Traveling abroad/burner phones?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It's more expensive and less convenient than simply exercising some personal restraint. The world isn't waiting for her political posts while she's abroad, or anywhere, really. And, telecommunications are more likely to be intercepted and reviewed by the internal security services within the borders of many other countries, than they are at the borders of the U.S.

It's a silly solution to an entirely avoidable concern.

Friend works for crey large company with business in China. Company policy is burner phones only when going there. The concern is not social media. It's giving an easy path through corporate IT infrastructure.

At the US border, even if you have never posted anything on social media, they can go through your phone or computer legally. Ever sent a text saying you hate Trump, and it's on your phone? Good luck nowadays if you aren't a US citizen or aren't white. Not saying these are likely scenarios , but they are possible (with examples) in a way they weren't 3 months ago.

Business travel is completely different. Companies need to protect their intellectual property and other proprietary information, so limiting the character of personal electronics which might provide such data is simply good business sense. Nobody needs to post political screeds from their personal devices, though, and simply not doing that eliminates the issue altogether.

Yes, which is why each scenario was discussed separately. As a white US citizen.who doesn't travel to China, I think my risk is low. If I was say a Turkish Fulbright scholar in grad school in the Boston area, seems like the concern is valid.

You sure about that?
Seems like they give you a hotel stay and then figure out if they are right.

I think you will worry more when they come after the supporters of Ukraine.

Oh am under no illusions about what they may eventually try and do. I am pretty sure they have neither the manpower nor the competence to pull it off at scale. But can do a hell of a lot of damage in the meantime before their petty childish autocracy collapses.

[Anonymous]

This thread is so sad. You should blame authoritarian fascists rather than people expressing their opinions.

[Anonymous]

wired had a good guide to this. Crazy that we have to think like this.
https://www.wired.com/2017/02/guide-getting-past-customs-digital-privacy-intact/

[Anonymous]

Is it enough to delete all social media, WhatsApp, Signal, etc when coming back?

[Anonymous]

I always travel with the BLU Jenny phone because no matter what I’ve done I sometimes have trouble making calls or texting with my iPhone abroad. Buy it at Walmart and get the right service for wherever you’re going. It has been reliable for me all over Africa and every part of Europe. Nothing to do with politics—it’s just good travel sense. BTW—I was given this advice about 10 years ago by someone at Apple.

[Anonymous]

I plan to do that next time I leave the country.

[Anonymous]

Thanks to 15:14 for the link to the Wired article. That was interesting.

But CAN YOU EVEN BELIEVE WE HAVE TO CONSIDER THIS NOW?!?!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's more expensive and less convenient than simply exercising some personal restraint. The world isn't waiting for her political posts while she's abroad, or anywhere, really. And, telecommunications are more likely to be intercepted and reviewed by the internal security services within the borders of many other countries, than they are at the borders of the U.S.

It's a silly solution to an entirely avoidable concern.

Friend works for crey large company with business in China. Company policy is burner phones only when going there. The concern is not social media. It's giving an easy path through corporate IT infrastructure.

At the US border, even if you have never posted anything on social media, they can go through your phone or computer legally. Ever sent a text saying you hate Trump, and it's on your phone? Good luck nowadays if you aren't a US citizen or aren't white. Not saying these are likely scenarios , but they are possible (with examples) in a way they weren't 3 months ago.

Business travel is completely different. Companies need to protect their intellectual property and other proprietary information, so limiting the character of personal electronics which might provide such data is simply good business sense. Nobody needs to post political screeds from their personal devices, though, and simply not doing that eliminates the issue altogether.

Yeah, don't have any opinions about dumb government. /s


It's still "of the people, by the people, for the people."

Enjoy detention that was totally avoidable, Sophie!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's more expensive and less convenient than simply exercising some personal restraint. The world isn't waiting for her political posts while she's abroad, or anywhere, really. And, telecommunications are more likely to be intercepted and reviewed by the internal security services within the borders of many other countries, than they are at the borders of the U.S.

It's a silly solution to an entirely avoidable concern.

Friend works for crey large company with business in China. Company policy is burner phones only when going there. The concern is not social media. It's giving an easy path through corporate IT infrastructure.

At the US border, even if you have never posted anything on social media, they can go through your phone or computer legally. Ever sent a text saying you hate Trump, and it's on your phone? Good luck nowadays if you aren't a US citizen or aren't white. Not saying these are likely scenarios , but they are possible (with examples) in a way they weren't 3 months ago.

Business travel is completely different. Companies need to protect their intellectual property and other proprietary information, so limiting the character of personal electronics which might provide such data is simply good business sense. Nobody needs to post political screeds from their personal devices, though, and simply not doing that eliminates the issue altogether.

Yeah, don't have any opinions about dumb government. /s


It's still "of the people, by the people, for the people."

Having opinions is one thing, broadcasting them is just asking for trouble, one way or anyother.

Are you writing from Belarus?

Are you writing from your tent in the quad of SJP University?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's more expensive and less convenient than simply exercising some personal restraint. The world isn't waiting for her political posts while she's abroad, or anywhere, really. And, telecommunications are more likely to be intercepted and reviewed by the internal security services within the borders of many other countries, than they are at the borders of the U.S.

It's a silly solution to an entirely avoidable concern.

Friend works for crey large company with business in China. Company policy is burner phones only when going there. The concern is not social media. It's giving an easy path through corporate IT infrastructure.

At the US border, even if you have never posted anything on social media, they can go through your phone or computer legally. Ever sent a text saying you hate Trump, and it's on your phone? Good luck nowadays if you aren't a US citizen or aren't white. Not saying these are likely scenarios , but they are possible (with examples) in a way they weren't 3 months ago.

Business travel is completely different. Companies need to protect their intellectual property and other proprietary information, so limiting the character of personal electronics which might provide such data is simply good business sense. Nobody needs to post political screeds from their personal devices, though, and simply not doing that eliminates the issue altogether.

Yeah, don't have any opinions about dumb government. /s


It's still "of the people, by the people, for the people."

Having opinions is one thing, broadcasting them is just asking for trouble, one way or anyother.

Are you writing from Belarus?

Are you writing from your tent in the quad of SJP University?

Man, you zionists suck!

Just because you have the cheeto doesn't mean the rest of us in the country have to let you rewrite the code of this country.

There was no "mandate" for that.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's more expensive and less convenient than simply exercising some personal restraint. The world isn't waiting for her political posts while she's abroad, or anywhere, really. And, telecommunications are more likely to be intercepted and reviewed by the internal security services within the borders of many other countries, than they are at the borders of the U.S.

It's a silly solution to an entirely avoidable concern.

Friend works for crey large company with business in China. Company policy is burner phones only when going there. The concern is not social media. It's giving an easy path through corporate IT infrastructure.

At the US border, even if you have never posted anything on social media, they can go through your phone or computer legally. Ever sent a text saying you hate Trump, and it's on your phone? Good luck nowadays if you aren't a US citizen or aren't white. Not saying these are likely scenarios , but they are possible (with examples) in a way they weren't 3 months ago.

Business travel is completely different. Companies need to protect their intellectual property and other proprietary information, so limiting the character of personal electronics which might provide such data is simply good business sense. Nobody needs to post political screeds from their personal devices, though, and simply not doing that eliminates the issue altogether.

Yeah, don't have any opinions about dumb government. /s


It's still "of the people, by the people, for the people."

Enjoy detention that was totally avoidable, Sophie!

Cool burn

I'm sure Sophie means something to you

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's more expensive and less convenient than simply exercising some personal restraint. The world isn't waiting for her political posts while she's abroad, or anywhere, really. And, telecommunications are more likely to be intercepted and reviewed by the internal security services within the borders of many other countries, than they are at the borders of the U.S.

It's a silly solution to an entirely avoidable concern.

Friend works for crey large company with business in China. Company policy is burner phones only when going there. The concern is not social media. It's giving an easy path through corporate IT infrastructure.

At the US border, even if you have never posted anything on social media, they can go through your phone or computer legally. Ever sent a text saying you hate Trump, and it's on your phone? Good luck nowadays if you aren't a US citizen or aren't white. Not saying these are likely scenarios , but they are possible (with examples) in a way they weren't 3 months ago.

Business travel is completely different. Companies need to protect their intellectual property and other proprietary information, so limiting the character of personal electronics which might provide such data is simply good business sense. Nobody needs to post political screeds from their personal devices, though, and simply not doing that eliminates the issue altogether.

Yeah, don't have any opinions about dumb government. /s


It's still "of the people, by the people, for the people."

Enjoy detention that was totally avoidable, Sophie!

Cool burn

I'm sure Sophie means something to you

Not PP who wrote that, but I think it might be a reference to Sophie Schell, which is disturbing if true.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's more expensive and less convenient than simply exercising some personal restraint. The world isn't waiting for her political posts while she's abroad, or anywhere, really. And, telecommunications are more likely to be intercepted and reviewed by the internal security services within the borders of many other countries, than they are at the borders of the U.S.

It's a silly solution to an entirely avoidable concern.

Friend works for crey large company with business in China. Company policy is burner phones only when going there. The concern is not social media. It's giving an easy path through corporate IT infrastructure.

At the US border, even if you have never posted anything on social media, they can go through your phone or computer legally. Ever sent a text saying you hate Trump, and it's on your phone? Good luck nowadays if you aren't a US citizen or aren't white. Not saying these are likely scenarios , but they are possible (with examples) in a way they weren't 3 months ago.

Business travel is completely different. Companies need to protect their intellectual property and other proprietary information, so limiting the character of personal electronics which might provide such data is simply good business sense. Nobody needs to post political screeds from their personal devices, though, and simply not doing that eliminates the issue altogether.

Yeah, don't have any opinions about dumb government. /s


It's still "of the people, by the people, for the people."

Enjoy detention that was totally avoidable, Sophie!

Cool burn

I'm sure Sophie means something to you

Not PP who wrote that, but I think it might be a reference to Sophie Schell, which is disturbing if true.

How is it that you knew that?