Harvard vs Yale - major difference in interest in public service jobs

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Anonymous wrote:Yale ‘02 and we have always been more oriented towards public service-type roles than Harvard. It’s cultural and part of what drew me to Yale over other schools I was admitted to, Harvard included. I can’t articulate it but there is a motto that pops up everywhere at Yale, especially in songs and historic stuff: “For God, For Country, and For Yale”.

Here’s an except from a 1950 issue of the Harvard crimson discussing the differences between the schools- everything in the article rings true of my experience save for some outdated terms (we still had heeling but not wheels), which mentions the phrase:

“The last phrase, probably the most anticlimactic periodic sentence in American literature, is engraved on Gothic walls and Yalemen hearts. "By God, that really means something here," says a professor who switched recently from another college. "I thought it was a gag until I saw it in stone. It is enormously strong as a symbol."”

https://www.thecrimson.com/article/1950/11/25/yale-for-god-country-and-success/

This is one thing I can't stand about Yale alum. All these unnecessary soliloquies about them; we get it, you went to Yale.

Sorry no one asked you what makes your alma mater unique. Maybe you can start a separate thread fishing for compliments about your fellow alumni.

I don't aspire to. That was the whole point of the comment. My alma mater is mentioned every day here, but I have no interest writing paragraphs about how fantastic it is, rather giving substantive commentary matters more.

Don’t be shy. I would read paragraphs about how fantastic Bucknell is.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Your posting made it onto a job board at Yale. That's great. don't overthink this.

+ 1,000

DCUM has many dumb threats. This is definitely one of them.

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Anonymous wrote:When are we gonna start talking about football…I’m calling Harvard this fall. Offense is to strong.

Best receiver transferred to Duke.

And also Yale has home field advantage. But I will concede that Harvard returning QB is strong and lots of stability in offensive line. Tough to call.

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Anonymous wrote:When are we gonna start talking about football…I’m calling Harvard this fall. Offense is to strong.

Best receiver transferred to Duke.

And also Yale has home field advantage. But I will concede that Harvard returning QB is strong and lots of stability in offensive line. Tough to call.

There is no real home field advantage in the Harvard Yale football rivalry. In fact, there may be a negative effect for the home team over last decade (although not statistically significant).

IMO, Harvard’s offense this year will be defined by whether their young receivers show up. Even if they do, tough match up with Yale’s DB’s this year.

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Anonymous wrote:Yale ‘02 and we have always been more oriented towards public service-type roles than Harvard. It’s cultural and part of what drew me to Yale over other schools I was admitted to, Harvard included. I can’t articulate it but there is a motto that pops up everywhere at Yale, especially in songs and historic stuff: “For God, For Country, and For Yale”.

Here’s an except from a 1950 issue of the Harvard crimson discussing the differences between the schools- everything in the article rings true of my experience save for some outdated terms (we still had heeling but not wheels), which mentions the phrase:

“The last phrase, probably the most anticlimactic periodic sentence in American literature, is engraved on Gothic walls and Yalemen hearts. "By God, that really means something here," says a professor who switched recently from another college. "I thought it was a gag until I saw it in stone. It is enormously strong as a symbol."”

https://www.thecrimson.com/article/1950/11/25/yale-for-god-country-and-success/

This is one thing I can't stand about Yale alum. All these unnecessary soliloquies about them; we get it, you went to Yale.

Sorry no one asked you what makes your alma mater unique. Maybe you can start a separate thread fishing for compliments about your fellow alumni.

I don't aspire to. That was the whole point of the comment. My alma mater is mentioned every day here, but I have no interest writing paragraphs about how fantastic it is, rather giving substantive commentary matters more.

Don’t be shy. I would read paragraphs about how fantastic Bucknell is.

I went to Princeton, but thanks for the jokes.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m hiring for an entry level role with a quasi state org in the north east that is part econ dev that engages with the venture space and we get very interesting applications when we have openings.

We don’t always hire out of undergrad but it’s been eye opening to see the quality and quantity of applications we have received from Harvard class of 24 or class of 25 vs Yale class of 24 or 25

We are getting phi beta kappa Yale grads, kids from all sorts of majors (liberal arts, cs, math, social sciences etc), kids who have written for ydn etc

And we’ve received about 30 resumes from Yale kids

Harvard - 2 and they were horrible resumes.

It seems that either there is a major gap in the employability in Harvard vs yale kids this year and Yale kids are struggling on the market vs Harvard hence applying to me.

Or Yale kids inherently care a heck of lot more about public service esque jobs vs Harvard kids these days.

Or someone at Yale has honed into your job and it is not on Harvard’s radar. Duh.

Exactly. How well was the job marketed at each school? Or maybe it is an awful job and the Harvard kids are smart enough to realize that. Or maybe it is in Hartford and Yale kids are naturally more inclined to work there than Harvard (I know Yale is a global school but kids often tend to be more willing to stay in the state where they went to school after spending four years there).

Some of us are smart enough not to generalize off of one data point and also to wonder if their are other explanations for results.

Yale students do not stay in state. There's nothing Connecticut provides for a young person. They leave to New York or Boston.

I know a few Yale grads who stayed in state, for instance to work in Stamford. And a good bunch are from Conn so they stayed.

Signed,

A Yale Grad

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Anonymous wrote:Yes, I think Yale has much more of a public service vibe.

I would agree with that, but there's not enough info for me to surmise why this one random job posting got more interest from Yalies. Could be as simple as the Yale Career Services office featured it while Harvard's did not.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Yale ‘02 and we have always been more oriented towards public service-type roles than Harvard. It’s cultural and part of what drew me to Yale over other schools I was admitted to, Harvard included. I can’t articulate it but there is a motto that pops up everywhere at Yale, especially in songs and historic stuff: “For God, For Country, and For Yale”.

Here’s an except from a 1950 issue of the Harvard crimson discussing the differences between the schools- everything in the article rings true of my experience save for some outdated terms (we still had heeling but not wheels), which mentions the phrase:

“The last phrase, probably the most anticlimactic periodic sentence in American literature, is engraved on Gothic walls and Yalemen hearts. "By God, that really means something here," says a professor who switched recently from another college. "I thought it was a gag until I saw it in stone. It is enormously strong as a symbol."”

https://www.thecrimson.com/article/1950/11/25/yale-for-god-country-and-success/

This is one thing I can't stand about Yale alum. All these unnecessary soliloquies about them; we get it, you went to Yale.

This is a 1950 article about Yale from the Harvard Crimson. So, not written by a Yalie. And it's the strangest thing I've read in a while.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Yale ‘02 and we have always been more oriented towards public service-type roles than Harvard. It’s cultural and part of what drew me to Yale over other schools I was admitted to, Harvard included. I can’t articulate it but there is a motto that pops up everywhere at Yale, especially in songs and historic stuff: “For God, For Country, and For Yale”.

Here’s an except from a 1950 issue of the Harvard crimson discussing the differences between the schools- everything in the article rings true of my experience save for some outdated terms (we still had heeling but not wheels), which mentions the phrase:

“The last phrase, probably the most anticlimactic periodic sentence in American literature, is engraved on Gothic walls and Yalemen hearts. "By God, that really means something here," says a professor who switched recently from another college. "I thought it was a gag until I saw it in stone. It is enormously strong as a symbol."”

https://www.thecrimson.com/article/1950/11/25/yale-for-god-country-and-success/

Notre Dame called. It wants its motto back.

Google it.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Yale ‘02 and we have always been more oriented towards public service-type roles than Harvard. It’s cultural and part of what drew me to Yale over other schools I was admitted to, Harvard included. I can’t articulate it but there is a motto that pops up everywhere at Yale, especially in songs and historic stuff: “For God, For Country, and For Yale”.

Here’s an except from a 1950 issue of the Harvard crimson discussing the differences between the schools- everything in the article rings true of my experience save for some outdated terms (we still had heeling but not wheels), which mentions the phrase:

“The last phrase, probably the most anticlimactic periodic sentence in American literature, is engraved on Gothic walls and Yalemen hearts. "By God, that really means something here," says a professor who switched recently from another college. "I thought it was a gag until I saw it in stone. It is enormously strong as a symbol."”

https://www.thecrimson.com/article/1950/11/25/yale-for-god-country-and-success/

This is one thing I can't stand about Yale alum. All these unnecessary soliloquies about them; we get it, you went to Yale.

This is a 1950 article about Yale from the Harvard Crimson. So, not written by a Yalie. And it's the strangest thing I've read in a while.

I wasn’t talking about the article, my lord.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Yale ‘02 and we have always been more oriented towards public service-type roles than Harvard. It’s cultural and part of what drew me to Yale over other schools I was admitted to, Harvard included. I can’t articulate it but there is a motto that pops up everywhere at Yale, especially in songs and historic stuff: “For God, For Country, and For Yale”.

Here’s an except from a 1950 issue of the Harvard crimson discussing the differences between the schools- everything in the article rings true of my experience save for some outdated terms (we still had heeling but not wheels), which mentions the phrase:

“The last phrase, probably the most anticlimactic periodic sentence in American literature, is engraved on Gothic walls and Yalemen hearts. "By God, that really means something here," says a professor who switched recently from another college. "I thought it was a gag until I saw it in stone. It is enormously strong as a symbol."”

https://www.thecrimson.com/article/1950/11/25/yale-for-god-country-and-success/

This is one thing I can't stand about Yale alum. All these unnecessary soliloquies about them; we get it, you went to Yale.

Sorry no one asked you what makes your alma mater unique. Maybe you can start a separate thread fishing for compliments about your fellow alumni.

I don't aspire to. That was the whole point of the comment. My alma mater is mentioned every day here, but I have no interest writing paragraphs about how fantastic it is, rather giving substantive commentary matters more.

Don’t be shy. I would read paragraphs about how fantastic Bucknell is.

Long, slender paragraphs with uni-directional sentences and metallic language.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Yale ‘02 and we have always been more oriented towards public service-type roles than Harvard. It’s cultural and part of what drew me to Yale over other schools I was admitted to, Harvard included. I can’t articulate it but there is a motto that pops up everywhere at Yale, especially in songs and historic stuff: “For God, For Country, and For Yale”.

Here’s an except from a 1950 issue of the Harvard crimson discussing the differences between the schools- everything in the article rings true of my experience save for some outdated terms (we still had heeling but not wheels), which mentions the phrase:

“The last phrase, probably the most anticlimactic periodic sentence in American literature, is engraved on Gothic walls and Yalemen hearts. "By God, that really means something here," says a professor who switched recently from another college. "I thought it was a gag until I saw it in stone. It is enormously strong as a symbol."”

https://www.thecrimson.com/article/1950/11/25/yale-for-god-country-and-success/

This is one thing I can't stand about Yale alum. All these unnecessary soliloquies about them; we get it, you went to Yale.

Sorry no one asked you what makes your alma mater unique. Maybe you can start a separate thread fishing for compliments about your fellow alumni.

I don't aspire to. That was the whole point of the comment. My alma mater is mentioned every day here, but I have no interest writing paragraphs about how fantastic it is, rather giving substantive commentary matters more.

Don’t be shy. I would read paragraphs about how fantastic Bucknell is.

I went to Princeton, but thanks for the jokes.

Aw, Princeton. It’s hard to be the third wheel. Sending hugs.

Superior mascot, though.

[Anonymous]

There is some sort of saying, I can’t remember what it is, but it’s along the lines of “don’t send your kid to Yale if you want them to make money.” It’s more a reflection on the type of kid who goes to Yale - public service oriented or artsy, than over their employability.

I actually think this reflects well on Yale, esp. vis a vis Harvard

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Yale ‘02 and we have always been more oriented towards public service-type roles than Harvard. It’s cultural and part of what drew me to Yale over other schools I was admitted to, Harvard included. I can’t articulate it but there is a motto that pops up everywhere at Yale, especially in songs and historic stuff: “For God, For Country, and For Yale”.

Here’s an except from a 1950 issue of the Harvard crimson discussing the differences between the schools- everything in the article rings true of my experience save for some outdated terms (we still had heeling but not wheels), which mentions the phrase:

“The last phrase, probably the most anticlimactic periodic sentence in American literature, is engraved on Gothic walls and Yalemen hearts. "By God, that really means something here," says a professor who switched recently from another college. "I thought it was a gag until I saw it in stone. It is enormously strong as a symbol."”

https://www.thecrimson.com/article/1950/11/25/yale-for-god-country-and-success/

Notre Dame called. It wants its motto back.

Google it.

Not to nitpick but Notre Dame didn’t use their similar phrase or put it on the basilica until well after it had been in common use at Yale. There’s some debate about whether or not ND was even aware of how it was used at Yale, but I think the simplicity of ND’s version suggests it came spontaneously, especially given the nature of it first being used on the basilica in remembrance of WWI.

Notably for the English nerds, Yale’s version has elevated literary interest compared to ND’s because of how it employs “for” and “and” and creates a catacosmesis. And now I’ve used that word 3x in my life: HS AP class, college lit class, and today.

[Anonymous]

Are we debating about why T10 grada would or would not take a job at a non-profit? The answer is, really, who has a trust fund. Lids without trusts have to make real money