NYU Shanghai

[Anonymous]

My child’s friend is at NYU Shanghai. I thought she would hate it, but she seems really happy (perhaps too happy, my child reports that she parties a lot and her grades have suffered). She will spend one year at another NYU location (I think the choices are NY, Dubai and LA, but I could be mistaken).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:What major? How would it play out when looking for a job or grad school?

Teaching style is massively different. That’s not bad, just different. I don’t believe that foreign students are fully mainstreamed but there would be a lot of other foreign students.

The student would have to be flexible and go with the flow. Lots more rules to follow.

NP- I agree with this. (I studied in China for a year)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Far removed from typicaL college experience. We looked at duke Kushan, nyu Shanghai, etc. Easier admission with the right profile, but after our research, not the right decision. Teaching style, school culture very different. If that region/language is of interest, there are better programs here in the US.

Better Chinese programs in the US?

Np

Check out cornell caps program, Indiana lugar school Chinese flagship, georgetown sfs. Many US universities have strong Asian studies/Chinese language programs with abroad/internship programs.

[Anonymous]

I have a client who went there. It is very diverse with lots of students from many countries. You do get to spend a year at another campus like NYC.

It is very small though. It is more like a liberal arts college. Some kids don't understand there you cannot really smoke pot and do illegal drugs and not get punished. Under the current political situation, I feel it is pretty risky with not being able to predict relations between the US and China.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:trashy school where your kid is going to end up censored and struggling to return to the US.

There was a time when foreigners might come to the U.S. to avoid censorship. That time, however, has passed: https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/rumeysa-ozturk-tufts-university-ice-arrest-b2722397.html

+1 At the rate Trump is moving to quash dissent, your kid is going to end up censored in the USA too, and with a far worse science education and research opportunities.

[Anonymous]

I'm pretty sure with all the stuff going on in the U.S. that Shanghai might be a better city to study in.

Sure, they ban most websites you are familar with like google, facebook, x, BBC, NY Times, WSJ, etc. While it is illegal to use a VPN you get used to state approved internet. But if you say want to protest at NYU Shanghai in favor of the Uyghurs and take over a building the police will let you protest. They're pretty liberal with free speech.

You can definitely march around with a Taiwanese flag and chant anti-Chinese slogans without raising too much of a fuss.

The best part is the yuan is weak right now so your dollar will go a long way.

Good luck!

[Anonymous]

My friend kid got into nyu Shanghai...not going to take it...it's not the same prestige as nyu

[Anonymous]

Fun but not rigorous

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Far removed from typicaL college experience. We looked at duke Kushan, nyu Shanghai, etc. Easier admission with the right profile, but after our research, not the right decision. Teaching style, school culture very different. If that region/language is of interest, there are better programs here in the US.

Better Chinese programs in the US?

Np

Stanford, Princeton, and Middlebury (summer immersion) are all top Chinese language programs.

[Anonymous]

There is zero chance my DC would attend any school in China, on safety grounds. Foreigners are particularly likely to suffer from arbitrary detention. To even leave China, a student would need to get an Exit Visa from the PRC government. No way.

[Anonymous]

Not sure where the comments about different teaching style come from - the vast majority of the professors are drawn from the US and western universities, and the commitment from the university is to provide a U.S.-style liberal arts education to all students. Students spend 3 years in Shanghai, and two semesters abroad at another NYU campus or study-away program (New York is most popular, but there's also Abu Dhabi and a dozen other cities around the world). NYU Shanghai is definitely not for everyone - it's best for adventurous, open-minded kids who want to challenge/immerse themselves in both a Chinese and international cultural environment and in an amazing city. At the same time, western students there can also easily live in an expat bubble - they have access to a very stable/powerful VPN that gives them full access to western websites - NYTimes, Instagram, Google, etc; socialize only with western classmates, etc. There is a bit of a divide between the Chinese and western students - the Chinese kids study a lot harder and party less, making the curves in some of the classes the Chinese kids prefer (Math, Comp Sci, sciences) a bit tough. And yes, you can't smoke pot or touch any other drugs while there - the Chinese will kick you out.

[Anonymous]

We need (many, many) more Americans fluent in Chinese. If my kid had that as a goal I would definitely support it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Great opportunity for the right kid or just to far removed from the typical college experience?

Really is a question of how much one is willing to grow at this stage of his/her young life.

Need to be willing, able, and dedicated to learning Mandarin Chinese.

Should be a mature & independent individual.

If you are afraid, then don't go. If confident and open-minded, then this should be a great opportunity.

Many decades ago, I studied abroad frequently including a semester on mainland China (Yale in China program). Loved it. Also studied in the Soviet Union and also loved that experience. Studied in Eastern Europe on both sides of the Iron Curtain and thoroughly enjoyed my time there.