Morocco?

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Anonymous wrote:Don't know why I get such bad looks when I tell people I went there, asking me if its ``safe''? Is that code for enough white people

I don't know what they're talking about specifically, but I've lived all over the world and Morocco was where I experienced the most intense and aggressive sexual harassment of my life. Just next level threatening and it didn't feel safe. I was in my 20s though, I'm sure it's different if you're in a family vacation.

How is that behavior allowed in a majority Muslim country?

Sometimes it is the tourists who refuse to dress by cultural norms and at other times they refuse to behave by cultural norms
Dress similarly to other women and try to blend in
Don’t behave in public in a way that a local woman never would

Oh, make sure all food that you consume is served hot. The markets where food is sold doesn’t always have refrigeration

Get one of those steripens that reí sells to sterilize water, or a water bottle with a filter straw

Wow blame women much?

For the record I didn’t experience sexual harassment at all in Morocco and neither did my teen daughter. And we were there for 12 days.

But I don’t like the idea that somehow if a person did, it’s her that is the problem!

In a land, you need to follow the ways of the land.
Just like visiting someone’s house, follow the ways of the house

Of course, but women aren’t to blame for harassment. Period. And plenty of women in Morocco are traveling as singles in western clothing without a head scarf and knee length skirts etc. It’s not Saudi Arabia!

[Anonymous]

Did Morocco and it was a great trip!

Few favorite highlights include:

Camel riding in dessert
Glamorous and delicious lunch set up in the dessert with rugs, chairs, tables, tents
Visiting with nomad family in the dessert
Seeing service at mosque in square in Marrakesh with dozens of participants spilling outside
Markets of Marrakesh

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Gross 3rd world country. Oh and they HATE gays, women and beat animals. They will also chase you and try to sell you ANYTHING

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My fave place to travel to.

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Brits and French are buying up houses there.

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Anonymous wrote:Don't know why I get such bad looks when I tell people I went there, asking me if its ``safe''? Is that code for enough white people

I don't know what they're talking about specifically, but I've lived all over the world and Morocco was where I experienced the most intense and aggressive sexual harassment of my life. Just next level threatening and it didn't feel safe. I was in my 20s though, I'm sure it's different if you're in a family vacation.

How is that behavior allowed in a majority Muslim country?

Sometimes it is the tourists who refuse to dress by cultural norms and at other times they refuse to behave by cultural norms
Dress similarly to other women and try to blend in
Don’t behave in public in a way that a local woman never would

Oh, make sure all food that you consume is served hot. The markets where food is sold doesn’t always have refrigeration

Get one of those steripens that reí sells to sterilize water, or a water bottle with a filter straw

Wow blame women much?

For the record I didn’t experience sexual harassment at all in Morocco and neither did my teen daughter. And we were there for 12 days.

But I don’t like the idea that somehow if a person did, it’s her that is the problem!

In a land, you need to follow the ways of the land.
Just like visiting someone’s house, follow the ways of the house

+1

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Anonymous wrote:Brits and French are buying up houses there.

Because Spain kicked them out.

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Anonymous wrote:Don't know why I get such bad looks when I tell people I went there, asking me if its ``safe''? Is that code for enough white people

I don't know what they're talking about specifically, but I've lived all over the world and Morocco was where I experienced the most intense and aggressive sexual harassment of my life. Just next level threatening and it didn't feel safe. I was in my 20s though, I'm sure it's different if you're in a family vacation.

I've avoided Morocco because of how I was treated by Moroccan men in France when I studied abroad there. Incredibly aggressive harassment of women. They stalked and raped my friend in student housing. Just awful.

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Anonymous wrote:Don't know why I get such bad looks when I tell people I went there, asking me if its ``safe''? Is that code for enough white people

I don't know what they're talking about specifically, but I've lived all over the world and Morocco was where I experienced the most intense and aggressive sexual harassment of my life. Just next level threatening and it didn't feel safe. I was in my 20s though, I'm sure it's different if you're in a family vacation.

I've avoided Morocco because of how I was treated by Moroccan men in France when I studied abroad there. Incredibly aggressive harassment of women. They stalked and raped my friend in student housing. Just awful.

I’m so sorry that happened to you!

As someone who visited Morocco recently though, I didn’t have that problem at all, at least in the tourist areas where we traveled. Personally I would only do a desert excursion with a reputable guide company since that’s more off the beaten track.

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Anonymous wrote:Brits and French are buying up houses there.

This. There are so many French people retiring to Morocco. I guess European retirees like “third world” places like PP mentioned

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Anonymous wrote:Brits and French are buying up houses there.

This. There are so many French people retiring to Morocco. I guess European retirees like “third world” places like PP mentioned

Morocco is a great mixture of Europe and Africa. It’s also close to europe and cheaper. I’m not surprised.

Lastly, have you even been? Nothing 3rd world in the big cities like Marrakesh.

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Anonymous wrote:Don't know why I get such bad looks when I tell people I went there, asking me if its ``safe''? Is that code for enough white people

I don't know what they're talking about specifically, but I've lived all over the world and Morocco was where I experienced the most intense and aggressive sexual harassment of my life. Just next level threatening and it didn't feel safe. I was in my 20s though, I'm sure it's different if you're in a family vacation.

How is that behavior allowed in a majority Muslim country?

NP here. I lived in a "majority Muslim country" for a few years for work. It was the most dangerous place for women I have ever seen in my life, and I have lived in various countries around the world. Even in the "posh" area where we lived, female servants (aka slaves) were routinely raped/killed, women were regularly beaten, raped, and honor-killed). According to sharia law, if the victim's family "forgives" the perpetrator, charges are dropped. The misogyny and corruption in this patriarchal "majority Muslim" country adds up to something very dark for women. And while women are blamed for how they dress, act, look to tempt men, men/boys are just not held to any comparable standards of behavior.

I've also lived in Dubai, which many mention as a more "evolved" version of the ideology. They do a great job of keeping things sanitary on the surface so that the wealthy expats who keep the place running stay happy. But that same darkness and misogyny is there if you look beneath the surface. It is no coincidence that the ruler of Dubai's wife and several daughters tried to flee from him (google it).

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Gross 3rd world country. Oh and they HATE gays, women and beat animals. They will also chase you and try to sell you ANYTHING

Yes. Did you know that Matthew Shepard was gang-raped in Morocco while on a high school trip there?

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Gross 3rd world country. Oh and they HATE gays, women and beat animals. They will also chase you and try to sell you ANYTHING

Yes. Did you know that Matthew Shepard was gang-raped in Morocco while on a high school trip there?

Your only point is that Morocco is a brutal country. Homosexuality is illegal in Morocco, look it up.

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Gross 3rd world country. Oh and they HATE gays, women and beat animals. They will also chase you and try to sell you ANYTHING

Yes. Did you know that Matthew Shepard was gang-raped in Morocco while on a high school trip there?

He was also tortured and beaten to death in the good ole USA. So there’s that.