eye cream/serum and milia

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am OP and my dermatologist even admits they are really hard to get rid of - she lasered a large one (as part of other facial lasering) and it never fully went away. I’ve tried so many things and it doesn’t get rid of the milia (I clean my lids with occusoft in the morning and evening, I don’t rub my eyes, I carefully, carefully apply trentinoin under my eyes).

So now I am just hoping to find an eye cream that doesn’t cause new ones.

Get a new dermatologist. Lasering them is pretty dumb…they aren’t on the surface but they do pop right out if given a channel and some help. I’ve removed dozens over the years.

This! I can’t believe she lasered them! The are easily removed with a tiny needle, not a laser.

One- I said she zapped one milia while zapping other stuff on my face, and it was a particularly large one under the eye near the nose. I have many of them under my eyes, on my upper lids, in the lash lines - there is no way that I would hit these individually with a needle.

Those of you with an occasional milia that you can pop with a needle don’t have a real problem with milia. Some of us are very prone to them. I have so many that I’m now focused mainly on not getting more, why I am being particular about eye cream (eg, kiehls avo eye cream recommended on the other thread has always caused milia on me).

- OP

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am OP and my dermatologist even admits they are really hard to get rid of - she lasered a large one (as part of other facial lasering) and it never fully went away. I’ve tried so many things and it doesn’t get rid of the milia (I clean my lids with occusoft in the morning and evening, I don’t rub my eyes, I carefully, carefully apply trentinoin under my eyes).

So now I am just hoping to find an eye cream that doesn’t cause new ones.

Get a new dermatologist. Lasering them is pretty dumb…they aren’t on the surface but they do pop right out if given a channel and some help. I’ve removed dozens over the years.

This! I can’t believe she lasered them! The are easily removed with a tiny needle, not a laser.

Not op but how do you get the tiny needle, assuming it's the medical kind?
Or are you talking about any small needle that you disinfect with alcohol?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I use this for puffiness and find it works really well: https://www.theinkeylist.com/products/caffeine-eye-cream

I can't comment on milia because it's not an issue for me, but the formula is pretty lightweight and not as emollient as other eye treatments.

They why would you comment?? Annoying.

[Anonymous]

Milia are sebum plugs trapped underneath your skin. You need to do more exfoliation to encourage that top layer to slough off so the sebum can move up and out.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am OP and my dermatologist even admits they are really hard to get rid of - she lasered a large one (as part of other facial lasering) and it never fully went away. I’ve tried so many things and it doesn’t get rid of the milia (I clean my lids with occusoft in the morning and evening, I don’t rub my eyes, I carefully, carefully apply trentinoin under my eyes).

So now I am just hoping to find an eye cream that doesn’t cause new ones.

Get a new dermatologist. Lasering them is pretty dumb…they aren’t on the surface but they do pop right out if given a channel and some help. I’ve removed dozens over the years.

This! I can’t believe she lasered them! The are easily removed with a tiny needle, not a laser.

Not op but how do you get the tiny needle, assuming it's the medical kind?
Or are you talking about any small needle that you disinfect with alcohol?

NP:

Diabetic lancets are PERFECT for this task.

https://www.amazon.com/CareLiving-Lancets-Diabetes-Testing-Colourful/dp/B0CQR4DF8B/ref=sr_1_4_sspa?crid=1I6870K6P1IBX&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.LB2X4zqAe66y7S6b-puUP-Bn4D8kjshc3rTFUMwhy3ALv8aepHgVnh1EEoLog_hR1lN6fbisE4x3NH5aFcrTOTLovVbEbLXSt9e3LFDyss5NSIv5-sIkmqoJCZ3k1VyQlWf240g2DLQEvLyrI7HUJ40O3qyHCv12ODtqxCLfE1MnEgDOX0Q8RBjMlTA2EyYir7X2oJUfbimHVDnFfChTe5kAc0UBe_NUiZ0CqkuJHc72I7vF-wZ5lOGuMjRmRL08XJ-YiMIR4g3UKNDXf_0sE9cbnEqE2_eqjJh20Y5hggU.1gz3PIB2x66eUvZwomeqEkT5WdAr4ShBKsU0nEo6UnE&dib_tag=se&keywords=diabetic%2Blancets&qid=1741272701&sprefix=diabetic%2Blancets%2Caps%2C134&sr=8-4-spons&sp_csd=d2lkZ2V0TmFtZT1zcF9hdGY&th=1

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Milia are sebum plugs trapped underneath your skin. You need to do more exfoliation to encourage that top layer to slough off so the sebum can move up and out.

What exfoliation treatments or products (at home) do you reccomend?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Milia are sebum plugs trapped underneath your skin. You need to do more exfoliation to encourage that top layer to slough off so the sebum can move up and out.

They are not sebum, they are keratin.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am OP and my dermatologist even admits they are really hard to get rid of - she lasered a large one (as part of other facial lasering) and it never fully went away. I’ve tried so many things and it doesn’t get rid of the milia (I clean my lids with occusoft in the morning and evening, I don’t rub my eyes, I carefully, carefully apply trentinoin under my eyes).

So now I am just hoping to find an eye cream that doesn’t cause new ones.

Get a new dermatologist. Lasering them is pretty dumb…they aren’t on the surface but they do pop right out if given a channel and some help. I’ve removed dozens over the years.

This! I can’t believe she lasered them! The are easily removed with a tiny needle, not a laser.

Not op but how do you get the tiny needle, assuming it's the medical kind?
Or are you talking about any small needle that you disinfect with alcohol?

You can buy sterile needles at CVS, etc. I get that from Santa Cruz Animal Health by the 100 because I have a farm.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am OP and my dermatologist even admits they are really hard to get rid of - she lasered a large one (as part of other facial lasering) and it never fully went away. I’ve tried so many things and it doesn’t get rid of the milia (I clean my lids with occusoft in the morning and evening, I don’t rub my eyes, I carefully, carefully apply trentinoin under my eyes).

So now I am just hoping to find an eye cream that doesn’t cause new ones.

Get a new dermatologist. Lasering them is pretty dumb…they aren’t on the surface but they do pop right out if given a channel and some help. I’ve removed dozens over the years.

This! I can’t believe she lasered them! The are easily removed with a tiny needle, not a laser.

One- I said she zapped one milia while zapping other stuff on my face, and it was a particularly large one under the eye near the nose. I have many of them under my eyes, on my upper lids, in the lash lines - there is no way that I would hit these individually with a needle.

Those of you with an occasional milia that you can pop with a needle don’t have a real problem with milia. Some of us are very prone to them. I have so many that I’m now focused mainly on not getting more, why I am being particular about eye cream (eg, kiehls avo eye cream recommended on the other thread has always caused milia on me).

- OP

I have addressed them in my lash lines, etc. Just because you wouldn't doesn't mean it isn't relevant or a good solution. Have a pro do it then.

I have them often, and the only reason I don't have dozens is that I remove them soon after they form. I have two now I am going to address when I get a few minutes and feel like it.

Address your problems and then you won't have so many.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am OP and my dermatologist even admits they are really hard to get rid of - she lasered a large one (as part of other facial lasering) and it never fully went away. I’ve tried so many things and it doesn’t get rid of the milia (I clean my lids with occusoft in the morning and evening, I don’t rub my eyes, I carefully, carefully apply trentinoin under my eyes).

So now I am just hoping to find an eye cream that doesn’t cause new ones.

Get a new dermatologist. Lasering them is pretty dumb…they aren’t on the surface but they do pop right out if given a channel and some help. I’ve removed dozens over the years.

This! I can’t believe she lasered them! The are easily removed with a tiny needle, not a laser.

One- I said she zapped one milia while zapping other stuff on my face, and it was a particularly large one under the eye near the nose. I have many of them under my eyes, on my upper lids, in the lash lines - there is no way that I would hit these individually with a needle.

Those of you with an occasional milia that you can pop with a needle don’t have a real problem with milia. Some of us are very prone to them. I have so many that I’m now focused mainly on not getting more, why I am being particular about eye cream (eg, kiehls avo eye cream recommended on the other thread has always caused milia on me).

- OP

I have addressed them in my lash lines, etc. Just because you wouldn't doesn't mean it isn't relevant or a good solution. Have a pro do it then.

I have them often, and the only reason I don't have dozens is that I remove them soon after they form. I have two now I am going to address when I get a few minutes and feel like it.

Address your problems and then you won't have so many.

DP - I am really sensitive about getting stuff near my eyes and I’m also petty wary of putting a needle on my lash line like that! PP I think you are brave to do it (and must have much steadier hands than me).
I use exfoliating products on the ones further from the eyes, but can’t do it by the water line since it migrates in and burns my eyes. Sigh

[Anonymous]

I don’t think any medical professional would endorse one at home sticking a needle into their lashline.

[Anonymous]

OP here. I carefully use trentinoin (an exfoliant) under my eyes where a lot of my milia are. It hasn’t reduced any, unfortunately. I have what is commonly called “chicken skin” under my eyes- lots of milia (chicken skin can be caused by other conditions, but my derm says these are milia).

[Anonymous]

I get milia occasionally, but it sounds like not as bad as OP. I've used this:
https://www.amazon.com/LOreal-Paris-Anti-Aging-Antioxidants-Dermatologist/dp/B098QZL96Z?source=ps-sl-shoppingads-lpcontext&ref_=fplfs&psc=1&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER&gPromoCode=sns_us_en_5_2023Q4&gQT=1
I've also used this:
https://editorspick.com/products/strivectin-intensive-eye-concentrate-plus-ep-13482000?currency=USD&variant=39672713543840&utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=Google%20Shopping&stkn=dbb3329907af&gad_source=1&gclid=CjwKCAiArKW-BhAzEiwAZhWsIAaf-eka28-wrWQm4dhCvS5uUDnVN5Qe9KKhBxxFnre47axyU4nHChoCawUQAvD_BwE

Occasionally when I try something new, I do get the milia. It seems like expensive creams cause it more!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I don’t think any medical professional would endorse one at home sticking a needle into their lashline.

Of course not, they would much prefer to charge you several hundred dollars to do exactly the same thing. Plus, no one is going to direct people to do this because they can't be sure you understand sterile practices.

It's a free country, though. I am more than capable of doing this myself safely, and I do.