Bukele swapping Venezuelans for political prisoners

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:El Salvador under Bukele has gone from a crime ridden cesspool to one of the safest countries in the western hemisphere. Obviously, he has done something right, whether you choose to admit it or not.

"Despite the restrictions, the improvements in security have contributed to Bukele’s extremely high popularity. For years, many Salvadorans lived in fear of the gangs that controlled swaths of the country, extorting, killing and forcibly recruiting.

In 2015, El Salvador had 6,656 homicides, making it one of the world’s deadliest countries. In 2023, there were 214 homicides.

The gangs’ repressive control made it difficult and dangerous for residents to travel between neighborhoods, including for work. Now residents say they can walk their neighborhoods without fear."

https://apnews.com/article/el-salvador-homicides-gangs-bukele-69384a8705267eaddd18dcd28a53465b

Yes, he has lowered El Salvador's crime rate. As many on here have said many times: he has also suspended due process, routinely has people arrested without cause, and secretly (while loudly denying it) made deals with the gangs, which included favoring and even releasing the gang leaders while they were committing massacres, while incarcerating the lower level people. One of these leaders,César Humberto López Larios , is a violent criminal (released by Bukele from jail as part of a secret deal) whom the US has worked very hard to capture, have extradited from Mexico, and convict. He was about to give testimony about his deals with Bukele in the US. But Bukele came up with the fun idea of having Trump pay him to hold prisoners and why not throw in a few Salvadorans while he was at it. Obviously the guy can't blab from a concentration camp.

To be fair to Trump, he probably didn't know anything about the guy. Let's face it, Trump is clueless. he doesn't even look at the news anymore to know how clueless everyone is realizing he is. Bukele is actually a bright (manipulative and conniving ) guy.

He’s way smarter than Trump, that’s for sure. And playing low IQ I’m-smart-because-my-uncle-taught-at-MIT Donny like a fiddle.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:El Salvador under Bukele has gone from a crime ridden cesspool to one of the safest countries in the western hemisphere. Obviously, he has done something right, whether you choose to admit it or not.

"Despite the restrictions, the improvements in security have contributed to Bukele’s extremely high popularity. For years, many Salvadorans lived in fear of the gangs that controlled swaths of the country, extorting, killing and forcibly recruiting.

In 2015, El Salvador had 6,656 homicides, making it one of the world’s deadliest countries. In 2023, there were 214 homicides.

The gangs’ repressive control made it difficult and dangerous for residents to travel between neighborhoods, including for work. Now residents say they can walk their neighborhoods without fear."

https://apnews.com/article/el-salvador-homicides-gangs-bukele-69384a8705267eaddd18dcd28a53465b

Statistically speaking, if we went into impoverished neighborhoods in the US and indiscriminately rounded up men, POC, we would lower the crime rate. No thanks though. It sounds like you support removing due process?

How is it that due process keeps criminals roaming free so effectively?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:El Salvador under Bukele has gone from a crime ridden cesspool to one of the safest countries in the western hemisphere. Obviously, he has done something right, whether you choose to admit it or not.

"Despite the restrictions, the improvements in security have contributed to Bukele’s extremely high popularity. For years, many Salvadorans lived in fear of the gangs that controlled swaths of the country, extorting, killing and forcibly recruiting.

In 2015, El Salvador had 6,656 homicides, making it one of the world’s deadliest countries. In 2023, there were 214 homicides.

The gangs’ repressive control made it difficult and dangerous for residents to travel between neighborhoods, including for work. Now residents say they can walk their neighborhoods without fear."

https://apnews.com/article/el-salvador-homicides-gangs-bukele-69384a8705267eaddd18dcd28a53465b

Statistically speaking, if we went into impoverished neighborhoods in the US and indiscriminately rounded up men, POC, we would lower the crime rate. No thanks though. It sounds like you support removing due process?

How is it that due process keeps criminals roaming free so effectively?

So you want to remove due process? Just say it out loud.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:El Salvador under Bukele has gone from a crime ridden cesspool to one of the safest countries in the western hemisphere. Obviously, he has done something right, whether you choose to admit it or not.

"Despite the restrictions, the improvements in security have contributed to Bukele’s extremely high popularity. For years, many Salvadorans lived in fear of the gangs that controlled swaths of the country, extorting, killing and forcibly recruiting.

In 2015, El Salvador had 6,656 homicides, making it one of the world’s deadliest countries. In 2023, there were 214 homicides.

The gangs’ repressive control made it difficult and dangerous for residents to travel between neighborhoods, including for work. Now residents say they can walk their neighborhoods without fear."

https://apnews.com/article/el-salvador-homicides-gangs-bukele-69384a8705267eaddd18dcd28a53465b

Statistically speaking, if we went into impoverished neighborhoods in the US and indiscriminately rounded up men, POC, we would lower the crime rate. No thanks though. It sounds like you support removing due process?

How is it that due process keeps criminals roaming free so effectively?

What do you think? Are you willing to admit or acknowledge the removal of due process in El Salvador? Do you think that is an ideal Americans should emulate? Should prison sentences be lifetime for tattoos? Genuine questions for you.

[Anonymous]

Please note the deliberate goading of Maduro and how somehow he makes this situation about his own superiority. There is nothing earnest about this swap. Obvious gamesmanship.

Of course, Maduro will be provoked!

However, if the swap does happen, I will give the Venezuelan authoritarian a lot of credit for putting human rights first in this situation when it is clearly just for show.

One thing is certain, though. Trump is irrelevant! The indifference toward the deal with Trump (it is not even worth mentioning!) is shocking.

Bukele is laughing at Trump and not even trying to hide it.

From the NYT
“Unlike you, who holds political prisoners,” Mr. Bukele wrote, “we do not have political prisoners. All the Venezuelans we have in custody were detained as part of an operation against gangs like Tren de Aragua in the United States.”

Mr. Bukele said his government would send “the formal correspondence” and ended his message saying, “God bless the people of Venezuela.”

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP here. I am shocked at what Americans don't care about.

I know the family of one of the incarcerated Venezuelans. He came to the US legally. He had an asylum case pending. He is a kind, hard working, college graduate. He has no criminal records anywhere. He has never been close to Tren de Aragua. Sending him to a concentration camp in El Salvador is doing what Hitler did.

If Americans don't care that our country has become Nazi Germany, then I don't understand any of you. If you allow this to happen, you are complicit.

If he came here legally, no need for an asylum case. Stop lying.

Spoken like a true MAGA idiot.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP here. I am shocked at what Americans don't care about.

I know the family of one of the incarcerated Venezuelans. He came to the US legally. He had an asylum case pending. He is a kind, hard working, college graduate. He has no criminal records anywhere. He has never been close to Tren de Aragua. Sending him to a concentration camp in El Salvador is doing what Hitler did.

If Americans don't care that our country has become Nazi Germany, then I don't understand any of you. If you allow this to happen, you are complicit.

If he came here legally, no need for an asylum case. Stop lying.

Spoken like a true MAGA idiot.

Yes, MAGA are suddenly immigration law experts. They speak very confidently about things they know nothing about.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:El Salvador under Bukele has gone from a crime ridden cesspool to one of the safest countries in the western hemisphere. Obviously, he has done something right, whether you choose to admit it or not.

"Despite the restrictions, the improvements in security have contributed to Bukele’s extremely high popularity. For years, many Salvadorans lived in fear of the gangs that controlled swaths of the country, extorting, killing and forcibly recruiting.

In 2015, El Salvador had 6,656 homicides, making it one of the world’s deadliest countries. In 2023, there were 214 homicides.

The gangs’ repressive control made it difficult and dangerous for residents to travel between neighborhoods, including for work. Now residents say they can walk their neighborhoods without fear."

https://apnews.com/article/el-salvador-homicides-gangs-bukele-69384a8705267eaddd18dcd28a53465b

Statistically speaking, if we went into impoverished neighborhoods in the US and indiscriminately rounded up men, POC, we would lower the crime rate. No thanks though. It sounds like you support removing due process?

Fairly certain the US has already done this which is why said communities are having to film police corruption and violence perpetrated against innocent people. And also certain that this contributes to larger corruption like private prisons.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:El Salvador under Bukele has gone from a crime ridden cesspool to one of the safest countries in the western hemisphere. Obviously, he has done something right, whether you choose to admit it or not.

"Despite the restrictions, the improvements in security have contributed to Bukele’s extremely high popularity. For years, many Salvadorans lived in fear of the gangs that controlled swaths of the country, extorting, killing and forcibly recruiting.

In 2015, El Salvador had 6,656 homicides, making it one of the world’s deadliest countries. In 2023, there were 214 homicides.

The gangs’ repressive control made it difficult and dangerous for residents to travel between neighborhoods, including for work. Now residents say they can walk their neighborhoods without fear."

https://apnews.com/article/el-salvador-homicides-gangs-bukele-69384a8705267eaddd18dcd28a53465b

Statistically speaking, if we went into impoverished neighborhoods in the US and indiscriminately rounded up men, POC, we would lower the crime rate. No thanks though. It sounds like you support removing due process?

Statistically speaking if you rounded up all young white men, school shootings would drop to almost zero. So, yeah, let’s ship ‘em all to El Salvador!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP here. I am shocked at what Americans don't care about.

I know the family of one of the incarcerated Venezuelans. He came to the US legally. He had an asylum case pending. He is a kind, hard working, college graduate. He has no criminal records anywhere. He has never been close to Tren de Aragua. Sending him to a concentration camp in El Salvador is doing what Hitler did.

If Americans don't care that our country has become Nazi Germany, then I don't understand any of you. If you allow this to happen, you are complicit.

If he came here legally, no need for an asylum case. Stop lying.

You obviously don't know how legal immigration works. Go spend a few minutes on google, then crack open the Constituion.

Again stop lying... If he needs asylum he would do so at the next country over.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP here. I am shocked at what Americans don't care about.

I know the family of one of the incarcerated Venezuelans. He came to the US legally. He had an asylum case pending. He is a kind, hard working, college graduate. He has no criminal records anywhere. He has never been close to Tren de Aragua. Sending him to a concentration camp in El Salvador is doing what Hitler did.

If Americans don't care that our country has become Nazi Germany, then I don't understand any of you. If you allow this to happen, you are complicit.

If he came here legally, no need for an asylum case. Stop lying.

You obviously don't know how legal immigration works. Go spend a few minutes on google, then crack open the Constituion.

Again stop lying... If he needs asylum he would do so at the next country over.

Where do you get your absurd ideas?