Are VT / UVA students allowed to take CC courses?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:UVA does not allow it for current UVA students to take courses at another college during the summer.

Possibly true in A&S, but as a SEAS student I definitely took Econ one summer at a different college and transferred it (obviously it was taken as an elective - not for an Econ degree).

When was this?

[Anonymous]

You can at VT. I know some kids take math classes at CC to avoid taking them at the math emporium (that's the mostly online math classes).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Usually yes. The school publishes a doc that lets you know what will and wont transfer. Check the registrar's office about course transfer if you want someone to officially validate it.

You’re confusing taking classes before you enroll and after you enroll. Different rules. It’s not often allowed after you enroll, though sometimes it’s approved. Never take a summer course before you know!

No confusion - a lot State School students do Nova in the summer. For UVA you just need to fill this form and get it approved: https://college.as.virginia.edu/transfer-credit-elective-form-and-instructions

Since the agreement with NOVA is already in place this is mainly ceremonial. The State of Virginia will not undermine the CC program.

[Anonymous]

VT allows it...just have to apply to NOVACC and admission is instantaneous
work w/ advisor though before enrolling/paying for the class to ensure the credit transfers.

[Anonymous]

My kids went to similarly ranked schools. They each had enough AP credits to cover most of their freshman year classes, so each took mostly sophomore year classes inthe freshman year of college. I am not sure what classes would be left to take from a CC after freshman year.

What kind of classes are you curious about?

[Anonymous]

I bet it’s ok to use as a prerequisite but not always to actually get credit.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:You can at VT. I know some kids take math classes at CC to avoid taking them at the math emporium (that's the mostly online math classes).

The math emporium closed down several years ago. You may want to let the kids you know know.

VT is cracking down on students trying to avoid hard classes by taking them through VCCS.
See, for instance, Transfer Equivalency Credit Changes in CS.

[Anonymous]

Taking classes at CC after one is enrolled in a 4yr college is seen as grade grubing by law and med and grad schools. Do not do it unless there are extenuating circumstances. Even a “lesser” 4yr institution (if allowed by the home one) often reflects negatively on grad/prof admissions

[Anonymous]

Why are VT and UVA being coupled?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Taking classes at CC after one is enrolled in a 4yr college is seen as grade grubing by law and med and grad schools. Do not do it unless there are extenuating circumstances. Even a “lesser” 4yr institution (if allowed by the home one) often reflects negatively on grad/prof admissions

Don't transfer credits from CC typically carry no GPA contribution, and mainly serve as prerequisites for major relevant courses that can only be taken at VT?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Taking classes at CC after one is enrolled in a 4yr college is seen as grade grubing by law and med and grad schools. Do not do it unless there are extenuating circumstances. Even a “lesser” 4yr institution (if allowed by the home one) often reflects negatively on grad/prof admissions

Don't transfer credits from CC typically carry no GPA contribution, and mainly serve as prerequisites for major relevant courses that can only be taken at VT?

That's the idea, in theory at least. In practice, unprepared students come to us, find that they can't succeed in the course at VT, then look for substitutes at CC (and sometimes other lower ranked state schools like GMU or JMU), take those courses - often virtually - and then hope to succeed in the next course. Needless to say, it's a recipe for disaster, particularly if a student substituted the 1000 and 2000 level courses and then hopes to succeed at the 3000 level. Hence the effort to close any loopholes for 2000 courses. (1000 courses will likely stay transferable, though for instance we recommend that students take the course, not transfer it, at least when it comes to CC-only courses. AP is a slightly different beast.)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Taking classes at CC after one is enrolled in a 4yr college is seen as grade grubing by law and med and grad schools. Do not do it unless there are extenuating circumstances. Even a “lesser” 4yr institution (if allowed by the home one) often reflects negatively on grad/prof admissions

Don't transfer credits from CC typically carry no GPA contribution, and mainly serve as prerequisites for major relevant courses that can only be taken at VT?

That's the idea, in theory at least. In practice, unprepared students come to us, find that they can't succeed in the course at VT, then look for substitutes at CC (and sometimes other lower ranked state schools like GMU or JMU), take those courses - often virtually - and then hope to succeed in the next course. Needless to say, it's a recipe for disaster, particularly if a student substituted the 1000 and 2000 level courses and then hopes to succeed at the 3000 level. Hence the effort to close any loopholes for 2000 courses. (1000 courses will likely stay transferable, though for instance we recommend that students take the course, not transfer it, at least when it comes to CC-only courses. AP is a slightly different beast.)

All of you see CC as a loop hole; what if you are finishing an English or Humanities requirement?

And what's this dig against GMU and JMU? Maybe it's not the school but the kid? Some kids have no interest or care to invest the time it takes to do STEM classes; even if these kids did all their course work at VT that still wouldn't make a difference.

[Anonymous]

DC has two friends at VT who are taking summer classes at NoVA. One wants to avoid taking 18 credits during the school year (Pamplin), and the other is an athlete taking classes to fit their team schedule.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I bet it’s ok to use as a prerequisite but not always to actually get credit.

I got credit at UVA SEAS for Econ as a summer class taken elsewhere. Grade for Econ did not factor into GPA, but I absolutely got credit for it. Mind, this was as an elective, and was not for an Econ degree.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I bet it’s ok to use as a prerequisite but not always to actually get credit.

I got credit at UVA SEAS for Econ as a summer class taken elsewhere. Grade for Econ did not factor into GPA, but I absolutely got credit for it. Mind, this was as an elective, and was not for an Econ degree.

How long ago was this? Policies may have changed.