APS Middle School Boundary Process

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:They are going to move immersion to WMS first, but waiting till budget fiasco calms down

The maps moving immersion to wms were very disruptive, are you sure?

Pretty sure PP is making things up. Things they might like to be true, but aren’t (currently).

APS has never suggested that they are even considering moving immersion to Williamsburg. It's a proposal invented by a few parents who dont want to be rezoned from Hamm to Williamsburg, like that's some sort of giant imposition.

Moving Immersion is the cheapest option to not require any additional buses or drivers. APS has no money, so buying new buses is off the table.

APS concluded in the last round that it would take the fewest buses to move Hamm students to Williamsburg. That's why it was proposed. Those same students ultimately go to Yorktown anyways.

That analysis did not include the immersion to WMS option since they are already bused

I don't think you know what was considered but not selected unless you're one of the APS planning staff who was terminated.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:They are going to move immersion to WMS first, but waiting till budget fiasco calms down

The maps moving immersion to wms were very disruptive, are you sure?

Pretty sure PP is making things up. Things they might like to be true, but aren’t (currently).

APS has never suggested that they are even considering moving immersion to Williamsburg. It's a proposal invented by a few parents who dont want to be rezoned from Hamm to Williamsburg, like that's some sort of giant imposition.

Moving Immersion is the cheapest option to not require any additional buses or drivers. APS has no money, so buying new buses is off the table.

APS hasn't even considered the proposal to determine if it requires no new buses or drivers. That's just conjecture from parents. It's not on the table and never was.

Converting huge swaths of walk zones to busing WILL require more buses.

APS didn't think the number of additional buses needed was a problem or they wouldn't have made the proposal.

[Anonymous]

Before the last rezoning process was nuked APS had acknowledged they had messed up the assumptions regarding busses needed to move immersion to Kenmore. I don’t think they ever published a “fixed” version

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:They are going to move immersion to WMS first, but waiting till budget fiasco calms down

The maps moving immersion to wms were very disruptive, are you sure?

Pretty sure PP is making things up. Things they might like to be true, but aren’t (currently).

APS has never suggested that they are even considering moving immersion to Williamsburg. It's a proposal invented by a few parents who dont want to be rezoned from Hamm to Williamsburg, like that's some sort of giant imposition.

Moving Immersion is the cheapest option to not require any additional buses or drivers. APS has no money, so buying new buses is off the table.

APS hasn't even considered the proposal to determine if it requires no new buses or drivers. That's just conjecture from parents. It's not on the table and never was.

Converting huge swaths of walk zones to busing WILL require more buses.

APS didn't think the number of additional buses needed was a problem or they wouldn't have made the proposal.

They thought they had more money then.

[Anonymous]

Rezoning process starting up again this year, eyeing ES and MS.

[Anonymous]

Oh good that’ll be fun. Which schools are overcrowded?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They are going to move immersion to WMS first, but waiting till budget fiasco calms down

The maps moving immersion to wms were very disruptive, are you sure?

Pretty sure PP is making things up. Things they might like to be true, but aren’t (currently).

APS has never suggested that they are even considering moving immersion to Williamsburg. It's a proposal invented by a few parents who dont want to be rezoned from Hamm to Williamsburg, like that's some sort of giant imposition.

Moving Immersion is the cheapest option to not require any additional buses or drivers. APS has no money, so buying new buses is off the table.

APS hasn't even considered the proposal to determine if it requires no new buses or drivers. That's just conjecture from parents. It's not on the table and never was.

Converting huge swaths of walk zones to busing WILL require more buses.

APS didn't think the number of additional buses needed was a problem or they wouldn't have made the proposal.

They thought they had more money then.

That doesn't make sense. They always tried to minimize transportation costs. That's not a new factor.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They are going to move immersion to WMS first, but waiting till budget fiasco calms down

The maps moving immersion to wms were very disruptive, are you sure?

Pretty sure PP is making things up. Things they might like to be true, but aren’t (currently).

APS has never suggested that they are even considering moving immersion to Williamsburg. It's a proposal invented by a few parents who dont want to be rezoned from Hamm to Williamsburg, like that's some sort of giant imposition.

Moving Immersion is the cheapest option to not require any additional buses or drivers. APS has no money, so buying new buses is off the table.

APS hasn't even considered the proposal to determine if it requires no new buses or drivers. That's just conjecture from parents. It's not on the table and never was.

Converting huge swaths of walk zones to busing WILL require more buses.

APS didn't think the number of additional buses needed was a problem or they wouldn't have made the proposal.

They thought they had more money then.

That doesn't make sense. They always tried to minimize transportation costs. That's not a new factor.

There is minimize and the wallet is empty. Have you read the other thread!?

[Anonymous]

Sooo…. Is that a yes, this will be reconsidered in the not distant future, or a no?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Sooo…. Is that a yes, this will be reconsidered in the not distant future, or a no?

I don’t think anyone knows.

But there are several crazy people on here who will advocate for ANY change as long as their precious snowflake doesn’t have to be moved. So never believe the crazy on here.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They are going to move immersion to WMS first, but waiting till budget fiasco calms down

The maps moving immersion to wms were very disruptive, are you sure?

Pretty sure PP is making things up. Things they might like to be true, but aren’t (currently).

APS has never suggested that they are even considering moving immersion to Williamsburg. It's a proposal invented by a few parents who dont want to be rezoned from Hamm to Williamsburg, like that's some sort of giant imposition.

Yes this. Moving to WMS and having the HS program at Wakefield makes no sense.

The strongest advocates for this were Hamm parents freaking out about being moved to WMS. They are very vocal on every thread about immersion, like they can will this insane plan into existence.

I don’t think there’s any discussion of needing to move Immersion, as Gunston’s population went down after the started the address verification process.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They are going to move immersion to WMS first, but waiting till budget fiasco calms down

The maps moving immersion to wms were very disruptive, are you sure?

Pretty sure PP is making things up. Things they might like to be true, but aren’t (currently).

APS has never suggested that they are even considering moving immersion to Williamsburg. It's a proposal invented by a few parents who dont want to be rezoned from Hamm to Williamsburg, like that's some sort of giant imposition.

Yes this. Moving to WMS and having the HS program at Wakefield makes no sense.

The strongest advocates for this were Hamm parents freaking out about being moved to WMS. They are very vocal on every thread about immersion, like they can will this insane plan into existence.

I don’t think there’s any discussion of needing to move Immersion, as Gunston’s population went down after the started the address verification process.

If there is no need to move immersion there is no need for new boundaries as no school is overcrowded.

How does Immersion at WMS and WHS make any difference? They are bused from all over the county no matter what.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They are going to move immersion to WMS first, but waiting till budget fiasco calms down

The maps moving immersion to wms were very disruptive, are you sure?

Pretty sure PP is making things up. Things they might like to be true, but aren’t (currently).

APS has never suggested that they are even considering moving immersion to Williamsburg. It's a proposal invented by a few parents who dont want to be rezoned from Hamm to Williamsburg, like that's some sort of giant imposition.

Yes this. Moving to WMS and having the HS program at Wakefield makes no sense.

The strongest advocates for this were Hamm parents freaking out about being moved to WMS. They are very vocal on every thread about immersion, like they can will this insane plan into existence.

I don’t think there’s any discussion of needing to move Immersion, as Gunston’s population went down after the started the address verification process.

If there is no need to move immersion there is no need for new boundaries as no school is overcrowded.

How does Immersion at WMS and WHS make any difference? They are bused from all over the county no matter what.

As I recall, the planning department was let go due to the past boundary process that fizzled. I doubt anything new is on the horizon.

Boundaries are the third rail of policy making, and typically they only change when absolutely necessary. During Covid, APS backed out of planning for extensive high school boundary changes that would balanced the demographics of all three high schools.

Not saying they won’t happen, and they could, but APS would likely have to hire outside consultants to do the work now.

[Anonymous]

Get rid of immersion!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They are going to move immersion to WMS first, but waiting till budget fiasco calms down

The maps moving immersion to wms were very disruptive, are you sure?

Pretty sure PP is making things up. Things they might like to be true, but aren’t (currently).

APS has never suggested that they are even considering moving immersion to Williamsburg. It's a proposal invented by a few parents who dont want to be rezoned from Hamm to Williamsburg, like that's some sort of giant imposition.

Yes this. Moving to WMS and having the HS program at Wakefield makes no sense.

The strongest advocates for this were Hamm parents freaking out about being moved to WMS. They are very vocal on every thread about immersion, like they can will this insane plan into existence.

I don’t think there’s any discussion of needing to move Immersion, as Gunston’s population went down after the started the address verification process.

If there is no need to move immersion there is no need for new boundaries as no school is overcrowded.

How does Immersion at WMS and WHS make any difference? They are bused from all over the county no matter what.

As I recall, the planning department was let go due to the past boundary process that fizzled. I doubt anything new is on the horizon.

Boundaries are the third rail of policy making, and typically they only change when absolutely necessary. During Covid, APS backed out of planning for extensive high school boundary changes that would balanced the demographics of all three high schools.

Not saying they won’t happen, and they could, but APS would likely have to hire outside consultants to do the work now.

The former Planning team's musical chairs with the elementary schools a few years back was a disaster. Way more complicated - and expensive - than it needed to be. Instead of simply moving Key to the new Cardinal ES (one and done), the planning team aggressively pushed to disrupt three elementary schools - Key to ATS, ATS to McKinley, McKinley to Reed (now Cardinal), creating unnecessary community agitation and exposing the supine Board to political backlash.
I'm not surprised that the Board and Supt Duran don't want to tackle boundary changes anytime soon after that.