Need explanation from MAGA - why dismantle African American Museum and not recognize Indigenous People Day?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Not really sure why we need to discard Columbus Day. It's not about celebrating Christopher Columbus as a person, it is about celebrating the meeting of Europe and the Americas, which is basically the beginning of history for America as a country. We were not founded as a descendant of American Indians, but instead our culture, laws, aspirations, and ideals flow from Europe, specifically from the UK and before that, Greece.

Columbus had almost nothing to do with the meeting of Europe with the Americas, though.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Here you go, includes a link to Trump’s EO: https://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/some-artifacts-removed-from-african-american-history-museum-after-executive-order/3900353/

Museum exhibits, such as this one, have prompted a closer look at these institutions because the same people running these institutions selected this exhibit in the first place:



The fact there was an apology in this case appears disingenuous.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Here you go, includes a link to Trump’s EO: https://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/some-artifacts-removed-from-african-american-history-museum-after-executive-order/3900353/

Linda St. Thomas, the Smithsonian Institute's chief spokesperson, released a statement in response to visitors seeing artifacts being removed from exhibits.

"The Greensboro, NC, lunch counter is not leaving the Smithsonian. It is on display at the National Museum of American History where it has been for many years. The National Museum of African American History and Culture (NMAAHC) also has two stools from the original counter; one is on exhibit at all times, the other rotates in so that they can be properly preserved.

The Bible and book belong to Rev. Brown of San Francisco who generously loaned them to the Smithsonian’s National Museum of African American History and Culture for an exhibition. The loan agreement expires in May and the items are being returned to the owner which is standard museum practice. The curator called and wrote to Rev. Brown.

With regard to the loan, NMAAHC added:
As part of our commitment to responsible stewardship, we will continue to honor all loan agreements, including the timely return of objects. These will be going back to the owner."

Oops. And explain why, if Trump is trying to turn the US into Christian nationalist country, would be get rid of bibles?

Interesting how you quote the person who has to speak for the administration rather than what Rev Brown had to say himself.

Anyone that refers to themselves as a reverend is suspect.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Removing and replacing artifacts and exhibits in museums - a practice that has occurred since forever, and returning those artifacts to those who initially donated them in the first place - that’s “dismantling”?

There’s not even a discussion to be had here. You’re incapable of reason.

Ignorant and duped MAGA, this is being done by Trump’s order for reasons any intelligent and educated person fully understands. You go ahead and believe this is normal and fine. There is no hope for you cult members.

Please list and describe the artifacts that were removed and returned to their donors, and what replaced them.


Educate us. Here’s your opportunity. Don’t blow it.

Civil rights activist Rev. Amos Brown says he was recently notified two of the artifacts he loaned to the museum would be returned back to him.

He described one of the books written by Rev. George Washington Williams in 1880 as a "precious and most historic book" and the "first history of the Negro race."

The other book was a Bible he took to demonstrations with Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. and Jesse Jackson.

Brown said he lent the artifacts to the Smithsonian in 2016. He said the museum always gave him the option of donating the books permanently or renewing the loan, but this time he wasn't asked.

"It is downright dishonest and it is demeaning," Brown said. "I hope people of good will, of conscience and common sense will rise up and say 'we need to stop this'."

We keep trying, you don't want to be educated.

So returning two artifacts that have been on display for 9 years is “dismantling the museum”.


Got it.


I guess there’s really not much else for you to say about this.

[Anonymous]

The donors did not ask for the items back.

The shitty Trump administration wanted them out because they want to whitewash history.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Here you go, includes a link to Trump’s EO: https://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/some-artifacts-removed-from-african-american-history-museum-after-executive-order/3900353/

Museum exhibits, such as this one, have prompted a closer look at these institutions because the same people running these institutions selected this exhibit in the first place:



The fact there was an apology in this case appears disingenuous.

How about the fact it was removed about 6 years ago and this is still the only thing you can find to gripe about?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Removing and replacing artifacts and exhibits in museums - a practice that has occurred since forever, and returning those artifacts to those who initially donated them in the first place - that’s “dismantling”?

There’s not even a discussion to be had here. You’re incapable of reason.

Ignorant and duped MAGA, this is being done by Trump’s order for reasons any intelligent and educated person fully understands. You go ahead and believe this is normal and fine. There is no hope for you cult members.

Please list and describe the artifacts that were removed and returned to their donors, and what replaced them.


Educate us. Here’s your opportunity. Don’t blow it.

Civil rights activist Rev. Amos Brown says he was recently notified two of the artifacts he loaned to the museum would be returned back to him.

He described one of the books written by Rev. George Washington Williams in 1880 as a "precious and most historic book" and the "first history of the Negro race."

The other book was a Bible he took to demonstrations with Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. and Jesse Jackson.

Brown said he lent the artifacts to the Smithsonian in 2016. He said the museum always gave him the option of donating the books permanently or renewing the loan, but this time he wasn't asked.

"It is downright dishonest and it is demeaning," Brown said. "I hope people of good will, of conscience and common sense will rise up and say 'we need to stop this'."

We keep trying, you don't want to be educated.

So returning two artifacts that have been on display for 9 years is “dismantling the museum”.


Got it.


I guess there’s really not much else for you to say about this.

The Museum has only been there for 9 years. They are dismantling an original exhibit.

I grew up near Greensboro and was never taught this in school. Then in my late 20s early 30s (in th early 2000s— before a it came to the Smithsonian), I worked a couple of blocks from the Woolworths and started passing it, walking to lunch. And went into the museum. And learned about it. It’s a really powerful exhibit and story. The message of non-violent civil disobedience is an important one. And this is as important for history as Rosa Parks bus seat— but less taught and told. Kids from the local “black” college (I believe they were students at GSO A&T) making a quiet, peaceful statement. The Smithsonian is losing an important part of history that often was not told x especially to Gen X and older, and especially in the South.

And it’s a message that should resonate today. When faced with things we believe to be unjust, how to we respond? These men sat quietly in their convictions. No yelling, violent, signs, picketing. They just sat calmly. (GSO’s response— less peaceful and quiet and non-violent). And they made real change. What is so offensive about this? Except that even peacefully, quietly holding your ground against Trump is no longer allowed.

[Anonymous]

Why is this a question?
This is a racist, sexist, homophobic administration.
They want to erase and rewrite history, painting white people as the heroes of every story.
Slavery? Those happy black folks wanted to come here!
Jim Crow? Never heard of it.
Brown v Board of Ed, huh? whaaaa?
etc. etc. etc.
Europeans never stole the Native Americans' land! We paid for it, fair and square!! etc. etc. etc.
Got it?

[Anonymous]

I wouldn't mind dismantling African American History Museum. The building is ugly.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Columbus Day is not dismantled. It is still a national holiday. Indigenous People’s Day was added as recognized. Perfect example of MAGA ignorance and fear of replacement. You people must be the most uneducated and duped people on the planet.

Our school calendar only says Indigenous People's Day.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The donors did not ask for the items back.

The shitty Trump administration wanted them out because they want to whitewash history.

Yes, yes, yes. Donald Trump has been fixated on sending a Bible and another book back to the donor since 2021.


I’m sure you’re right. This has been Priority Number One for his second term.


I should’ve known better than to argue with someone as informed as you.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Columbus Day is not dismantled. It is still a national holiday. Indigenous People’s Day was added as recognized. Perfect example of MAGA ignorance and fear of replacement. You people must be the most uneducated and duped people on the planet.

Our school calendar only says Indigenous People's Day.

A perfect example of historical revisionism.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Why is this a question?
This is a racist, sexist, homophobic administration.
They want to erase and rewrite history, painting white people as the heroes of every story.
Slavery? Those happy black folks wanted to come here!
Jim Crow? Never heard of it.
Brown v Board of Ed, huh? whaaaa?
etc. etc. etc.
Europeans never stole the Native Americans' land! We paid for it, fair and square!! etc. etc. etc.
Got it?

Please link to quotes from any Trump Administration officials quotes to the effect of:

“We want to paint white people as the hero of every story”

Or

“Jim Crow? Never heard of it”.



Any credible news source will do. Video preferred, but any direct quote supporting the above will suffice.




Get busy. You've got work to do.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I wouldn't mind dismantling African American History Museum. The building is ugly.

Really? It's not gorgeous like the Museum of the American Indian (or the Peace building) but it is striking and not, to my eye, ugly. It's highly visual, which I appreciate.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Please help me understand why our country and history must be whitewashed? Is it out of hatred for people of color and native Americans? You were outraged by taking down confederate monuments (bc these monuments were HONORING racists. No one wants to remove them from history. In fact we NEED to recognize actual history). I am white and I am in tears hearing about this. Not only that, I am afraid of the white supremacy and propaganda that is happening. This has nothing to do with DEI. This is real history and real people. MAGA, please explain why you want this for our country.

Cite your sources.