ODP

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If you decide to decipher through any of the original threads on this topic, you will learn that ODP was once the method of identifying high level talent. It is no longer that.

We did the Development ODP for 2014 and younger this year with VA and my son learned things he did not learn in club from a different coaching perspective. It was a low commitment level as the practices were in Springfield but it was a good experience for my child.

We will probably try out for the official team this upcoming year with the goal to make the state team, regional and national teams in the next few years. We would like to use it for networking, guesting opportunities, etc and we know that a bulk of the MLS Next Tier 1 community will not be there after about two years. Please don't post to IG you made nationals because that is where you will get clowned by the tier 1 MLS Next/ECNL crowd.

The biggest mistake American players make it playing is playing in the same controlled environments all of the time. I will see what the numbers look like officially but there have not been any fees so far in two years of club that have scared me away and I think I am an average DCUMer.

I know some ODP national pool players in the older 2009-2011 age groups and they are ECNL-RL and MLS Next 2 level players. Most of the national team players go D2 and D3. As long as you understand this and okay with the cost, it is a great supplemental program to give your child more learning versus hanging with the cone-drill crew.

Keep telling yourself that. There are no National Level ODP players from the DMV for those age groups. Those small, very select rosters, are not filled with ECNL-RL players. That is a wishful comment, making the claim that low level players can make the ODP national team.... lol

There have been several from Maryland in the last few years, not sure about Virginia. Not sure whether it has actually gotten the kids anywhere or any real exposure, but there have been some.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If your kid makes region or higher level team it’s actually quite good from an experience and development perspective . They get coached almost exclusively by college coaches at D1 schools who normally they would not be able to interact with.

They also have pro scouts showing up and several identified from those events got opportunities and got signed on the heels of the regional sessions. The higher up you qualify the better it gets.

The thing is you have to suffer through the district stuff to get there. But if you have a good player who can make it that far there is a platform for them. The girls at the highest level (region +) all seem to be ECNL (or equivalent)

Loved the way you sneaked the ECNL badge in there.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If you decide to decipher through any of the original threads on this topic, you will learn that ODP was once the method of identifying high level talent. It is no longer that.

We did the Development ODP for 2014 and younger this year with VA and my son learned things he did not learn in club from a different coaching perspective. It was a low commitment level as the practices were in Springfield but it was a good experience for my child.

We will probably try out for the official team this upcoming year with the goal to make the state team, regional and national teams in the next few years. We would like to use it for networking, guesting opportunities, etc and we know that a bulk of the MLS Next Tier 1 community will not be there after about two years. Please don't post to IG you made nationals because that is where you will get clowned by the tier 1 MLS Next/ECNL crowd.

The biggest mistake American players make it playing is playing in the same controlled environments all of the time. I will see what the numbers look like officially but there have not been any fees so far in two years of club that have scared me away and I think I am an average DCUMer.

I know some ODP national pool players in the older 2009-2011 age groups and they are ECNL-RL and MLS Next 2 level players. Most of the national team players go D2 and D3. As long as you understand this and okay with the cost, it is a great supplemental program to give your child more learning versus hanging with the cone-drill crew.

Keep telling yourself that. There are no National Level ODP players from the DMV for those age groups. Those small, very select rosters, are not filled with ECNL-RL players. That is a wishful comment, making the claim that low level players can make the ODP national team.... lol

These dem facts boy! IG can verify if you care enough to do some surface level searching. There are two Maryland ODP boys on ODP national team, were recently called up to USYNT camp for their respective ages as well, and both have only ever played for a small club that plays at EDP NL II

[Anonymous]

If you have the time and the money, and your DC has the passion for more soccer, it’s a good program. Don’t let all these naysayers discourage you.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If you decide to decipher through any of the original threads on this topic, you will learn that ODP was once the method of identifying high level talent. It is no longer that.

We did the Development ODP for 2014 and younger this year with VA and my son learned things he did not learn in club from a different coaching perspective. It was a low commitment level as the practices were in Springfield but it was a good experience for my child.

We will probably try out for the official team this upcoming year with the goal to make the state team, regional and national teams in the next few years. We would like to use it for networking, guesting opportunities, etc and we know that a bulk of the MLS Next Tier 1 community will not be there after about two years. Please don't post to IG you made nationals because that is where you will get clowned by the tier 1 MLS Next/ECNL crowd.

The biggest mistake American players make it playing is playing in the same controlled environments all of the time. I will see what the numbers look like officially but there have not been any fees so far in two years of club that have scared me away and I think I am an average DCUMer.

I know some ODP national pool players in the older 2009-2011 age groups and they are ECNL-RL and MLS Next 2 level players. Most of the national team players go D2 and D3. As long as you understand this and okay with the cost, it is a great supplemental program to give your child more learning versus hanging with the cone-drill crew.

Keep telling yourself that. There are no National Level ODP players from the DMV for those age groups. Those small, very select rosters, are not filled with ECNL-RL players. That is a wishful comment, making the claim that low level players can make the ODP national team.... lol

These dem facts boy! IG can verify if you care enough to do some surface level searching. There are two Maryland ODP boys on ODP national team, were recently called up to USYNT camp for their respective ages as well, and both have only ever played for a small club that plays at EDP NL II

This is the PP, thank you for point them out. Thats awesome. But for the girls side... there are ZERO players from VA,DC or MD. But glad two did make it!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If you decide to decipher through any of the original threads on this topic, you will learn that ODP was once the method of identifying high level talent. It is no longer that.

We did the Development ODP for 2014 and younger this year with VA and my son learned things he did not learn in club from a different coaching perspective. It was a low commitment level as the practices were in Springfield but it was a good experience for my child.

We will probably try out for the official team this upcoming year with the goal to make the state team, regional and national teams in the next few years. We would like to use it for networking, guesting opportunities, etc and we know that a bulk of the MLS Next Tier 1 community will not be there after about two years. Please don't post to IG you made nationals because that is where you will get clowned by the tier 1 MLS Next/ECNL crowd.

The biggest mistake American players make it playing is playing in the same controlled environments all of the time. I will see what the numbers look like officially but there have not been any fees so far in two years of club that have scared me away and I think I am an average DCUMer.

I know some ODP national pool players in the older 2009-2011 age groups and they are ECNL-RL and MLS Next 2 level players. Most of the national team players go D2 and D3. As long as you understand this and okay with the cost, it is a great supplemental program to give your child more learning versus hanging with the cone-drill crew.

Keep telling yourself that. There are no National Level ODP players from the DMV for those age groups. Those small, very select rosters, are not filled with ECNL-RL players. That is a wishful comment, making the claim that low level players can make the ODP national team.... lol

So this is the message to the parents in the local area?

Don’t encourage players to get into the highest levels of ODP. Discourage everyone instead.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If you decide to decipher through any of the original threads on this topic, you will learn that ODP was once the method of identifying high level talent. It is no longer that.

We did the Development ODP for 2014 and younger this year with VA and my son learned things he did not learn in club from a different coaching perspective. It was a low commitment level as the practices were in Springfield but it was a good experience for my child.

We will probably try out for the official team this upcoming year with the goal to make the state team, regional and national teams in the next few years. We would like to use it for networking, guesting opportunities, etc and we know that a bulk of the MLS Next Tier 1 community will not be there after about two years. Please don't post to IG you made nationals because that is where you will get clowned by the tier 1 MLS Next/ECNL crowd.

The biggest mistake American players make it playing is playing in the same controlled environments all of the time. I will see what the numbers look like officially but there have not been any fees so far in two years of club that have scared me away and I think I am an average DCUMer.

I know some ODP national pool players in the older 2009-2011 age groups and they are ECNL-RL and MLS Next 2 level players. Most of the national team players go D2 and D3. As long as you understand this and okay with the cost, it is a great supplemental program to give your child more learning versus hanging with the cone-drill crew.

Keep telling yourself that. There are no National Level ODP players from the DMV for those age groups. Those small, very select rosters, are not filled with ECNL-RL players. That is a wishful comment, making the claim that low level players can make the ODP national team.... lol

So this is the message to the parents in the local area?

Don’t encourage players to get into the highest levels of ODP. Discourage everyone instead.

I am going to try to give the benefit of the doubt in that you have both MD and VA and both girls and boys.

Personally, I follow the MD boys information and am really not up to breast with the other three including VA boys. That is only 25% of our DMV marketplace.

The issue is when these parents jump off the top rope like Ricky, The Dragon, Steamboat with the wrong facts and swear they know everything.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If you decide to decipher through any of the original threads on this topic, you will learn that ODP was once the method of identifying high level talent. It is no longer that.

We did the Development ODP for 2014 and younger this year with VA and my son learned things he did not learn in club from a different coaching perspective. It was a low commitment level as the practices were in Springfield but it was a good experience for my child.

We will probably try out for the official team this upcoming year with the goal to make the state team, regional and national teams in the next few years. We would like to use it for networking, guesting opportunities, etc and we know that a bulk of the MLS Next Tier 1 community will not be there after about two years. Please don't post to IG you made nationals because that is where you will get clowned by the tier 1 MLS Next/ECNL crowd.

The biggest mistake American players make it playing is playing in the same controlled environments all of the time. I will see what the numbers look like officially but there have not been any fees so far in two years of club that have scared me away and I think I am an average DCUMer.

I know some ODP national pool players in the older 2009-2011 age groups and they are ECNL-RL and MLS Next 2 level players. Most of the national team players go D2 and D3. As long as you understand this and okay with the cost, it is a great supplemental program to give your child more learning versus hanging with the cone-drill crew.

Keep telling yourself that. There are no National Level ODP players from the DMV for those age groups. Those small, very select rosters, are not filled with ECNL-RL players. That is a wishful comment, making the claim that low level players can make the ODP national team.... lol

So this is the message to the parents in the local area?

Don’t encourage players to get into the highest levels of ODP. Discourage everyone instead.

No, it is a reality check to the previous poster above. It is not a message to parents in the DMV to discourage them. The PP poster said no-one of any quality does ODP, it's just some ECNL-RL players who go D3. lol I just checked those ODP national rosters.... for boys and girls 36 players per year for the last 5 years = 180 players... and only 2 are from the DMV.

I don't know what the who previous ODP thread was removed... reading is key to comprehension. (And not just one post out of 200+ posts on the topic.)

ODP State Region Level=Easier (Level 2-3)
ODP State Level =Easy/ Intermediate (Level 3-4)

----BIG JUMP---
ODP National Regional Level = Very Hard (Level 7-9)
ODP National Level=Elite (Level 9-10)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If you decide to decipher through any of the original threads on this topic, you will learn that ODP was once the method of identifying high level talent. It is no longer that.

We did the Development ODP for 2014 and younger this year with VA and my son learned things he did not learn in club from a different coaching perspective. It was a low commitment level as the practices were in Springfield but it was a good experience for my child.

We will probably try out for the official team this upcoming year with the goal to make the state team, regional and national teams in the next few years. We would like to use it for networking, guesting opportunities, etc and we know that a bulk of the MLS Next Tier 1 community will not be there after about two years. Please don't post to IG you made nationals because that is where you will get clowned by the tier 1 MLS Next/ECNL crowd.

The biggest mistake American players make it playing is playing in the same controlled environments all of the time. I will see what the numbers look like officially but there have not been any fees so far in two years of club that have scared me away and I think I am an average DCUMer.

I know some ODP national pool players in the older 2009-2011 age groups and they are ECNL-RL and MLS Next 2 level players. Most of the national team players go D2 and D3. As long as you understand this and okay with the cost, it is a great supplemental program to give your child more learning versus hanging with the cone-drill crew.

Keep telling yourself that. There are no National Level ODP players from the DMV for those age groups. Those small, very select rosters, are not filled with ECNL-RL players. That is a wishful comment, making the claim that low level players can make the ODP national team.... lol

These dem facts boy! IG can verify if you care enough to do some surface level searching. There are two Maryland ODP boys on ODP national team, were recently called up to USYNT camp for their respective ages as well, and both have only ever played for a small club that plays at EDP NL II

This is the PP, thank you for point them out. Thats awesome. But for the girls side... there are ZERO players from VA,DC or MD. But glad two did make it!

Duh girls soccer is at best mid in this region

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If you decide to decipher through any of the original threads on this topic, you will learn that ODP was once the method of identifying high level talent. It is no longer that.

We did the Development ODP for 2014 and younger this year with VA and my son learned things he did not learn in club from a different coaching perspective. It was a low commitment level as the practices were in Springfield but it was a good experience for my child.

We will probably try out for the official team this upcoming year with the goal to make the state team, regional and national teams in the next few years. We would like to use it for networking, guesting opportunities, etc and we know that a bulk of the MLS Next Tier 1 community will not be there after about two years. Please don't post to IG you made nationals because that is where you will get clowned by the tier 1 MLS Next/ECNL crowd.

The biggest mistake American players make it playing is playing in the same controlled environments all of the time. I will see what the numbers look like officially but there have not been any fees so far in two years of club that have scared me away and I think I am an average DCUMer.

I know some ODP national pool players in the older 2009-2011 age groups and they are ECNL-RL and MLS Next 2 level players. Most of the national team players go D2 and D3. As long as you understand this and okay with the cost, it is a great supplemental program to give your child more learning versus hanging with the cone-drill crew.

Keep telling yourself that. There are no National Level ODP players from the DMV for those age groups. Those small, very select rosters, are not filled with ECNL-RL players. That is a wishful comment, making the claim that low level players can make the ODP national team.... lol

So this is the message to the parents in the local area?

Don’t encourage players to get into the highest levels of ODP. Discourage everyone instead.

No, it is a reality check to the previous poster above. It is not a message to parents in the DMV to discourage them. The PP poster said no-one of any quality does ODP, it's just some ECNL-RL players who go D3. lol I just checked those ODP national rosters.... for boys and girls 36 players per year for the last 5 years = 180 players... and only 2 are from the DMV.

I don't know what the who previous ODP thread was removed... reading is key to comprehension. (And not just one post out of 200+ posts on the topic.)

ODP State Region Level=Easier (Level 2-3)
ODP State Level =Easy/ Intermediate (Level 3-4)

----BIG JUMP---
ODP National Regional Level = Very Hard (Level 7-9)
ODP National Level=Elite (Level 9-10)

Thanks for this!

I have read the previous thread and it is all over the place. The judgement of players locally is really irritating considering most of the top players in the younger ages will not stay on top.

Thank you for posting the above synopsis. It actually encourages me to do EDP as I get to know exactly where my kid stands even if it is only a year.

My child is still in 9v9 age ranges so I think it will be a great measuring stick to see where they are.