What are we learning from the RIFs?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:How are offices defined for RIFs? Still confused about this.

Only DOGE knows and they’re not sharing.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How are offices defined for RIFs? Still confused about this.

Only DOGE knows and they’re not sharing.

It is by org code. So it could be sub offices within offices.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How are offices defined for RIFs? Still confused about this.

Only DOGE knows and they’re not sharing.

It is by org code. So it could be sub offices within offices.

But it’s not even. The same offices were spared in some centers and eliminated in others yesterday.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How are offices defined for RIFs? Still confused about this.

Pretty much the whole group under one supervisor. Different agencies probably have different names, but it can be any functional group.

How would that work in an agency like the Forest Service when each forest has employees with different responsibilities? Probably the Park Service as well. Surely they cannot RIF all the employees assigned to one park or one forest. Would doge just rif every biologist or ecologist or trail maintenance employee across the Forest Service?

It easy if you don't care how the system works and want it to fall into ruin to be swept up by private equity or just eliminated entirely.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How are offices defined for RIFs? Still confused about this.

Pretty much the whole group under one supervisor. Different agencies probably have different names, but it can be any functional group.

How would that work in an agency like the Forest Service when each forest has employees with different responsibilities? Probably the Park Service as well. Surely they cannot RIF all the employees assigned to one park or one forest. Would doge just rif every biologist or ecologist or trail maintenance employee across the Forest Service?

It easy if you don't care how the system works and want it to fall into ruin to be swept up by private equity or just eliminated entirely.

This. The new pilots of each agency were installed with instructions to crash their planes.

[Anonymous]

What about Veterans? I thought they were protected during RIFs.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:What about Veterans? I thought they were protected during RIFs.

Oh, you thought the Trump administration was going to follow law and order? What on Earth gave you that idea?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Oh, and usually they show up the week before and start harassing the staff that may be on the potential upcoming RIF list.

At my dhs agency that included asking people what job functions they had if they went outside to have lunch or walk during lunch; also patrolling the halls near offices to see if someone left a computer logged in while they when to the bathroom. Things like that.

Are they boys in suits? Do they have special badges? I'd be weirded out if someone approached me expecting I would know who they are...

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I work at VHA. My boss took the fork and now I am the only person at the facility who does my function. Will this help me at all? Otherwise I have nothing going for me…not involved directly in patient care, not a Veteran, still conditional.

They don’t care if your job gets done even if it’s critical to save lives.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:What about Veterans? I thought they were protected during RIFs.

Nope

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:What about Veterans? I thought they were protected during RIFs.

Did you not hear one of their PR persons say, "maybe they needed to be laid off"? Anyhow, as mentioned above, they have wiping out entire offices so there is no need to protect any class of hiring authority.

[Anonymous]

At USDA people are finding that there's no severance if you decline the "reasonable offer" of the deferred resignation program.

https://www.reddit.com/r/fednews/comments/1jpy5wy/usda_no_severance_for_rifs_if_decline_reasonable/

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:At USDA people are finding that there's no severance if you decline the "reasonable offer" of the deferred resignation program.

https://www.reddit.com/r/fednews/comments/1jpy5wy/usda_no_severance_for_rifs_if_decline_reasonable/

That makes no sense at all because the "offer" has a predefined end date so it's not really a "reasonable offer" under the RIF rules.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:At USDA people are finding that there's no severance if you decline the "reasonable offer" of the deferred resignation program.

https://www.reddit.com/r/fednews/comments/1jpy5wy/usda_no_severance_for_rifs_if_decline_reasonable/

That makes no sense at all because the "offer" has a predefined end date so it's not really a "reasonable offer" under the RIF rules.

Yes, just another way they're not following the RIF rules. Or any rules at all. But it's just smash and grab and this whole thing will be so incredibly difficult/impossible to figure out in the courts.

[Anonymous]

By the offices that are outlined in project 2025

Simple as that