Cannabinoid hyperemesis syndrome

[Anonymous]

When treating the symptoms of this hyperemesis syndrome, how do you treat the nausea so the patient can take in nourishment- does phenergan or zofran work for that or is this nausea resistant to that approach?

[Anonymous]

Op here. It seems like the only cure is quitting. Unfortunately she does not seem motivated to stop at all!!!

Husband wants a divorce. She still won’t quit.

[Anonymous]

It is sad to watch. She has lost weight. She told me she feels a lot of stress when thinking about food. She is scared she is gonna vomit. Even going to restaurants takes planning because she has to smoke first.

I don’t get why she won’t stop. I would like to help her but I don’t think I can. I am actually getting mad at her thinking about it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It is sad to watch. She has lost weight. She told me she feels a lot of stress when thinking about food. She is scared she is gonna vomit. Even going to restaurants takes planning because she has to smoke first.

I don’t get why she won’t stop. I would like to help her but I don’t think I can. I am actually getting mad at her thinking about it.

Sounds like she needs to go into a rehab facility where they can wean her off in a supervised way or put her on some type of medication. Just like how alcoholics can’t quit cold turkey or they can’t function at all.

Drugs are bad, kids!

[Anonymous]

She's a pot head who needs to quit for her own health, but would rather come up with some bizarre medical excuse why she just "has" to keep smoking pot. She sounds insufferable.

[Anonymous]

I believe this syndrome has been mentioned on this site before. I asked my physician DS and he told me he sees this regularly in his hospital setting. Sadly, the patient believes they must continue the pot smoking in order to eat.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:MD. Yes her friend is “BSing” her, but a more useful way of looking at it is that addicts will justify their use any way they need to.

Here is a graph of THC potency in samples seized by the DEA from the 90’s through the 2020’s:

https://nida.nih.gov/sites/default/files/images/cannabis-potency-chart.jpg

It’s gone up by 400%. Today’s weed is a pharmaceutical grade hallucinogen. Linked to early onset Alzheimer’s, colon cancer, and early death. Not to mention it basically turns you into an uninteresting lump, often in middle age, when you still have kids to launch and bills to pay. The poster from “my BF smokes weed everyday” is advised to pay attention.

Like I tell my patient, I’m not anti-weed. I’m anti “check out of life”. That’s what today’s weed does.

Oh goody, another arrogant "MD" (allegedly... on the anon forum...)

It's not BS. It's a legitimate symptom of withdrawal, same as the "brain zaps" that come from discontinuing anti-depressants, or the hell that is opiate withdrawal, or the DTs from stopping alcohol...

I'm not anti-doctor. I'm anti-condescending ignorant power-tripper. You need to educate yourself about what your patients who are detoxing from cannabis are going through, how long that process actually takes, and what can be done to help them. Otherwise, you're not going to be able to give them supportive care, and you're probably going to say some ignorant nonsense like what you posted here. It's easy to say clinical stuff like "stop smoking" or "lose weight". If it were equally easy to simply snap one's fingers and do these things, you'd have nothing to say.

MD from above. What on earth? Are you actually trying to explain CHS to me? We’ve been treating this for years, daily. I can write the up-to-date entry on it at this point, which is no victory. It’s a horrific illness. Only Haldol or Droperidol works. And it’s only been worsened by the for-profit cannabis industry. Regardless, my points stands, OP’s friend need help, and yes, you are anti-Dr. For what it’s worth, in my experience, people like you are deeply insecure individuals. Either that, or you’re a very triggered daily smoker. Get some help for that.

Wrong on both counts AND wrong on what works, even. I doubt you're actually an MD, especially one who has been "treating this for years, daily" because, if you were, you'd know better. But you definitely have the arrogance and judgmental attitude of a whitecoat, so there's that.

-long-recovered former addict, H&I volunteer

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It is sad to watch. She has lost weight. She told me she feels a lot of stress when thinking about food. She is scared she is gonna vomit. Even going to restaurants takes planning because she has to smoke first.

I don’t get why she won’t stop. I would like to help her but I don’t think I can. I am actually getting mad at her thinking about it.

Because our culture has a very "it's just weed" attitude about cannabis, she may not know that it's actually the weed making her sick. Of course, if/when she realizes it is, she's got the long road of recovery ahead. It took me about 2 months just to pee clean after quitting a daily use habit, and the gut pain, nausea and night sweats in the beginning were worse than withdrawing from oxy (chronic pain patient here; was prescribed cannabis because it's "not as bad as opiates" which is a scam and half!).

Since she's still in the "I'll feel better if I smoke" phase, zofran will likely help with the nausea. Capsaicin cream and supplements will help with the other withdrawal symptoms, as can hot showers and heating packs. The worse of it will likely be gone in 2 weeks; it may be a rough two weeks.

Get her around other addicts so she can listen to what we've been through. She may have an easier time realize what's going on when she learns she's not alone in it. The medical community is WAY behind when it comes to what this is and what it takes to get through it, and they tend to have a very condescending "you shouldn't have used drugs" attitude about it, which isn't helpful. Fellow recovering addicts will be much better support: https://marijuana-anonymous.org/find-a-meeting/ (meetings are online almost round-the-clock; join any meeting at any time)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It is sad to watch. She has lost weight. She told me she feels a lot of stress when thinking about food. She is scared she is gonna vomit. Even going to restaurants takes planning because she has to smoke first.

I don’t get why she won’t stop. I would like to help her but I don’t think I can. I am actually getting mad at her thinking about it.

Because our culture has a very "it's just weed" attitude about cannabis, she may not know that it's actually the weed making her sick. Of course, if/when she realizes it is, she's got the long road of recovery ahead. It took me about 2 months just to pee clean after quitting a daily use habit, and the gut pain, nausea and night sweats in the beginning were worse than withdrawing from oxy (chronic pain patient here; was prescribed cannabis because it's "not as bad as opiates" which is a scam and half!).

Since she's still in the "I'll feel better if I smoke" phase, zofran will likely help with the nausea. Capsaicin cream and supplements will help with the other withdrawal symptoms, as can hot showers and heating packs. The worse of it will likely be gone in 2 weeks; it may be a rough two weeks.

Get her around other addicts so she can listen to what we've been through. She may have an easier time realize what's going on when she learns she's not alone in it. The medical community is WAY behind when it comes to what this is and what it takes to get through it, and they tend to have a very condescending "you shouldn't have used drugs" attitude about it, which isn't helpful. Fellow recovering addicts will be much better support: https://marijuana-anonymous.org/find-a-meeting/ (meetings are online almost round-the-clock; join any meeting at any time)

Right. There are a number of people with a strong emotional commitment to the idea that it cannot be addictive because it is "natural," or "just weed," or the like. But physical dependence does occur, and so does psychological dependence. Sometimes people keep using despite increasing negative consequences, such as CHS.

All the scare tactics and lies about marijuana from prior decades didn't help. When it didn't cause "reefer madness" in your teenage friends, you were less likely to believe anything negative about it.

However, the truth is more complicated. A lot of people have used it casually without consequences. A lot of people have bene harmed by it. There is no completely reliable way to know where you or anyone else will fall on that spectrum.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It is sad to watch. She has lost weight. She told me she feels a lot of stress when thinking about food. She is scared she is gonna vomit. Even going to restaurants takes planning because she has to smoke first.

I don’t get why she won’t stop. I would like to help her but I don’t think I can. I am actually getting mad at her thinking about it.

Because our culture has a very "it's just weed" attitude about cannabis, she may not know that it's actually the weed making her sick. Of course, if/when she realizes it is, she's got the long road of recovery ahead. It took me about 2 months just to pee clean after quitting a daily use habit, and the gut pain, nausea and night sweats in the beginning were worse than withdrawing from oxy (chronic pain patient here; was prescribed cannabis because it's "not as bad as opiates" which is a scam and half!).

Since she's still in the "I'll feel better if I smoke" phase, zofran will likely help with the nausea. Capsaicin cream and supplements will help with the other withdrawal symptoms, as can hot showers and heating packs. The worse of it will likely be gone in 2 weeks; it may be a rough two weeks.

Get her around other addicts so she can listen to what we've been through. She may have an easier time realize what's going on when she learns she's not alone in it. The medical community is WAY behind when it comes to what this is and what it takes to get through it, and they tend to have a very condescending "you shouldn't have used drugs" attitude about it, which isn't helpful. Fellow recovering addicts will be much better support: https://marijuana-anonymous.org/find-a-meeting/ (meetings are online almost round-the-clock; join any meeting at any time)

Right. There are a number of people with a strong emotional commitment to the idea that it cannot be addictive because it is "natural," or "just weed," or the like. But physical dependence does occur, and so does psychological dependence. Sometimes people keep using despite increasing negative consequences, such as CHS.

All the scare tactics and lies about marijuana from prior decades didn't help. When it didn't cause "reefer madness" in your teenage friends, you were less likely to believe anything negative about it.

However, the truth is more complicated. A lot of people have used it casually without consequences. A lot of people have bene harmed by it. There is no completely reliable way to know where you or anyone else will fall on that spectrum.

The issue is that current THC products are 10x more potent than what teenagers were smoking decades ago at rock festivals.

My son is a former pro athlete, Presidential scholarship nominee for top ACT in our state.

He became THC addicted during his freshman year in college . Went from 185 lbs to 150 lbs in less than 6 months. He can’t eat without smoking it, unable to focus at exams. He’s unable to function just sleeping whole day and stopped socializing.

Family is pulling him out from college to place into rehab

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It is sad to watch. She has lost weight. She told me she feels a lot of stress when thinking about food. She is scared she is gonna vomit. Even going to restaurants takes planning because she has to smoke first.

I don’t get why she won’t stop. I would like to help her but I don’t think I can. I am actually getting mad at her thinking about it.

Because our culture has a very "it's just weed" attitude about cannabis, she may not know that it's actually the weed making her sick. Of course, if/when she realizes it is, she's got the long road of recovery ahead. It took me about 2 months just to pee clean after quitting a daily use habit, and the gut pain, nausea and night sweats in the beginning were worse than withdrawing from oxy (chronic pain patient here; was prescribed cannabis because it's "not as bad as opiates" which is a scam and half!).

Since she's still in the "I'll feel better if I smoke" phase, zofran will likely help with the nausea. Capsaicin cream and supplements will help with the other withdrawal symptoms, as can hot showers and heating packs. The worse of it will likely be gone in 2 weeks; it may be a rough two weeks.

Get her around other addicts so she can listen to what we've been through. She may have an easier time realize what's going on when she learns she's not alone in it. The medical community is WAY behind when it comes to what this is and what it takes to get through it, and they tend to have a very condescending "you shouldn't have used drugs" attitude about it, which isn't helpful. Fellow recovering addicts will be much better support: https://marijuana-anonymous.org/find-a-meeting/ (meetings are online almost round-the-clock; join any meeting at any time)

Right. There are a number of people with a strong emotional commitment to the idea that it cannot be addictive because it is "natural," or "just weed," or the like. But physical dependence does occur, and so does psychological dependence. Sometimes people keep using despite increasing negative consequences, such as CHS.

All the scare tactics and lies about marijuana from prior decades didn't help. When it didn't cause "reefer madness" in your teenage friends, you were less likely to believe anything negative about it.

However, the truth is more complicated. A lot of people have used it casually without consequences. A lot of people have bene harmed by it. There is no completely reliable way to know where you or anyone else will fall on that spectrum.

The issue is that current THC products are 10x more potent than what teenagers were smoking decades ago at rock festivals.

My son is a former pro athlete, Presidential scholarship nominee for top ACT in our state.

He became THC addicted during his freshman year in college . Went from 185 lbs to 150 lbs in less than 6 months. He can’t eat without smoking it, unable to focus at exams. He’s unable to function just sleeping whole day and stopped socializing.

Family is pulling him out from college to place into rehab

Are you under the impression that non-addictive things suddenly become addictive at higher doses?

[Anonymous]

My niece had this and it was horrific. I posted on here about it a few months ago. She got down to under 80 lbs, and I truly think we nearly lost her. She’s finally on the other side but it was awful. I wonder what kind of long term damage it has done to her heart and other organs.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It is sad to watch. She has lost weight. She told me she feels a lot of stress when thinking about food. She is scared she is gonna vomit. Even going to restaurants takes planning because she has to smoke first.

I don’t get why she won’t stop. I would like to help her but I don’t think I can. I am actually getting mad at her thinking about it.

Because our culture has a very "it's just weed" attitude about cannabis, she may not know that it's actually the weed making her sick. Of course, if/when she realizes it is, she's got the long road of recovery ahead. It took me about 2 months just to pee clean after quitting a daily use habit, and the gut pain, nausea and night sweats in the beginning were worse than withdrawing from oxy (chronic pain patient here; was prescribed cannabis because it's "not as bad as opiates" which is a scam and half!).

Since she's still in the "I'll feel better if I smoke" phase, zofran will likely help with the nausea. Capsaicin cream and supplements will help with the other withdrawal symptoms, as can hot showers and heating packs. The worse of it will likely be gone in 2 weeks; it may be a rough two weeks.

Get her around other addicts so she can listen to what we've been through. She may have an easier time realize what's going on when she learns she's not alone in it. The medical community is WAY behind when it comes to what this is and what it takes to get through it, and they tend to have a very condescending "you shouldn't have used drugs" attitude about it, which isn't helpful. Fellow recovering addicts will be much better support: https://marijuana-anonymous.org/find-a-meeting/ (meetings are online almost round-the-clock; join any meeting at any time)

Right. There are a number of people with a strong emotional commitment to the idea that it cannot be addictive because it is "natural," or "just weed," or the like. But physical dependence does occur, and so does psychological dependence. Sometimes people keep using despite increasing negative consequences, such as CHS.

All the scare tactics and lies about marijuana from prior decades didn't help. When it didn't cause "reefer madness" in your teenage friends, you were less likely to believe anything negative about it.

However, the truth is more complicated. A lot of people have used it casually without consequences. A lot of people have bene harmed by it. There is no completely reliable way to know where you or anyone else will fall on that spectrum.

The issue is that current THC products are 10x more potent than what teenagers were smoking decades ago at rock festivals.

My son is a former pro athlete, Presidential scholarship nominee for top ACT in our state.

He became THC addicted during his freshman year in college . Went from 185 lbs to 150 lbs in less than 6 months. He can’t eat without smoking it, unable to focus at exams. He’s unable to function just sleeping whole day and stopped socializing.

Family is pulling him out from college to place into rehab

Are you under the impression that non-addictive things suddenly become addictive at higher doses?

Yes. It’s also not well research how highly concentrated THC affects your body

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My niece had this and it was horrific. I posted on here about it a few months ago. She got down to under 80 lbs, and I truly think we nearly lost her. She’s finally on the other side but it was awful. I wonder what kind of long term damage it has done to her heart and other organs.

CHS has been fatal in multiple cases. It's deadly serious.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It is sad to watch. She has lost weight. She told me she feels a lot of stress when thinking about food. She is scared she is gonna vomit. Even going to restaurants takes planning because she has to smoke first.

I don’t get why she won’t stop. I would like to help her but I don’t think I can. I am actually getting mad at her thinking about it.

Because our culture has a very "it's just weed" attitude about cannabis, she may not know that it's actually the weed making her sick. Of course, if/when she realizes it is, she's got the long road of recovery ahead. It took me about 2 months just to pee clean after quitting a daily use habit, and the gut pain, nausea and night sweats in the beginning were worse than withdrawing from oxy (chronic pain patient here; was prescribed cannabis because it's "not as bad as opiates" which is a scam and half!).

Since she's still in the "I'll feel better if I smoke" phase, zofran will likely help with the nausea. Capsaicin cream and supplements will help with the other withdrawal symptoms, as can hot showers and heating packs. The worse of it will likely be gone in 2 weeks; it may be a rough two weeks.

Get her around other addicts so she can listen to what we've been through. She may have an easier time realize what's going on when she learns she's not alone in it. The medical community is WAY behind when it comes to what this is and what it takes to get through it, and they tend to have a very condescending "you shouldn't have used drugs" attitude about it, which isn't helpful. Fellow recovering addicts will be much better support: https://marijuana-anonymous.org/find-a-meeting/ (meetings are online almost round-the-clock; join any meeting at any time)

Right. There are a number of people with a strong emotional commitment to the idea that it cannot be addictive because it is "natural," or "just weed," or the like. But physical dependence does occur, and so does psychological dependence. Sometimes people keep using despite increasing negative consequences, such as CHS.

All the scare tactics and lies about marijuana from prior decades didn't help. When it didn't cause "reefer madness" in your teenage friends, you were less likely to believe anything negative about it.

However, the truth is more complicated. A lot of people have used it casually without consequences. A lot of people have bene harmed by it. There is no completely reliable way to know where you or anyone else will fall on that spectrum.

The issue is that current THC products are 10x more potent than what teenagers were smoking decades ago at rock festivals.

My son is a former pro athlete, Presidential scholarship nominee for top ACT in our state.

He became THC addicted during his freshman year in college . Went from 185 lbs to 150 lbs in less than 6 months. He can’t eat without smoking it, unable to focus at exams. He’s unable to function just sleeping whole day and stopped socializing.

Family is pulling him out from college to place into rehab

Are you under the impression that non-addictive things suddenly become addictive at higher doses?

Yes. It’s also not well research how highly concentrated THC affects your body

The main risk factor in CHS isn't high THC, it's distillates and synthetics, which are commonly found in vapes and edibles. CHS from pure flower is possible, but less common