Starting Oyster-Adams in 5th or 6th?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I don’t know that DCI is an option for OP. I think they would have mentioned it.

Then if I was OP, I would move to the burbs where schools are better overall with curriculum, facilities, EC, and sports..

2nd best is move IB Deal to JR if she wants to stay in the city.

She doesn’t have a good path in regards to languages.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don’t know that DCI is an option for OP. I think they would have mentioned it.

Then if I was OP, I would move to the burbs where schools are better overall with curriculum, facilities, EC, and sports..

2nd best is move IB Deal to JR if she wants to stay in the city.

She doesn’t have a good path in regards to languages.

Moving in-bounds for Oyster would also be moving in-bounds for JR, right?

[Anonymous]

Yes, that's right. OA feeds to JR.

[Anonymous]

Yes it does but the point is if OP is willing to give up a much better middle school experience with a higher performing peer group just for 3 more years of a language which her kid will then not continue.

JR does not offer any real advance language offerings for fluency.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Yes it does but the point is if OP is willing to give up a much better middle school experience with a higher performing peer group just for 3 more years of a language which her kid will then not continue.

JR does not offer any real advance language offerings for fluency.

This is really quite subjective. There's an argument to be made that a small middle school, even if it has less extracurricular options, is a better middle school experience for some kids. Not sure what you are referring to with a "higher performing peer group."

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Yes it does but the point is if OP is willing to give up a much better middle school experience with a higher performing peer group just for 3 more years of a language which her kid will then not continue.

JR does not offer any real advance language offerings for fluency.

This is really quite subjective. There's an argument to be made that a small middle school, even if it has less extracurricular options, is a better middle school experience for some kids. Not sure what you are referring to with a "higher performing peer group."

The data is right there. Kids who are above grade level ELA: Adams 25%, Deal 41%. Math: Adams 10%, Deal 19%

Deal also offers more course programming and more advance programming in addition to EC’s and sports.

If you want small that it’s basically an extension of elementary, then sure go for Adams.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Yes it does but the point is if OP is willing to give up a much better middle school experience with a higher performing peer group just for 3 more years of a language which her kid will then not continue.

JR does not offer any real advance language offerings for fluency.

This is really quite subjective. There's an argument to be made that a small middle school, even if it has less extracurricular options, is a better middle school experience for some kids. Not sure what you are referring to with a "higher performing peer group."

The data is right there. Kids who are above grade level ELA: Adams 25%, Deal 41%. Math: Adams 10%, Deal 19%

Deal also offers more course programming and more advance programming in addition to EC’s and sports.

If you want small that it’s basically an extension of elementary, then sure go for Adams.

I suppose if your definition of a "peer group" is "the entire school" that is true, but if you exam the peer group categories DC provides data for, that doesn't seem to be the case. For example, if you compare Hispanic/Latino category, the schools seem about equal in scores. In many cases it's a bit hard to tell because Adams is small enough that sample size can be an issue, but if you look across multiple years, they seem about equal by actual published peer groups.

[Anonymous]

op are you at Chisholm

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:DCI is better pathway long term

+1. Better programming with IB, much more curriculum offerings and language offerings, lots EC and sports. Then there is the opportunity to continue all this in high school and get the IB diploma.

My kid LOVED sports at OA and played something every season, including when it overlapped AAU basketball because he had so much fun playing with his friends. I coached when my kid was there, and I thought it was a great environment. FWIW, he and most of his friends went on to play their main sport in HS, including at JR where sports are pretty competitive.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Yes it does but the point is if OP is willing to give up a much better middle school experience with a higher performing peer group just for 3 more years of a language which her kid will then not continue.

JR does not offer any real advance language offerings for fluency.

This is really quite subjective. There's an argument to be made that a small middle school, even if it has less extracurricular options, is a better middle school experience for some kids. Not sure what you are referring to with a "higher performing peer group."

The data is right there. Kids who are above grade level ELA: Adams 25%, Deal 41%. Math: Adams 10%, Deal 19%

Deal also offers more course programming and more advance programming in addition to EC’s and sports.

If you want small that it’s basically an extension of elementary, then sure go for Adams.

I suppose if your definition of a "peer group" is "the entire school" that is true, but if you exam the peer group categories DC provides data for, that doesn't seem to be the case. For example, if you compare Hispanic/Latino category, the schools seem about equal in scores. In many cases it's a bit hard to tell because Adams is small enough that sample size can be an issue, but if you look across multiple years, they seem about equal by actual published peer groups.

Categories doesn’t matter. It’s not like the school is dividing kids by categories into different classrooms. BTW, even looking at Hispanics from most recent data, Deal is higher and it’s not close.

What matters is percentages and absolute numbers so that you have a good cohort of high performing kids. Sample size doesn’t matter if you are looking at pure percentages and Deal is higher with percentages.

Now in terms of absolute numbers, yes sample size matters and Adams doesn’t have a lot of high performing kids because not only is their percentages lower, but also because it’s too small.

Let’s just look at math for instance. Deal has a whooping 281 kids above grade level, Adams it’s just 21. Those numbers are spread over 3 grades so if you assume similar numbers per grade then Deal it’s 94 kids a grade, Adams 7.

Deal has enough kids for 3-4 advance math classes. Adams not even anywhere close to enough for 1.

And because of size and cohort, that is why Deal offers more in terms of curriculum offerings for in addition to having a significantly higher performing peer group.

[Anonymous]

Oyster-Adams parent here. The students will welcome your child next year if you decide to enroll. Kids are very warm to each other. We have wonderful teachers with deep expertise, an energized new principal, and a completely renovated building for our 4-8th graders scheduled to be opened by the start of the 2025-2026 school year. The smaller size (approx 90 per grade) ensures your kids are well known to teachers and staff. The size means your kids can make the school sports teams -- even if sometimes we get crushed by our rivals with a deeper bench We don't have an orchestra like Deal, but we do have music class and a middle school musical. We have plenty of activities like school dances, math team, model UN, debate, etc. The students feed into Jackson-Reed at the conclusion of 8th grade. Our kids are very happy at Oyster-Adams!