Can we get another Jesuit pope?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If you want a Francis like Pope, you don't necessarily want to only think about a Jesuit. You really might want Aveline or Tagle.

These are the three Jesuit Cardinals young enough to be electors

Michael F. Czerny
Jean-Claude Hollerich
Stephen Chow Sau-yan

There are four more who range from 80-90. While extremely unlikely, it is theoretically possible one could be elected
Julius Riyadi Darmaatmadja
Pedro Ricardo Barreto Jimeno
Luis Francisco Ladaria Ferrer
Sigitas Tamkevičius

Interesting thanks

What are the focuses of Avelnes and Tagels?

Here is a good write up about Aveline:
https://international.la-croix.com/news/religion/jean-marc-aveline-the-french-cardinal-who-has-the-popes-ear/18350

He was very close to Pope Francis, relationally and theologically

Tagle is not a step backwards from Francis, they both believe that while homosexuality is a sin it shouldn't be a crime. nor should gay people be isolated from society or the church, and people should remember that God is the judge.

https://www.them.us/story/cardinal-luis-antonio-tagle-pope-front-runner-catholic-church-francis-conclave

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Yes, please!

+1. I love the Jesuits and would love for the next pope to be similar to Pope Francis.

Or Benedictines. Too bad there aren't any Benedictine Cardinals.

[Anonymous]

Time for an African pope. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Sarah

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:What are the chances?

Very, very low.

There are only 8 Jesuit cardinals who would qualify for Pope - it's not a requirement to be a cardinal, but that's who they've been choosing for many many years.

The Jesuits don't end up in the Church hierarchy very often because they are a very different order of priests and they have a different philosophy.

The Catholic Church would benefit greatly from letting the Jesuits be popes for the next 100 years, but it is unlikely there will ever be another Jesuit pope.

The history of how Francis fell out with his Jesuit brethren in Argentina and thus fell into the Church hierarchy and eventually into the Popehood is fascinating. He was a true gem and there with never be another like him.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What are the chances?

Very, very low.

There are only 8 Jesuit cardinals who would qualify for Pope - it's not a requirement to be a cardinal, but that's who they've been choosing for many many years.

The Jesuits don't end up in the Church hierarchy very often because they are a very different order of priests and they have a different philosophy.

The Catholic Church would benefit greatly from letting the Jesuits be popes for the next 100 years, but it is unlikely there will ever be another Jesuit pope.

The history of how Francis fell out with his Jesuit brethren in Argentina and thus fell into the Church hierarchy and eventually into the Popehood is fascinating. He was a true gem and there with never be another like him.

I’m not sure by what standard you are measuring “benefit”, but I don’t see it. Jesuits are way above average at non-religious education, they are pretty good at organizational structuring/setup (especially early phases), and they are very weak at religious formation.

I think this is largely driven by their own formation process—sending their novices and brothers to college campuses during their own formation acts as a self-selecting filtering mechanism.

I fear more Jesuit popes would lead to schism.

Certainly no religious order is perfect, but I cannot think of a single scenario in which it would be a good idea to have any one religious order in control of the papacy for successive pontificates, let alone a century.

If we want Popes that are close to the people, men that came up as diocesan clergy are the answer. I entrust my children’s education to two separate religious orders (neither Jesuit), and I love those orders. But the religious orders live a different, more focused life than the men that come up through the dioceses.