Elementary School - 9am Start in age of RTO

[Anonymous]

School times have nothing to do with your work hours. If they did, school would go until 6:30pm. That’s what before and after-care is for.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:These are the exact schedules that existed before the mass exodus from the office in the time of Covid. People just have to figure it out. School isn’t babysitting and there are a lot of schedules that have to be accommodated within the school. The system can’t possibly consider all of the many work schedules that exist.

This. We used before and after care when DH and I both worked in the office. Next year, we may both be back in the office again and we are already on the waitlist for before care.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:These are the exact schedules that existed before the mass exodus from the office in the time of Covid. People just have to figure it out. School isn’t babysitting and there are a lot of schedules that have to be accommodated within the school. The system can’t possibly consider all of the many work schedules that exist.

RTO was short hand for the ending of flexible hours.

Every working family I knew had a mom who worked a flex or part time schedule, often with telework even before COVID.

That had been yanked away for thousands of families and will likely worsen

[Anonymous]

In MCPS the start time of our school is 9.25 (some are 9.05, but we could the short straw.) we now do before and after care.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:These are the exact schedules that existed before the mass exodus from the office in the time of Covid. People just have to figure it out. School isn’t babysitting and there are a lot of schedules that have to be accommodated within the school. The system can’t possibly consider all of the many work schedules that exist.

RTO was short hand for the ending of flexible hours.

Every working family I knew had a mom who worked a flex or part time schedule, often with telework even before COVID.

That had been yanked away for thousands of families and will likely worsen

This is not true in my circle. I would go in early and DH would go in later. He would drop off and I would pick up. We had a flexible after care. When I lost a more flexible job we hired a local college student for pick up until dinner.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:These are the exact schedules that existed before the mass exodus from the office in the time of Covid. People just have to figure it out. School isn’t babysitting and there are a lot of schedules that have to be accommodated within the school. The system can’t possibly consider all of the many work schedules that exist.

RTO was short hand for the ending of flexible hours.

Every working family I knew had a mom who worked a flex or part time schedule, often with telework even before COVID.

That had been yanked away for thousands of families and will likely worsen

Really? Pre-Covid, almost all of the working families I knew had parents who worked two full-time in person jobs. Our ES also had evening PTA meetings and a lot of events so clearly catered to full-time working parents..

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:These are the exact schedules that existed before the mass exodus from the office in the time of Covid. People just have to figure it out. School isn’t babysitting and there are a lot of schedules that have to be accommodated within the school. The system can’t possibly consider all of the many work schedules that exist.

RTO was short hand for the ending of flexible hours.

Every working family I knew had a mom who worked a flex or part time schedule, often with telework even before COVID.

That had been yanked away for thousands of families and will likely worsen

That’s your circle.

Mine is almost exclusively teachers who have been facing this challenge their entire career.

High school teachers have to be in their classrooms by 7:20, yet their elementary aged children don’t start until 9:30.

And many of those same teachers have to run after school activities, so they can’t pick up their own children.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Because the educational system does not revolve around federal government workers. The vast majority of parents in my kids' schools are not federal government employees.

But apparently in MCPS the educational system revolves around busing for high school sports. Should it revolve around what is best for students in terms of learning? And that would be to have ES start earlier and HS start later. But don’t act like MCPS is making decisions to support students.

[Anonymous]

I’ve never understood this either.

Our district is:
MS 7:30
ES 8:00
HS 8:30

They won’t move the HS start any later due to sports….and definitely won’t push it earlier either.

There has been discussion of switching MS and ES start time but really no one wants the 7:30 start….

Bussing schedules really make things challenging. 9AM start time for elementary is absurd IMO.

[Anonymous]

Loudoun has sent the ES kids first for over 20 years.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I’ve never understood this either.

Our district is:
MS 7:30
ES 8:00
HS 8:30

They won’t move the HS start any later due to sports….and definitely won’t push it earlier either.

There has been discussion of switching MS and ES start time but really no one wants the 7:30 start….

Bussing schedules really make things challenging. 9AM start time for elementary is absurd IMO.

Almost all public schools across Australia start at 9am.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:They're talking about moving my kid's start to 9:50.

Our zoned school is one of those too. We were 9:20. Switched to private with an 8:10 bell and a longer school day (by 20 minutes) and even with the longer day it's just so much better. My kids were already early birds and I like getting to work before 9:30.

9:50 will be insane for older ES kids who have as many extracurriculars as their middle school counterparts. Most of my kids' friends in late ES do travel sports with multiple practices a week, and those practices are typically not in the 7-9 timeslot...

[Anonymous]

We've always had dual parents working in person and an elementary school with a 9:15 start. We pay for before and after care at the school. It opens at 7, closes at 6. Very long day for our kids, but I guess that's life. They are older now and have turned out just fine.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Blame the HS parents whose teens are “so tired” from being online all night that they can’t wake up. They moved HS start time from 7:15 to 7:45 so they can get more sleep. It’s called being a parent and collecting cell phones by 10PM Sunday-Thursday and shutting down wifi overnight. It worked amazingly well with my late 20s kids and the same is true for my current teen.

You know it;s well established that teens' biological clocks = they SHOULD sleep later?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:These are the exact schedules that existed before the mass exodus from the office in the time of Covid. People just have to figure it out. School isn’t babysitting and there are a lot of schedules that have to be accommodated within the school. The system can’t possibly consider all of the many work schedules that exist.

RTO was short hand for the ending of flexible hours.

Every working family I knew had a mom who worked a flex or part time schedule, often with telework even before COVID.

That had been yanked away for thousands of families and will likely worsen

Really? So it's women's fault if their jobs don't allow for this?