 after SOL and DC just continue the hours of homework routine again.


AoPS is not a good solution for a kid that needs help in math. AoPS is for kids who catch concepts quickly and are ready for more depth. RSM is a better fit for a kid who is ahead in math but is struggling. Or Mathnasium, Sylvan, or Kumon.

What his grade in Algebra 1?


Thanks and we will check those class you suggested. DC gets A, like 99%-100 in sis grade book, so it gets us confused whether we should, or what to do to support.


That sounds like a kid who understands the material but has slow processing or executive functioning. You might want to work with a EF coach to see what you can do to help build systems or spaces that make it easier for him to focus on work. But if homework is taking hours now you might have an issue when he gets to HS. It sounds like he is understanding the material fine.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:My 8th grader is in honors Algebra and has a C-. She got pass advanced on the SOL.

The teacher gives very short tests, and tests are almost the entire grade. SO all the classwork, homework, quizzes makes very little difference. If a test has five questions, and you miss one, that's an 80%. There is no handwritten calculations turned in like in the olden times, so the kids don't get partial credit for getting some of the steps correct. Its just a right or wrong multiple choice. Frankly, obviously, I don't think its great for the kids.


This is how it is for my DD with the D. Homework and classwork counts for almost nothing. Tests are online and graded entirely answer only so any little mistake results in full loss of credit.

When my current 11th grader took Algebra in middle school, tests were all on paper and work had to be shown. Work was graded and feedback was given. Partial credit was also given. Now it’s all full credit or zero and computer graded. Is it like this at every school now?


in china, either you know it or you don't. no partial credit. the main difference, china teachers grade everything--no computer score give your baby grade.


No one cares about what happens in third world countries.


yes you know when truth is told. china first world country. fcps third world county.
Anonymous
What is EF coach?



Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:DC 7th grader always spends hours on algebra1 homework, we were trying to decide if he need AOPS ( but we really didn’t want to add more workload on him) or just slow ( he’s slow on everything include daily routine), but then he got 600 in math SOL this year ( also had 600 in 5th and 6th plus 99% Iowa). They just started algebra2 after SOL and DC just continue the hours of homework routine again.


AoPS is not a good solution for a kid that needs help in math. AoPS is for kids who catch concepts quickly and are ready for more depth. RSM is a better fit for a kid who is ahead in math but is struggling. Or Mathnasium, Sylvan, or Kumon.

What his grade in Algebra 1?


Thanks and we will check those class you suggested. DC gets A, like 99%-100 in sis grade book, so it gets us confused whether we should, or what to do to support.


That sounds like a kid who understands the material but has slow processing or executive functioning. You might want to work with a EF coach to see what you can do to help build systems or spaces that make it easier for him to focus on work. But if homework is taking hours now you might have an issue when he gets to HS. It sounds like he is understanding the material fine.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:What is EF coach?



Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:DC 7th grader always spends hours on algebra1 homework, we were trying to decide if he need AOPS ( but we really didn’t want to add more workload on him) or just slow ( he’s slow on everything include daily routine), but then he got 600 in math SOL this year ( also had 600 in 5th and 6th plus 99% Iowa). They just started algebra2 after SOL and DC just continue the hours of homework routine again.


AoPS is not a good solution for a kid that needs help in math. AoPS is for kids who catch concepts quickly and are ready for more depth. RSM is a better fit for a kid who is ahead in math but is struggling. Or Mathnasium, Sylvan, or Kumon.

What his grade in Algebra 1?


Thanks and we will check those class you suggested. DC gets A, like 99%-100 in sis grade book, so it gets us confused whether we should, or what to do to support.


That sounds like a kid who understands the material but has slow processing or executive functioning. You might want to work with a EF coach to see what you can do to help build systems or spaces that make it easier for him to focus on work. But if homework is taking hours now you might have an issue when he gets to HS. It sounds like he is understanding the material fine.


Executive functioning.
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