How, exactly, does Ozempic work?

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Anonymous wrote:Also, I am a foodie. New recipes and special meals are something that bring me pleasure.

Why take a drug that tamps down your enjoyment of a whole category of experiences?

Because for some of us, food and all it involves comes with a mental torture that far outweighs the enjoyment you experience. Cocaine addicts also enjoy the high, but it's not something you'd support, is it?

Addiction is addiction and food noise isn’t “normal”. Therapy helps in permanent ways miracle meds never will.

Wait, so if I just get therapy, the food noises that I’ve been battling for years will go away? Say more about that.

If you’re willing to be open and explore why you crave the dopamine hit you get from anticipating food (similar to a sex accident with sex, a gambler with gambling, a drug addict with drugs, a shopping addict with shopping…) then yes, it could potentially help you. I’m willing to bet you likely feel awful after giving in to these cravings, and like you have no control over them (like a sex addict with sex, gambler with gambling, drug addict from drugs, shopping addiction from shopping…) All addictions start with trauma.

OMG, the sanctimonious judgment is just oozing from this post. If I just had some therapy for the nonexistent trauma in my life (grew up in a healthy, stable home with parents who still love one another, in my own positive marriage raising two kids, again no trauma), then my food noises would go away! I just need some more WILLPOWER! I guess it has nothing to do with brain chemistry that is different for different people. Do you think this therapy would work on things like lowering cholesterol and blood pressure?

Taking GLP-1 has been a game changer for me. I still enjoy food, but I’m not thinking about it all the time. I can enjoy the taste and be satisfied. It’s a feeling I haven’t known in decades. I’m just much more relaxed. Yes, I attribute it to Ozempic.

There’s a lot of promise that GLP-1s can help with other addictions you mentioned. Again, it’s about brain chemistry, not just “being stronger.” Your judgment of people who are dealing with any kind of addiction is gross. Therapy is wonderful for so many people for so many reasons. To prescribe it as the truest way to deal with addiction denies the real science that acknowledges there is an actual physiological basis to some people being overweight and struggling to lose it.

It’s not a good look when you’re telling people that being overweight is unhealthy, but if you don’t work to lose the weight in the way that I think is best, then you’re also unhealthy and even worse, you’re just a damaged person because you don’t have the will power to manage this supposed trauma.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Also, I am a foodie. New recipes and special meals are something that bring me pleasure.

Why take a drug that tamps down your enjoyment of a whole category of experiences?

Because for some of us, food and all it involves comes with a mental torture that far outweighs the enjoyment you experience. Cocaine addicts also enjoy the high, but it's not something you'd support, is it?

Addiction is addiction and food noise isn’t “normal”. Therapy helps in permanent ways miracle meds never will.

Wait, so if I just get therapy, the food noises that I’ve been battling for years will go away? Say more about that.

If you’re willing to be open and explore why you crave the dopamine hit you get from anticipating food (similar to a sex accident with sex, a gambler with gambling, a drug addict with drugs, a shopping addict with shopping…) then yes, it could potentially help you. I’m willing to bet you likely feel awful after giving in to these cravings, and like you have no control over them (like a sex addict with sex, gambler with gambling, drug addict from drugs, shopping addiction from shopping…) All addictions start with trauma.

oh FFS!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Also, I am a foodie. New recipes and special meals are something that bring me pleasure.

Why take a drug that tamps down your enjoyment of a whole category of experiences?

Is this a real question? Because there are lots of health problems associated with obesity.

Equally, there are lots of health problems associated with being underweight. Both are a strain. I’m not convinced losing weight that quickly is healthy, either.

Nobody is saying people who are underweight should be on this medication. WTF?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Also, I am a foodie. New recipes and special meals are something that bring me pleasure.

Why take a drug that tamps down your enjoyment of a whole category of experiences?

Because for some of us, food and all it involves comes with a mental torture that far outweighs the enjoyment you experience. Cocaine addicts also enjoy the high, but it's not something you'd support, is it?

Addiction is addiction and food noise isn’t “normal”. Therapy helps in permanent ways miracle meds never will.

Wait, so if I just get therapy, the food noises that I’ve been battling for years will go away? Say more about that.

If you’re willing to be open and explore why you crave the dopamine hit you get from anticipating food (similar to a sex accident with sex, a gambler with gambling, a drug addict with drugs, a shopping addict with shopping…) then yes, it could potentially help you. I’m willing to bet you likely feel awful after giving in to these cravings, and like you have no control over them (like a sex addict with sex, gambler with gambling, drug addict from drugs, shopping addiction from shopping…) All addictions start with trauma.

OMG, the sanctimonious judgment is just oozing from this post. If I just had some therapy for the nonexistent trauma in my life (grew up in a healthy, stable home with parents who still love one another, in my own positive marriage raising two kids, again no trauma), then my food noises would go away! I just need some more WILLPOWER! I guess it has nothing to do with brain chemistry that is different for different people. Do you think this therapy would work on things like lowering cholesterol and blood pressure?

Taking GLP-1 has been a game changer for me. I still enjoy food, but I’m not thinking about it all the time. I can enjoy the taste and be satisfied. It’s a feeling I haven’t known in decades. I’m just much more relaxed. Yes, I attribute it to Ozempic.

There’s a lot of promise that GLP-1s can help with other addictions you mentioned. Again, it’s about brain chemistry, not just “being stronger.” Your judgment of people who are dealing with any kind of addiction is gross. Therapy is wonderful for so many people for so many reasons. To prescribe it as the truest way to deal with addiction denies the real science that acknowledges there is an actual physiological basis to some people being overweight and struggling to lose it.

It’s not a good look when you’re telling people that being overweight is unhealthy, but if you don’t work to lose the weight in the way that I think is best, then you’re also unhealthy and even worse, you’re just a damaged person because you don’t have the will power to manage this supposed trauma.

I can see you are very triggered by this.

But dopamine is brain chemistry, and I never, not once, mentions “being stronger”. But proper therapy can help you reconfigure your brain chemistry, and the connections you have that make you crave food.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Also, I am a foodie. New recipes and special meals are something that bring me pleasure.

Why take a drug that tamps down your enjoyment of a whole category of experiences?

Because for some of us, food and all it involves comes with a mental torture that far outweighs the enjoyment you experience. Cocaine addicts also enjoy the high, but it's not something you'd support, is it?

Addiction is addiction and food noise isn’t “normal”. Therapy helps in permanent ways miracle meds never will.

Wait, so if I just get therapy, the food noises that I’ve been battling for years will go away? Say more about that.

If you’re willing to be open and explore why you crave the dopamine hit you get from anticipating food (similar to a sex accident with sex, a gambler with gambling, a drug addict with drugs, a shopping addict with shopping…) then yes, it could potentially help you. I’m willing to bet you likely feel awful after giving in to these cravings, and like you have no control over them (like a sex addict with sex, gambler with gambling, drug addict from drugs, shopping addiction from shopping…) All addictions start with trauma.

OMG, the sanctimonious judgment is just oozing from this post. If I just had some therapy for the nonexistent trauma in my life (grew up in a healthy, stable home with parents who still love one another, in my own positive marriage raising two kids, again no trauma), then my food noises would go away! I just need some more WILLPOWER! I guess it has nothing to do with brain chemistry that is different for different people. Do you think this therapy would work on things like lowering cholesterol and blood pressure?

Taking GLP-1 has been a game changer for me. I still enjoy food, but I’m not thinking about it all the time. I can enjoy the taste and be satisfied. It’s a feeling I haven’t known in decades. I’m just much more relaxed. Yes, I attribute it to Ozempic.

There’s a lot of promise that GLP-1s can help with other addictions you mentioned. Again, it’s about brain chemistry, not just “being stronger.” Your judgment of people who are dealing with any kind of addiction is gross. Therapy is wonderful for so many people for so many reasons. To prescribe it as the truest way to deal with addiction denies the real science that acknowledges there is an actual physiological basis to some people being overweight and struggling to lose it.

It’s not a good look when you’re telling people that being overweight is unhealthy, but if you don’t work to lose the weight in the way that I think is best, then you’re also unhealthy and even worse, you’re just a damaged person because you don’t have the will power to manage this supposed trauma.

I can see you are very triggered by this.

But dopamine is brain chemistry, and I never, not once, mentions “being stronger”. But proper therapy can help you reconfigure your brain chemistry, and the connections you have that make you crave food.

I’m guessing you also think you can cure the gay out of someone?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Also, I am a foodie. New recipes and special meals are something that bring me pleasure.

Why take a drug that tamps down your enjoyment of a whole category of experiences?

Because for some of us, food and all it involves comes with a mental torture that far outweighs the enjoyment you experience. Cocaine addicts also enjoy the high, but it's not something you'd support, is it?

Addiction is addiction and food noise isn’t “normal”. Therapy helps in permanent ways miracle meds never will.

Wait, so if I just get therapy, the food noises that I’ve been battling for years will go away? Say more about that.

If you’re willing to be open and explore why you crave the dopamine hit you get from anticipating food (similar to a sex accident with sex, a gambler with gambling, a drug addict with drugs, a shopping addict with shopping…) then yes, it could potentially help you. I’m willing to bet you likely feel awful after giving in to these cravings, and like you have no control over them (like a sex addict with sex, gambler with gambling, drug addict from drugs, shopping addiction from shopping…) All addictions start with trauma.

OMG, the sanctimonious judgment is just oozing from this post. If I just had some therapy for the nonexistent trauma in my life (grew up in a healthy, stable home with parents who still love one another, in my own positive marriage raising two kids, again no trauma), then my food noises would go away! I just need some more WILLPOWER! I guess it has nothing to do with brain chemistry that is different for different people. Do you think this therapy would work on things like lowering cholesterol and blood pressure?

Taking GLP-1 has been a game changer for me. I still enjoy food, but I’m not thinking about it all the time. I can enjoy the taste and be satisfied. It’s a feeling I haven’t known in decades. I’m just much more relaxed. Yes, I attribute it to Ozempic.

There’s a lot of promise that GLP-1s can help with other addictions you mentioned. Again, it’s about brain chemistry, not just “being stronger.” Your judgment of people who are dealing with any kind of addiction is gross. Therapy is wonderful for so many people for so many reasons. To prescribe it as the truest way to deal with addiction denies the real science that acknowledges there is an actual physiological basis to some people being overweight and struggling to lose it.

It’s not a good look when you’re telling people that being overweight is unhealthy, but if you don’t work to lose the weight in the way that I think is best, then you’re also unhealthy and even worse, you’re just a damaged person because you don’t have the will power to manage this supposed trauma.

I can see you are very triggered by this.

But dopamine is brain chemistry, and I never, not once, mentions “being stronger”. But proper therapy can help you reconfigure your brain chemistry, and the connections you have that make you crave food.

I’m guessing you also think you can cure the gay out of someone?

Haha

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Also, I am a foodie. New recipes and special meals are something that bring me pleasure.

Why take a drug that tamps down your enjoyment of a whole category of experiences?

Because for some of us, food and all it involves comes with a mental torture that far outweighs the enjoyment you experience. Cocaine addicts also enjoy the high, but it's not something you'd support, is it?

Addiction is addiction and food noise isn’t “normal”. Therapy helps in permanent ways miracle meds never will.

Wait, so if I just get therapy, the food noises that I’ve been battling for years will go away? Say more about that.

If you’re willing to be open and explore why you crave the dopamine hit you get from anticipating food (similar to a sex accident with sex, a gambler with gambling, a drug addict with drugs, a shopping addict with shopping…) then yes, it could potentially help you. I’m willing to bet you likely feel awful after giving in to these cravings, and like you have no control over them (like a sex addict with sex, gambler with gambling, drug addict from drugs, shopping addiction from shopping…) All addictions start with trauma.

OMG, the sanctimonious judgment is just oozing from this post. If I just had some therapy for the nonexistent trauma in my life (grew up in a healthy, stable home with parents who still love one another, in my own positive marriage raising two kids, again no trauma), then my food noises would go away! I just need some more WILLPOWER! I guess it has nothing to do with brain chemistry that is different for different people. Do you think this therapy would work on things like lowering cholesterol and blood pressure?

Taking GLP-1 has been a game changer for me. I still enjoy food, but I’m not thinking about it all the time. I can enjoy the taste and be satisfied. It’s a feeling I haven’t known in decades. I’m just much more relaxed. Yes, I attribute it to Ozempic.

There’s a lot of promise that GLP-1s can help with other addictions you mentioned. Again, it’s about brain chemistry, not just “being stronger.” Your judgment of people who are dealing with any kind of addiction is gross. Therapy is wonderful for so many people for so many reasons. To prescribe it as the truest way to deal with addiction denies the real science that acknowledges there is an actual physiological basis to some people being overweight and struggling to lose it.

It’s not a good look when you’re telling people that being overweight is unhealthy, but if you don’t work to lose the weight in the way that I think is best, then you’re also unhealthy and even worse, you’re just a damaged person because you don’t have the will power to manage this supposed trauma.

I can see you are very triggered by this.

But dopamine is brain chemistry, and I never, not once, mentions “being stronger”. But proper therapy can help you reconfigure your brain chemistry, and the connections you have that make you crave food.

Oh, yes, I’m absolutely triggered by such foolishness. I truly hope you don’t spew this bs to anyone you know personally who is overweight or dealing with addiction. It’s so hurtful and dismissive.

But just in case you’re onto something, please quote these studies that cure obesity or addiction by changing the brain chemistry through therapy. I’m guessing no overweight person has done therapy. Maybe those that cannot get Wegovy should just get therapy instead.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Also, I am a foodie. New recipes and special meals are something that bring me pleasure.

Why take a drug that tamps down your enjoyment of a whole category of experiences?

Because for some of us, food and all it involves comes with a mental torture that far outweighs the enjoyment you experience. Cocaine addicts also enjoy the high, but it's not something you'd support, is it?

Addiction is addiction and food noise isn’t “normal”. Therapy helps in permanent ways miracle meds never will.

Wait, so if I just get therapy, the food noises that I’ve been battling for years will go away? Say more about that.

If you’re willing to be open and explore why you crave the dopamine hit you get from anticipating food (similar to a sex accident with sex, a gambler with gambling, a drug addict with drugs, a shopping addict with shopping…) then yes, it could potentially help you. I’m willing to bet you likely feel awful after giving in to these cravings, and like you have no control over them (like a sex addict with sex, gambler with gambling, drug addict from drugs, shopping addiction from shopping…) All addictions start with trauma.

OMG, the sanctimonious judgment is just oozing from this post. If I just had some therapy for the nonexistent trauma in my life (grew up in a healthy, stable home with parents who still love one another, in my own positive marriage raising two kids, again no trauma), then my food noises would go away! I just need some more WILLPOWER! I guess it has nothing to do with brain chemistry that is different for different people. Do you think this therapy would work on things like lowering cholesterol and blood pressure?

Taking GLP-1 has been a game changer for me. I still enjoy food, but I’m not thinking about it all the time. I can enjoy the taste and be satisfied. It’s a feeling I haven’t known in decades. I’m just much more relaxed. Yes, I attribute it to Ozempic.

There’s a lot of promise that GLP-1s can help with other addictions you mentioned. Again, it’s about brain chemistry, not just “being stronger.” Your judgment of people who are dealing with any kind of addiction is gross. Therapy is wonderful for so many people for so many reasons. To prescribe it as the truest way to deal with addiction denies the real science that acknowledges there is an actual physiological basis to some people being overweight and struggling to lose it.

It’s not a good look when you’re telling people that being overweight is unhealthy, but if you don’t work to lose the weight in the way that I think is best, then you’re also unhealthy and even worse, you’re just a damaged person because you don’t have the will power to manage this supposed trauma.

I can see you are very triggered by this.

But dopamine is brain chemistry, and I never, not once, mentions “being stronger”. But proper therapy can help you reconfigure your brain chemistry, and the connections you have that make you crave food.

Oh, yes, I’m absolutely triggered by such foolishness. I truly hope you don’t spew this bs to anyone you know personally who is overweight or dealing with addiction. It’s so hurtful and dismissive.

But just in case you’re onto something, please quote these studies that cure obesity or addiction by changing the brain chemistry through therapy. I’m guessing no overweight person has done therapy. Maybe those that cannot get Wegovy should just get therapy instead.

EMDR, to name one.

I am happy that Ozempic is working for you, I think that’s wonderful. But I wonder, what happens when you can no longer take it? Have you done the work, or just lost the weight?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Also, I am a foodie. New recipes and special meals are something that bring me pleasure.

Why take a drug that tamps down your enjoyment of a whole category of experiences?

Because for some of us, food and all it involves comes with a mental torture that far outweighs the enjoyment you experience. Cocaine addicts also enjoy the high, but it's not something you'd support, is it?

Addiction is addiction and food noise isn’t “normal”. Therapy helps in permanent ways miracle meds never will.

Wait, so if I just get therapy, the food noises that I’ve been battling for years will go away? Say more about that.

If you’re willing to be open and explore why you crave the dopamine hit you get from anticipating food (similar to a sex accident with sex, a gambler with gambling, a drug addict with drugs, a shopping addict with shopping…) then yes, it could potentially help you. I’m willing to bet you likely feel awful after giving in to these cravings, and like you have no control over them (like a sex addict with sex, gambler with gambling, drug addict from drugs, shopping addiction from shopping…) All addictions start with trauma.

OMG, the sanctimonious judgment is just oozing from this post. If I just had some therapy for the nonexistent trauma in my life (grew up in a healthy, stable home with parents who still love one another, in my own positive marriage raising two kids, again no trauma), then my food noises would go away! I just need some more WILLPOWER! I guess it has nothing to do with brain chemistry that is different for different people. Do you think this therapy would work on things like lowering cholesterol and blood pressure?

Taking GLP-1 has been a game changer for me. I still enjoy food, but I’m not thinking about it all the time. I can enjoy the taste and be satisfied. It’s a feeling I haven’t known in decades. I’m just much more relaxed. Yes, I attribute it to Ozempic.

There’s a lot of promise that GLP-1s can help with other addictions you mentioned. Again, it’s about brain chemistry, not just “being stronger.” Your judgment of people who are dealing with any kind of addiction is gross. Therapy is wonderful for so many people for so many reasons. To prescribe it as the truest way to deal with addiction denies the real science that acknowledges there is an actual physiological basis to some people being overweight and struggling to lose it.

It’s not a good look when you’re telling people that being overweight is unhealthy, but if you don’t work to lose the weight in the way that I think is best, then you’re also unhealthy and even worse, you’re just a damaged person because you don’t have the will power to manage this supposed trauma.

I can see you are very triggered by this.

But dopamine is brain chemistry, and I never, not once, mentions “being stronger”. But proper therapy can help you reconfigure your brain chemistry, and the connections you have that make you crave food.

Oh, yes, I’m absolutely triggered by such foolishness. I truly hope you don’t spew this bs to anyone you know personally who is overweight or dealing with addiction. It’s so hurtful and dismissive.

But just in case you’re onto something, please quote these studies that cure obesity or addiction by changing the brain chemistry through therapy. I’m guessing no overweight person has done therapy. Maybe those that cannot get Wegovy should just get therapy instead.

She’s not wrong, PP. Have you never watched a single episode of My 600lb Life or heard of Dr. Now?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Also, I am a foodie. New recipes and special meals are something that bring me pleasure.

Why take a drug that tamps down your enjoyment of a whole category of experiences?

Because for some of us, food and all it involves comes with a mental torture that far outweighs the enjoyment you experience. Cocaine addicts also enjoy the high, but it's not something you'd support, is it?

Addiction is addiction and food noise isn’t “normal”. Therapy helps in permanent ways miracle meds never will.

Would you tell someone with severe depression to skip the anti-depressant because therapy was enough? I agree with you that therapy is important when it comes to food addiction. But though the miracle of science, we have tools through medicine that can make our brains a hell of a lot more able to benefit from the therapy.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Also, I am a foodie. New recipes and special meals are something that bring me pleasure.

Why take a drug that tamps down your enjoyment of a whole category of experiences?

Because for some of us, food and all it involves comes with a mental torture that far outweighs the enjoyment you experience. Cocaine addicts also enjoy the high, but it's not something you'd support, is it?

Addiction is addiction and food noise isn’t “normal”. Therapy helps in permanent ways miracle meds never will.

Wait, so if I just get therapy, the food noises that I’ve been battling for years will go away? Say more about that.

If you’re willing to be open and explore why you crave the dopamine hit you get from anticipating food (similar to a sex accident with sex, a gambler with gambling, a drug addict with drugs, a shopping addict with shopping…) then yes, it could potentially help you. I’m willing to bet you likely feel awful after giving in to these cravings, and like you have no control over them (like a sex addict with sex, gambler with gambling, drug addict from drugs, shopping addiction from shopping…) All addictions start with trauma.

OMG, the sanctimonious judgment is just oozing from this post. If I just had some therapy for the nonexistent trauma in my life (grew up in a healthy, stable home with parents who still love one another, in my own positive marriage raising two kids, again no trauma), then my food noises would go away! I just need some more WILLPOWER! I guess it has nothing to do with brain chemistry that is different for different people. Do you think this therapy would work on things like lowering cholesterol and blood pressure?

Taking GLP-1 has been a game changer for me. I still enjoy food, but I’m not thinking about it all the time. I can enjoy the taste and be satisfied. It’s a feeling I haven’t known in decades. I’m just much more relaxed. Yes, I attribute it to Ozempic.

There’s a lot of promise that GLP-1s can help with other addictions you mentioned. Again, it’s about brain chemistry, not just “being stronger.” Your judgment of people who are dealing with any kind of addiction is gross. Therapy is wonderful for so many people for so many reasons. To prescribe it as the truest way to deal with addiction denies the real science that acknowledges there is an actual physiological basis to some people being overweight and struggling to lose it.

It’s not a good look when you’re telling people that being overweight is unhealthy, but if you don’t work to lose the weight in the way that I think is best, then you’re also unhealthy and even worse, you’re just a damaged person because you don’t have the will power to manage this supposed trauma.

I can see you are very triggered by this.

But dopamine is brain chemistry, and I never, not once, mentions “being stronger”. But proper therapy can help you reconfigure your brain chemistry, and the connections you have that make you crave food.

Oh, yes, I’m absolutely triggered by such foolishness. I truly hope you don’t spew this bs to anyone you know personally who is overweight or dealing with addiction. It’s so hurtful and dismissive.

But just in case you’re onto something, please quote these studies that cure obesity or addiction by changing the brain chemistry through therapy. I’m guessing no overweight person has done therapy. Maybe those that cannot get Wegovy should just get therapy instead.

She’s not wrong, PP. Have you never watched a single episode of My 600lb Life or heard of Dr. Now?

I don’t know what this post means.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Also, I am a foodie. New recipes and special meals are something that bring me pleasure.

Why take a drug that tamps down your enjoyment of a whole category of experiences?

Because for some of us, food and all it involves comes with a mental torture that far outweighs the enjoyment you experience. Cocaine addicts also enjoy the high, but it's not something you'd support, is it?

Addiction is addiction and food noise isn’t “normal”. Therapy helps in permanent ways miracle meds never will.

Wait, so if I just get therapy, the food noises that I’ve been battling for years will go away? Say more about that.

If you’re willing to be open and explore why you crave the dopamine hit you get from anticipating food (similar to a sex accident with sex, a gambler with gambling, a drug addict with drugs, a shopping addict with shopping…) then yes, it could potentially help you. I’m willing to bet you likely feel awful after giving in to these cravings, and like you have no control over them (like a sex addict with sex, gambler with gambling, drug addict from drugs, shopping addiction from shopping…) All addictions start with trauma.

OMG, the sanctimonious judgment is just oozing from this post. If I just had some therapy for the nonexistent trauma in my life (grew up in a healthy, stable home with parents who still love one another, in my own positive marriage raising two kids, again no trauma), then my food noises would go away! I just need some more WILLPOWER! I guess it has nothing to do with brain chemistry that is different for different people. Do you think this therapy would work on things like lowering cholesterol and blood pressure?

Taking GLP-1 has been a game changer for me. I still enjoy food, but I’m not thinking about it all the time. I can enjoy the taste and be satisfied. It’s a feeling I haven’t known in decades. I’m just much more relaxed. Yes, I attribute it to Ozempic.

There’s a lot of promise that GLP-1s can help with other addictions you mentioned. Again, it’s about brain chemistry, not just “being stronger.” Your judgment of people who are dealing with any kind of addiction is gross. Therapy is wonderful for so many people for so many reasons. To prescribe it as the truest way to deal with addiction denies the real science that acknowledges there is an actual physiological basis to some people being overweight and struggling to lose it.

It’s not a good look when you’re telling people that being overweight is unhealthy, but if you don’t work to lose the weight in the way that I think is best, then you’re also unhealthy and even worse, you’re just a damaged person because you don’t have the will power to manage this supposed trauma.

I can see you are very triggered by this.

But dopamine is brain chemistry, and I never, not once, mentions “being stronger”. But proper therapy can help you reconfigure your brain chemistry, and the connections you have that make you crave food.

Oh, yes, I’m absolutely triggered by such foolishness. I truly hope you don’t spew this bs to anyone you know personally who is overweight or dealing with addiction. It’s so hurtful and dismissive.

But just in case you’re onto something, please quote these studies that cure obesity or addiction by changing the brain chemistry through therapy. I’m guessing no overweight person has done therapy. Maybe those that cannot get Wegovy should just get therapy instead.

EMDR, to name one.

I am happy that Ozempic is working for you, I think that’s wonderful. But I wonder, what happens when you can no longer take it? Have you done the work, or just lost the weight?

What is “the work?”

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Also, I am a foodie. New recipes and special meals are something that bring me pleasure.

Why take a drug that tamps down your enjoyment of a whole category of experiences?

Because for some of us, food and all it involves comes with a mental torture that far outweighs the enjoyment you experience. Cocaine addicts also enjoy the high, but it's not something you'd support, is it?

I was just sharing my mental calculations, obviously yours are different.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Also, I am a foodie. New recipes and special meals are something that bring me pleasure.

Why take a drug that tamps down your enjoyment of a whole category of experiences?

I lost 40 lbs on ozempic and can still enjoy tasting menus and food, I just eat less of it. Even before Ozempic I was already finding that multi course menus made me too full and uncomfortable later. And the health benefits that come from losing weight far outweigh the downside of not being able to eat a huge meal.

OPs “friend” is probably on too high a dose or maybe not under a doctors supervision. Also after the first few months the weight loss slows down in any event.

Thank you for explaining your experience.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Also, I am a foodie. New recipes and special meals are something that bring me pleasure.

Why take a drug that tamps down your enjoyment of a whole category of experiences?

Because for some of us, food and all it involves comes with a mental torture that far outweighs the enjoyment you experience. Cocaine addicts also enjoy the high, but it's not something you'd support, is it?

Addiction is addiction and food noise isn’t “normal”. Therapy helps in permanent ways miracle meds never will.

I have heard this but don’t understand what “food noise” means.

Yes, I enjoy reviewing recipes, finding a unique gourmet ingredient, mastering a delicious meal. Is that “food noise?”