Advice on how to handle this situation

[Anonymous]

My AAP kid used to have the same problem with problem kids in 1st to 2nd grade. Some kids learnt that they can misbehave with sub teacher and suffers no consequences. Some kids just lack self-control. My kid came home and complain. Now he's in AAP and he said the class is so quiet and they could focus on learning.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:DC is bright and advanced in reading and math (99th percentiles on I-Readys, CogAT 132). Recently his teacher finds him less self-regulated (went from a 4 to a 3). I've noticed a decrease in the quality of his work over the last several weeks. Careless mistakes and omissions, and messy writing (he's capable of better). He tells me he has trouble focusing because he's sitting near some of the worst behaved children in the class. He asked if he could be moved and his teacher said she'd think about it.
I also made the same request and I'm waiting to hear back.

I don't think he's conscientious by nature, but he definitely has the ability to muster it under some circumstances. Unfortunately, the classroom is a zoo and this is not bringing out his best work or behavior.

I parent referred for AAP but am not optimistic he'll get in due to not being in pool at our mid-to-high SES school and some omissions from the packet (no mention of reading I-Ready or LII placement for LA, or any mark for exceptional talent on that front). I feel very frustrated and am not entirely sure what to do.

I would email the principal and the AART about the omissions on the packet form. I would call the AAP office and ask what to do with about the missing info on the profile page. This happened to our child there were 3 errors on that page that I didn’t notice until it was time for the appeal. It was too late for a new profile page but the school acknowledged the errors corrected things in the system because they were not updated and that’s why the page didn’t have the right information. I had to add an extra sheet explaining the errors and had to submit the form showing he was level II in all subjects. Anyway you should get the missing information corrected

[Anonymous]

You should not have your packet yet, AARTs are not supposed to give those to parents until after the committee sits, although I know some give it after they have been sent to the Committee. It cold be that not all the information has been collected yet because packets are not done.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:You should not have your packet yet, AARTs are not supposed to give those to parents until after the committee sits, although I know some give it after they have been sent to the Committee. It cold be that not all the information has been collected yet because packets are not done.

Where did you get this information? Our school makes it clear you can request the packet after it has been submitted. From the school: “Parents may request a copy of the portfolio that was submitted after they have been turned in for central selection”. I know this to be true for other schools as well.

At this point I don’t see how packets “are not done”.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:
I parent referred for AAP but am not optimistic he'll get in due to not being in pool at our mid-to-high SES school and some omissions from the packet (no mention of reading I-Ready or LII placement for LA, or any mark for exceptional talent on that front). I feel very frustrated and am not entirely sure what to do.

I made sure I mentioned DS's achievements (Iready, Level II etc) on parent questionnaire and cover page. It's just double insurance. If the packet was already submitted, there is nothing you can do except appeal if he's not accepted. I guess you'd have additional evidence in omission to support your appeal.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My AAP kid used to have the same problem with problem kids in 1st to 2nd grade. Some kids learnt that they can misbehave with sub teacher and suffers no consequences. Some kids just lack self-control. My kid came home and complain. Now he's in AAP and he said the class is so quiet and they could focus on learning.

OP here. This is my dream for my kid. I've seen him in better environments. I've been in his classroom and I see the kids have learned they can misbehave even with the regular teacher.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:You should not have your packet yet, AARTs are not supposed to give those to parents until after the committee sits, although I know some give it after they have been sent to the Committee. It cold be that not all the information has been collected yet because packets are not done.

OP here. My understanding is that they have been submitted and that's why they are ok with sharing them now. The file she sent had the word 'completed' in the name.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:
I parent referred for AAP but am not optimistic he'll get in due to not being in pool at our mid-to-high SES school and some omissions from the packet (no mention of reading I-Ready or LII placement for LA, or any mark for exceptional talent on that front). I feel very frustrated and am not entirely sure what to do.

I made sure I mentioned DS's achievements (Iready, Level II etc) on parent questionnaire and cover page. It's just double insurance. If the packet was already submitted, there is nothing you can do except appeal if he's not accepted. I guess you'd have additional evidence in omission to support your appeal.

I wish I'd thought of this! But yes, I will add omitted info in the appeal.

To the other poster who said we should contact the principal or the AART, I don't want to be "that parent" because I feel it could do more harm than good, however I did inquire to the AART asking why 'reading' and 'writing' weren't checked off on the HOPE even though he received a 560 on his grade 1 Spring I-Ready (99th) and has LII services for LA. The AART previously mentioned that this I-Ready was not included because (inexplicably) they only include I-Readys from Fall of first grade. But that doesn't mean this information should not be used to make determinations in the HOPE. I don't have high hopes for a helpful response but I couldn't just not say anything. Sigh...

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:
I parent referred for AAP but am not optimistic he'll get in due to not being in pool at our mid-to-high SES school and some omissions from the packet (no mention of reading I-Ready or LII placement for LA, or any mark for exceptional talent on that front). I feel very frustrated and am not entirely sure what to do.

I made sure I mentioned DS's achievements (Iready, Level II etc) on parent questionnaire and cover page. It's just double insurance. If the packet was already submitted, there is nothing you can do except appeal if he's not accepted. I guess you'd have additional evidence in omission to support your appeal.

I wish I'd thought of this! But yes, I will add omitted info in the appeal.

To the other poster who said we should contact the principal or the AART, I don't want to be "that parent" because I feel it could do more harm than good, however I did inquire to the AART asking why 'reading' and 'writing' weren't checked off on the HOPE even though he received a 560 on his grade 1 Spring I-Ready (99th) and has LII services for LA. The AART previously mentioned that this I-Ready was not included because (inexplicably) they only include I-Readys from Fall of first grade. But that doesn't mean this information should not be used to make determinations in the HOPE. I don't have high hopes for a helpful response but I couldn't just not say anything. Sigh...

At the very least, you'll have a lot of good information to include in the appeal, if he is not accepted. It would be hard for them to argue with a 99 percentile score on the iReady.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:
I parent referred for AAP but am not optimistic he'll get in due to not being in pool at our mid-to-high SES school and some omissions from the packet (no mention of reading I-Ready or LII placement for LA, or any mark for exceptional talent on that front). I feel very frustrated and am not entirely sure what to do.

I made sure I mentioned DS's achievements (Iready, Level II etc) on parent questionnaire and cover page. It's just double insurance. If the packet was already submitted, there is nothing you can do except appeal if he's not accepted. I guess you'd have additional evidence in omission to support your appeal.

I wish I'd thought of this! But yes, I will add omitted info in the appeal.

To the other poster who said we should contact the principal or the AART, I don't want to be "that parent" because I feel it could do more harm than good, however I did inquire to the AART asking why 'reading' and 'writing' weren't checked off on the HOPE even though he received a 560 on his grade 1 Spring I-Ready (99th) and has LII services for LA. The AART previously mentioned that this I-Ready was not included because (inexplicably) they only include I-Readys from Fall of first grade. But that doesn't mean this information should not be used to make determinations in the HOPE. I don't have high hopes for a helpful response but I couldn't just not say anything. Sigh...

PP here, I learnt the trick from writing personal essay for college admission back in the day. My parents sent my personal essay draft to a lawyer family friend to review. His feedback is I talked about myself, but didn't talk enough about my achievement, therefore it's not a persuasive presentation. Admission officer only had 10 min at most to review one applicant's file. Make sure to highlight the good things in your application EVERYWHERE in your packet, AAP or College application.

Anyway, coming off my soap box now.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:
I parent referred for AAP but am not optimistic he'll get in due to not being in pool at our mid-to-high SES school and some omissions from the packet (no mention of reading I-Ready or LII placement for LA, or any mark for exceptional talent on that front). I feel very frustrated and am not entirely sure what to do.

I made sure I mentioned DS's achievements (Iready, Level II etc) on parent questionnaire and cover page. It's just double insurance. If the packet was already submitted, there is nothing you can do except appeal if he's not accepted. I guess you'd have additional evidence in omission to support your appeal.

I wish I'd thought of this! But yes, I will add omitted info in the appeal.

To the other poster who said we should contact the principal or the AART, I don't want to be "that parent" because I feel it could do more harm than good, however I did inquire to the AART asking why 'reading' and 'writing' weren't checked off on the HOPE even though he received a 560 on his grade 1 Spring I-Ready (99th) and has LII services for LA. The AART previously mentioned that this I-Ready was not included because (inexplicably) they only include I-Readys from Fall of first grade. But that doesn't mean this information should not be used to make determinations in the HOPE. I don't have high hopes for a helpful response but I couldn't just not say anything. Sigh...

At the very least, you'll have a lot of good information to include in the appeal, if he is not accepted. It would be hard for them to argue with a 99 percentile score on the iReady.

Would it though? I thought at some schools everyone is in the 99th percentile...

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:
I parent referred for AAP but am not optimistic he'll get in due to not being in pool at our mid-to-high SES school and some omissions from the packet (no mention of reading I-Ready or LII placement for LA, or any mark for exceptional talent on that front). I feel very frustrated and am not entirely sure what to do.

I made sure I mentioned DS's achievements (Iready, Level II etc) on parent questionnaire and cover page. It's just double insurance. If the packet was already submitted, there is nothing you can do except appeal if he's not accepted. I guess you'd have additional evidence in omission to support your appeal.

I wish I'd thought of this! But yes, I will add omitted info in the appeal.

To the other poster who said we should contact the principal or the AART, I don't want to be "that parent" because I feel it could do more harm than good, however I did inquire to the AART asking why 'reading' and 'writing' weren't checked off on the HOPE even though he received a 560 on his grade 1 Spring I-Ready (99th) and has LII services for LA. The AART previously mentioned that this I-Ready was not included because (inexplicably) they only include I-Readys from Fall of first grade. But that doesn't mean this information should not be used to make determinations in the HOPE. I don't have high hopes for a helpful response but I couldn't just not say anything. Sigh...

PP here, I learnt the trick from writing personal essay for college admission back in the day. My parents sent my personal essay draft to a lawyer family friend to review. His feedback is I talked about myself, but didn't talk enough about my achievement, therefore it's not a persuasive presentation. Admission officer only had 10 min at most to review one applicant's file. Make sure to highlight the good things in your application EVERYWHERE in your packet, AAP or College application.

Anyway, coming off my soap box now.

Thanks, this is very helpful.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
I parent referred for AAP but am not optimistic he'll get in due to not being in pool at our mid-to-high SES school and some omissions from the packet (no mention of reading I-Ready or LII placement for LA, or any mark for exceptional talent on that front). I feel very frustrated and am not entirely sure what to do.

I made sure I mentioned DS's achievements (Iready, Level II etc) on parent questionnaire and cover page. It's just double insurance. If the packet was already submitted, there is nothing you can do except appeal if he's not accepted. I guess you'd have additional evidence in omission to support your appeal.

I wish I'd thought of this! But yes, I will add omitted info in the appeal.

To the other poster who said we should contact the principal or the AART, I don't want to be "that parent" because I feel it could do more harm than good, however I did inquire to the AART asking why 'reading' and 'writing' weren't checked off on the HOPE even though he received a 560 on his grade 1 Spring I-Ready (99th) and has LII services for LA. The AART previously mentioned that this I-Ready was not included because (inexplicably) they only include I-Readys from Fall of first grade. But that doesn't mean this information should not be used to make determinations in the HOPE. I don't have high hopes for a helpful response but I couldn't just not say anything. Sigh...

Don’t be “that parent “ then. You also can’t make them check off that they feel your child is above their peers on the Hope form especially when they are not in pool and their peers are scoring above or similar to them. But the areas that were fact and missed should be acknowledged like listing level II on the form. This may not matter at all and your child may be accepted first round.

[Anonymous]

This is the time of year that parents are receiving private admissions decisions. I would start googling and thinking about private options just in case

[Anonymous]

FWIW, my kid is in AAP at a center school and the classroom is full of very wild (but very smart) boys with ADHD. Recently volunteered in the classroom and my heart goes out to the teacher, who is fantastic but not a miracle worker.

Also, 132 is a good score. It's really hard for a 2nd grader to not be distracted by a disruptive environment. I got my kid a tutor last year because the classroom was so out of control. It made a huge difference.