Does the parent part of the AAP packet count for anything?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The study that someone posted in other thread that is being used for future aap planning recommends eliminating parent involvement- so anything now more than sounds like will be in future when FCPS rolls out next changes. Starts with “P” for name of phd who is one of authors- not being cryptic here, just can’t remember name.

They can't eliminate parent involvement unless the law changes, I think? I guess they can eliminate the parent part of the packet, but they can't eliminate parent referral.

[Anonymous]

When I was a kid in a different state, I don’t think parents were involved. Kids were flagged gifted by the school. Kids were placed in the advanced class, regular class or remedial class in elementary. You knew which class you were in. Then in middle school, we got to pick our classes. You could pick honors or not honors and were placed in a math class based on a test.

[Anonymous]

2 years ago - was GMDS instead of HOPE, but our GMDS and school samples were underwhelming, and borderline-high test scores (136 on both) in a med-high SES school. Was NOT in pool. I assumed we got in based on home samples and write-up, but who knows... I guess it depends on the 6 people looking at your packet.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:2 years ago - was GMDS instead of HOPE, but our GMDS and school samples were underwhelming, and borderline-high test scores (136 on both) in a med-high SES school. Was NOT in pool. I assumed we got in based on home samples and write-up, but who knows... I guess it depends on the 6 people looking at your packet.

I’m assuming you mean GBRS?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:When I was a kid in a different state, I don’t think parents were involved. Kids were flagged gifted by the school. Kids were placed in the advanced class, regular class or remedial class in elementary. You knew which class you were in. Then in middle school, we got to pick our classes. You could pick honors or not honors and were placed in a math class based on a test.

The code of Virginia states:

C. These uniform procedures shall permit referrals from parents or legal guardians, teachers, professionals, students, peers, self, or others. Such referrals shall be accepted for kindergarten through twelfth-grade students.

(https://law.lis.virginia.gov/admincode/title8/agency20/chapter40/section40/)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:When I was a kid in a different state, I don’t think parents were involved. Kids were flagged gifted by the school. Kids were placed in the advanced class, regular class or remedial class in elementary. You knew which class you were in. Then in middle school, we got to pick our classes. You could pick honors or not honors and were placed in a math class based on a test.

The code of Virginia states:

C. These uniform procedures shall permit referrals from parents or legal guardians, teachers, professionals, students, peers, self, or others. Such referrals shall be accepted for kindergarten through twelfth-grade students.

(https://law.lis.virginia.gov/admincode/title8/agency20/chapter40/section40/)

They may accept parent referrals but this doesn't mean they will accept parent information.

It looks like they want to minimize parent involvement under the pretext of (privileged) parents introducing bias but really they would like to have full control over who is admitted in order to further their DEI agenda.

If you read the recommendations in the report that was linked earlier this is exactly how it comes across and makes me very concerned.

[Anonymous]

Parent referral are not just work samples, there are spaces for parent to describe their children in the cover letter and questionnaires. They can talk about the child's capacity for focus, curiosity and intelligence. I know people say it can not be verified but I I am thinking reviewing teacher can see through the puffery.

For example I said my child has focus when he starts a new board game and would keep playing it for days until he figured out all the rules and tricks. It's not genius level but at least it showed another aspect of the child that no test score and work sample can provide.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Parent referral are not just work samples, there are spaces for parent to describe their children in the cover letter and questionnaires. They can talk about the child's capacity for focus, curiosity and intelligence. I know people say it can not be verified but I I am thinking reviewing teacher can see through the puffery.

For example I said my child has focus when he starts a new board game and would keep playing it for days until he figured out all the rules and tricks. It's not genius level but at least it showed another aspect of the child that no test score and work sample can provide.

I agree with this, but the concern is that if the powers that be want to get rid of it or simply disregard it in the name of equity, they will, and your insights will not be take seriously.

I put as many examples as I could fit in because I wasn't exactly sure what they were after. I'm sure there are some good nuggets in there that suggest my child would thrive in the AAP environment. However, what I'm not sure of is whether they will care at all.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Parent referral are not just work samples, there are spaces for parent to describe their children in the cover letter and questionnaires. They can talk about the child's capacity for focus, curiosity and intelligence. I know people say it can not be verified but I I am thinking reviewing teacher can see through the puffery.

For example I said my child has focus when he starts a new board game and would keep playing it for days until he figured out all the rules and tricks. It's not genius level but at least it showed another aspect of the child that no test score and work sample can provide.

I agree with this, but the concern is that if the powers that be want to get rid of it or simply disregard it in the name of equity, they will, and your insights will not be take seriously.

I put as many examples as I could fit in because I wasn't exactly sure what they were after. I'm sure there are some good nuggets in there that suggest my child would thrive in the AAP environment. However, what I'm not sure of is whether they will care at all.

They've had that report since 2020. I know someone just posted it again so everyone's in a tizzy, but they've had years to implement things and all they've done is local norms and E3.