NY Times about US students choosing to study abroad

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Understandable, better value for the educational dollar. Also no mystery in what it takes to get in. Have the grades and scores and you have good shot at getting in. No hidden agendas or social engineering, at least for now.

Not if you want to study science or do research, it's not a better value.

You aer wrong…..my son picked. Imperial over Cornell…Mech Engineering….plenty of research opportunities in one of the world’s top programs. Oh and less than half of the price….

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I think kids choosing to study abroad is more about the value proposition and lifestyle choice vs ideology. Many more kids talk about having fun as a major part of decision criteria.

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Known a few kids from our full-pay town who opted for Uk/Irish universities and agree not part of the “ in crowd”. Nice kids from liberal families (prior to Trumps victory in 24) who seemed to be yearning for escape and a fresh start.

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Anonymous wrote:Known a few kids from our full-pay town who opted for Uk/Irish universities and agree not part of the “ in crowd”. Nice kids from liberal families (prior to Trumps victory in 24) who seemed to be yearning for escape and a fresh start.

The in crowd….wow…love the demeaning comments here….DS was the captain of the football and soccer teams and class president……going to a school in the UK had nothing to do with him being or not being in the in crowd or for any political reason…..it was a better fit for what he wanted. You people are ridiculous….

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It's a bit perplexing to see a parent refer to the protests as It's important to have a nuanced perspective on these matters. While we can all agree that the way protests are being conducted is a topic open for debate, it's crucial to understand that supporting a pro-Palestine state does mean supporting Hamas. Similarly, being critical of the Israeli government does not equate to antisemitism.

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*protests as "Pro Hamas' ^^

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Sorry for the typos. My keypad is acting a bit crazy.
** pro-Palestine state does NOT mean supporting Hamas. Similarly, being critical of the Israeli government does not equate to antisemitism.

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The in crowd is hilarious.

The kids we know from nyc are pretty cool, tbh. Maybe a little apolitical (dont want to deal w Trump to protesting Trump). Dont care about football. Also full pay.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Understandable, better value for the educational dollar. Also no mystery in what it takes to get in. Have the grades and scores and you have good shot at getting in. No hidden agendas or social engineering, at least for now.

“Social engineering “? Yes, where AO teams, many of whom have never held a job outside of academia, select set numbers or URMs to shape a class in an image that they believe is how America should look. Like educating citizens of other countries? Qualified international students should be admitted. That kind of “social engineering “? See previous answers. Let’s see what happens after a few years of larger numbers of US citizens taking advantage of non-US schools. Unlikely, most US students are not sufficiently prepared for the rigor of non-US universities. Other countries might get tired of supporting that “better value” part. My experience is with Scottish universities where tuition for international students was 17 times that of a Scottish national and over 3 times that of other UK residents. So international students already pay a premium.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Understandable, better value for the educational dollar. Also no mystery in what it takes to get in. Have the grades and scores and you have good shot at getting in. No hidden agendas or social engineering, at least for now.

“Social engineering “? Like educating citizens of other countries? That kind of “social engineering “? Let’s see what happens after a few years of larger numbers of US citizens taking advantage of non-US schools. Other countries might get tired of supporting that “better value” part.

Universities in Europe aren't country clubs. They aren't "supporting" the better value, they are running better universities.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Known a few kids from our full-pay town who opted for Uk/Irish universities and agree not part of the “ in crowd”. Nice kids from liberal families (prior to Trumps victory in 24) who seemed to be yearning for escape and a fresh start.

The in crowd….wow…love the demeaning comments here….DS was the captain of the football and soccer teams and class president……going to a school in the UK had nothing to do with him being or not being in the in crowd or for any political reason…..it was a better fit for what he wanted. You people are ridiculous….

I don't think my kid is in the "in" crowd but that has nothing to do with their decision to go overseas

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For my kid, it was to avoid the holistic BS.
Almost all schools abroad are transparent about the requirements.
My kid scored very high on SAT and 5s on all AP exams but doesn't care much for grade grubbing and false extracurriculars. They didn't want to write an essay about their personality but about the course they are interested in pursuing and why.
The plus for us is that there is one less year of tuition.

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Anonymous wrote:For my kid, it was to avoid the holistic BS.
Almost all schools abroad are transparent about the requirements.
My kid scored very high on SAT and 5s on all AP exams but doesn't care much for grade grubbing and false extracurriculars. They didn't want to write an essay about their personality but about the course they are interested in pursuing and why.
The plus for us is that there is one less year of tuition.

Poster above - i have had friends who work at the NYT. It is definitely a biased paper and spins stories.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Understandable, better value for the educational dollar. Also no mystery in what it takes to get in. Have the grades and scores and you have good shot at getting in. No hidden agendas or social engineering, at least for now.

“Social engineering “? Like educating citizens of other countries? That kind of “social engineering “? Let’s see what happens after a few years of larger numbers of US citizens taking advantage of non-US schools. Other countries might get tired of supporting that “better value” part.

Social engineering means letting someone who couldn't crack 1000 on the SAT into Berkeley.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Understandable, better value for the educational dollar. Also no mystery in what it takes to get in. Have the grades and scores and you have good shot at getting in. No hidden agendas or social engineering, at least for now.

“Social engineering “? Like educating citizens of other countries? That kind of “social engineering “? Let’s see what happens after a few years of larger numbers of US citizens taking advantage of non-US schools. Other countries might get tired of supporting that “better value” part.

Universities in Europe aren't country clubs. They aren't "supporting" the better value, they are running better universities.

Please detail your experience with European universities.