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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Yes it does but the point is if OP is willing to give up a much better middle school experience with a higher performing peer group just for 3 more years of a language which her kid will then not continue. JR does not offer any real advance language offerings for fluency. [/quote] This is really quite subjective. There's an argument to be made that a small middle school, even if it has less extracurricular options, is a better middle school experience for some kids. Not sure what you are referring to with a "higher performing peer group." [/quote] The data is right there. Kids who are above grade level ELA: Adams 25%, Deal 41%. Math: Adams 10%, Deal 19% Deal also offers more course programming and more advance programming in addition to EC’s and sports. If you want small that it’s basically an extension of elementary, then sure go for Adams. [/quote] I suppose if your definition of a "peer group" is "the entire school" that is true, but if you exam the peer group categories DC provides data for, that doesn't seem to be the case. For example, if you compare Hispanic/Latino category, the schools seem about equal in scores. In many cases it's a bit hard to tell because Adams is small enough that sample size can be an issue, but if you look across multiple years, they seem about equal by actual published peer groups.[/quote] Categories doesn’t matter. It’s not like the school is dividing kids by categories into different classrooms. BTW, even looking at Hispanics from most recent data, Deal is higher and it’s not close. What matters is percentages and absolute numbers so that you have a good cohort of high performing kids. Sample size doesn’t matter if you are looking at pure percentages and Deal is higher with percentages. Now in terms of absolute numbers, yes sample size matters and Adams doesn’t have a lot of high performing kids because not only is their percentages lower, but also because it’s too small. Let’s just look at math for instance. Deal has a whooping 281 kids above grade level, Adams it’s just 21. Those numbers are spread over 3 grades so if you assume similar numbers per grade then Deal it’s 94 kids a grade, Adams 7. Deal has enough kids for 3-4 advance math classes. Adams not even anywhere close to enough for 1. And because of size and cohort, that is why Deal offers more in terms of curriculum offerings for in addition to having a significantly higher performing peer group. [/quote]
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