Yes, really. University grads outnumber LAC grads by over 30 to 1. Come back when you haven’t cherry picked one and/or understand basic statistical reasoning. |
MacAlester College in Minnesota has one of the highest rates of students getting NSF grants for grad school based on the research they do with professors there. That's a good indicator of the strength of their mentoring students to do research and publish in the sciences as undergrads. |
+1, this is an underrated comment. Top lacs are nowhere near top research universities in producing students at that level of academic excellence, partially because they don't attract those kinds of students. Being in a lecture hall with 80+ students doesn't bother the type of undergrad who's going into graduate courses after their freshman year. It's not uncommon to see LAC grads in top chemistry, bio, and neuroscience grad programs, but math is not like that; there are more Oxford students currently attending Princeton for a Phd in Math than any liberal arts college. |
The rate is higher for university grads to lac grads via the Princeton website. Maybe you should check. |
Look them up. You can find anyone, welcome to the modern world where we have LinkedIn and university announcement pages. |
This makes no sense. You'd probably do better in English if you wrote better. |
The lack of breadth across research fields amongst the faculty does seem limiting in some subjects. |
That's no different at the English departments of any US research university. That's all these clowns talk about all day. That's why people are making fun of English majors. Oh the humanities! (Sheldon Cooper) |
You might just need to read closely? Those sentences are fine. |
If you want to do research, go to where the research actually happens. LACs are great for certain subjects where they aren't expected grad coursework or sophisticated research. Mathematics grad school will expect graduate-level courses completed before you finish undergrad |
A family member works in a top 5 worldwide school for STEM in a position where the topic of undergrad study of prof children comes up often. The topic 3 destinations amongst that group’s children are LACs. |
And this is relevant to OP's complaints about physics and...history? English? OP can't really remember...at a supposed real-world LAC that is definitely not a figment of his imagination. When you start a new thread about math students who dream of doing a Ph.D. at Princeton, then perhaps we can advise on where they should go for undergrad. |
Math is fairly unique in that practically all students who get into top PhD programs have been taking graduate courses since their freshman year. Most other fields are not like this. LAC students still go to top math PhD programs, but not the tippy top. |
That's cool and all, but what do the children do? |
Physics is very similar-not in terms of graduate study, but you need very strong research and access to a few grad level math courses if you want to get into a top program, especially for theoretical. This is easier to achieve a top research university. |